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How I understood @PinkElephant is that RTE could interfere with a slow write of an attachment back into Evernote so that a partly saved file is instantly synced and therefore corrupted by RTE. RTE is evil.

That's reassuring. How can one be careful when saving from an external app? I am not aware how I could influence the save process in any way... That's probably related to disappearing attachments in V10.

No, neither I'm afraid. As I understand it, @PinkElephant refers to choosing which (of several) JPGs should be shown in tumbnails. If I have only ONE JPG this always showed, I have hundreds of notes that worked that way (well, in Legacy it did). BTW. If I want to rename an attachment, the extension is hidden in the name field, so I can only modify the title not the file type. Anyone else?

No, I have a note that contains one PDF and one JPG. The JPG is inserted before the PDF. In Legacy the JPG would show in the thumbnail.

Yes, I'll do some more testing to get a better feeling for how often and under which circumstances this can be reproduced. I think when I posted an error I never was the only one who encountered this. 'Untitled Attachments' has been mentioned a couple of times, so there may be more circumstances that lead to this error.

same, and the note was just - repeatedly - created with the same behaviour. It is not an 'old' note that was transformed from Legacy.

this gets weirder by the minute: I wanted to recreate this issue to make a screenshot for clarification (with a recipe from GialloZafferano, very good site btw. if anyone loves Italian food). 1. dragged a PDF into V10 to create a note 2. the note was created and the thumbnail showed the (very small) PDF. 3. dragged a JPG in front of the PDF Result: The JPG is gone, the PDF is gone, only an 'untitled Attachment' remains. I did this in Legacy a thousand times without issue. The thumbnail still shows the PDF as it was prior to adding the JPG. Sorry, can't decrease the size since then ALL of V10 desktop becomes so small it is unreadable... EDIT: just did the same thing again with the same result, PDF, JPG gone, untitled attachment remains. At least the issue is consistent here... EDIT: clicking the 'untitled Attachment' opens the image in preview, the PDF is nowhere to be found but still shows in the thumbnail. I made sure to insert the JPG BEFORE the PDF, not on top of it (blue line where it was supposed to be inserted).

no, this seems to be a different issue. I would not wish so much as to determine which image of my note shows, I would be content if the only picture in the note would be shown. That is, if there is a PDF present in the note as well. To clarify: I have only one JPG and one PDF in the note, and the JPG will not show (most of the time).

well, even V10 is not an application that is so hard to grasp that you need 3 years to fully understand its ins and outs. Since I had to switch only recently because of my last Monterey installation gone I used V10 and if I hit a roadblock it's not due to a lack of understanding of my part. V10 is definitely better than half a year ago and I didn't have any note content lost in sync recently but there are still so many inconsistencies, shortcomings and features that are lacking where they definitively should not, that for my use case Legacy was far superior, more efficient to use and without the 'this drives me nuts'-factor that I encounter in V10 all the time. So if you stopped telling people who prefer Legacy that either their use case is irrelevant or they simply don't grasp the divine benefits of V10 we would probably get along much better in this forum. For @ferol I got a new one, if others can verify this: In Legacy when I created a note with only a PDF in it I then added a JPG before the PDF so the JPG would show in the thumbnail of the note. In V10 this JPG normally will not show in thumbnails (sometimes it does though), if I add text before the PDF the text shows. Inconsistent behaviour, as usual. A bit difficult to describe. I would rather have it behave exactly as Legacy behaved, this was much better to see at a glance what's in the notes.

It should be enough to give them hints to / in (pesky prepositions) the right direction. We'll have to leave some of the work to them anyway. They are responsible for their product and it is in their best - economical - interest to listen to their user base. I trust they will identify critