CalS

1 hour ago, eric99 said:

But how did you generate the PDFs from your notes? Do these PDFs include working links to attachments?

The only thing she had in her Evernote were recipes (tended by me). 

1. For notes that were a PDF I did Save Attachments.
2. For those notes that weren't PDFs I printed to PDF. 
3. No need for links, each note was a recipe.  If you have attachments HTML export is the way to go.

Ended up with 1551 PDFs in a single folder.  Works the same for her, Legacy or new folder - click an icon and enter whatever in the search bar.  Search works on title and contents.

Don't know that I would include spouse or heirs in the consideration for "note tanking" app selection.  I would consider dropping whatever into an indexed folder structure,  creating a shortcut on the desktop, and explain the search field.  For the more tech savvy family send a link for their use plus share your device credentials. 

Based on my family universe anyway.  No way my spouse would crack EN usage, old or new.  She did have recipes in Legacy, but V10 was a bridge too far, she just didn't want to invest the time.  So I dumped 1500 PDFs to an indexed folder and created a shortcut.  It works.  And lets me live on the wild side.  🤣  YMMV. 

@PinkElephant missed that, thanks. 
 

@gazumped trash is empty.  
 

Apologies around.  Only excuse I have is the upgrade message highlighted the 50 in large red font. 

13 hours ago, ferol said:

My biggest problem is:

...slow and very bad search... Same problems eith search have my coleuges..

And it's been that way from start with V10 with delayed update as well.  Definitely a use case thing.  If one does a lot of editing and moving the lag can be painful.

Insult to injury, I kept a free account with no notes (deleted everything from a previous test account) so as to be able to come back and check on things.  Just opened EN on my iPhone today and I have hit my 50 note limit, even though there are 0 notes and empty trash.  Though I was offered a 50% discount on personal.

No biggie, not using it anyway.  Just weird, just seems these would be simple things to work through as a company.

56 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

I also use the OS screen grab but I do miss the old Evernote option to easily either direct the clip to a note or to the clipboard.  

Use case thing.  I have been using Awesome Screenshot to annotate clips for a long while, never did use the EN V6 equivalent.  Stand alone clips become notes (or files in my new process) and other clips get pasted.  So pretty much all clipboard usage.

On 4/20/2024 at 12:45 PM, KRLee52 said:

I would prefer not replying with noting that I could use another program to screengrab, then create a note and paste it in to the note, I am aware of that. I also note that the new and improved version often helpfully just shows a link as opposed to the actual picture which I find much less friendly, to be polite.

A benefit of using the native Windows screen grab (Shift+Win+S) is that the result is copied to the clipboard and can be pasted where you like.  Though you do have to also select new note if that is the destination.  FWIW.

Ugh.  Could try type in all but last letter, hit space, enter last letter, remove the space.  Sometimes works with smart systems.

2 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Hmm ... "bug" is hard to define precisely, or at least harder than it seems like it should be. "It works fine for me" in a different use case suggests that this is not a bug, but a different way of using the software (which doesn't work like it used to, and there we are again). "It works fine for me" on a different OS or hardware points more toward a genuine bug and a need for testing in more environments.

Which makes it a BS decision in whatever their triage process may be. 

Works fine for me in a different use case kinda is the point.  It's not the same.  And it really doesn't help without follow on pointed questions to ascertain the differences.  One voice in the wilderness.

It might also be good to recognize openly that bugs do exist in some use cases, sans excuses for BS.  There are folks who have made the transition to V10 reporting legitimate issues. Too often the response is "it works fine or me", which doesn't help if the use case is different.  Let BS represent themselves re how they will/are handling the issues.   🤷‍♂️

My old EN stuff is an HTML export so a combination of HTML, folders, and PDFs.  I don't have much need to modify it as it is primarily a repository for search.  I have edited some HTML from time to time, but not much.  Mostly to add/delete a tag or change a description.  By and large I only edit new stuff.  Tags are searchable by entering the tag name, or tag*tagname to avoid unwanted results. 

My workflow is to add documents and things I want to remember to my file structure.  It is a simple structure, a root folder of My Paperless with two sub folders, Evernote and Post EN.  There are four folders in Post EN where most new stuff gets added.  Any notes or to-do's I now manage with Workflowy.  I use assorted AHK hotkeys to facilitate working between Workflowy and Directory Opus (a high powered in my view file manager and so much more).  For example if a file represents a follow up I paste the name into WF and have a hotkey which finds and displays in DO.  I use Mega to sync between PCs and mobile devices.  It has E2E encryption and has as quick a sync as I have seen with cloud providers. 

Not a particularly complicated set up which emulates what I did with EN.  I'm 2 1/2 years into it now and it is reasonably fine tuned.  I keep coming back to the forums to check progress as I did leverage EN for quite a few years.  Old habits I suppose.

Rolled my own solution.  Combination of Windows files, Windows indexing on those files, Mega for syncing, Directory Opus for PC access, Workflowy for tasks and notes.  My use case is paperless, GTD, and second brain  30GB of data for a scale reference.  YMMV.  Not for everyone.  But it is at least as fast as Legacy which keeps me happy.

19 minutes ago, MvdH said:

slow and lagging behind on updates on search indices

Not sure this can ever get fully fixed with the phone home model.  For iterative, quick turn use cases there will always be a lag if all updates/searches are done on the server.  FWIW, this issue and the loss of local notebooks led to  my exit in late 2021.  I didn't think it would get fixed any time soon due to the structure.

Don't know what happens if you do all your updates offline and then connect for the sync?  Do indexes update on the client in that mode?

The below was posted 9 months ago.  One thing I did not include in that post was the fact I now use Workflowy for note taking and task management.  As the thread was just about files.  Up to 8600 "notes" in the Post EN part of the repository now.  So it is scaling just fine.  YMMV.

1 hour ago, s2sailor said:

If you haven’t already seen it, search the forum for posts by @CalS.  IIRC his database was mostly pdfs and he rolled his own solution a year or ago that works well for him.  He has posted the details of his new solution.

27k out of 58k notes had a PDF.  Maybe not most but a bunch.  😊

2 hours ago, Feitz said:

It probably should but isn't. Web version is identical with local version ('untitled attachment').

What I figured.  doesn't sound like a download issue, does it?

Does that mean the PDF should be available on the web?

2 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

It is the foundation of their disgusting „business“ model.

I'm sure their targets are folks who don't want to spend $100 for software.  🤣

You need to ask Dave.  I prefer Proton  protein. 

34 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

I started going to the gym

Don't you get faster when you go to the gym?  🤣

2 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Increasing the number of characters per square cm of screen surface is not an indication of a good UI. It is just the opposite, an indication of a lack of ideas and inspiration in creating better software.

Opinion methiniks.  Opposite could be said as well.  Form and function do tussle.

Proof in the pudding is how well it fits a use case.  Airy UI's tend not to work as well for search intensive use cases, adding scrolling in lists.  Too much air can cause scrolling in preview as well.

But that's just me.  I'm, sure many others prefer a less dense UI than I.  🤷‍♂️

3 hours ago, fuchsfr said:

2 moderators liked the above. You guys encourage this bad behavior. 

I was actually complementing his return to good behavior.  The post showed PE's attitude of the past.  PE went down a dark road with all the provocation and pejorative language that landed in these last months.  He was definitely as acerbic as were the posts to which he responded.  When character questioning starts to creep in it's hard to move on I suppose, I thought this was a step forward.  

End of the day, It's only software.

20 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

 we dedicate a lot of time here, without getting any benefit apart from helping others, and learning ourselves from what is posted. There is a difference between not knowing, and not knowing and using this as a false argument, to produce an image of general deficiencies out of it. One is ignorance, the other polemic hiding as ignorance.

@PinkElephant Nice use of restraint.  Ignorance can be forgiven though, not so much rudeness or a lack of decorum. 

You two ever going to give this shite up?

49 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

I just wonder what the advantage of using it for this was.

Search was performed across local and synced documents as well as all other notes, on a prime device.  Worked for me in the day as I only needed access to confidential documents when I was at a specific PC.  🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, ben353253 said:

Well sure back in the spinning HDD drives access was slower and speed less consistent and reliable. But like you say it was a hardware issue and that just doesn't seem to be what's going on here. The fact that you can go to any browser on any machine and have the same slow experience as on your desktop version says there's something fundamentally wrong with their architecture. It feels to me as though nothing is cached locally.

Hard to say back then, but I think speed may have been a software issue as well.  The hardware simply over powered the problem, caching or whatever it might have been..  I think this as just about anyone who switched to SSD saw significant speed improvement.  

Electron gets mixed reviews and I am not knowledgeable to have an informed opinion.  I do have an opinion on having to phone home for all activities though.  If sync is not right now then searches are incomplete post changes, for some time, from seconds to many seconds.  If a use case involves editing and searching in succession, not so good.   A local client and database never had the issue for me.

Sync lag and the loss of local notebooks  with V10 were enough to get me to exit.  🤷‍♂️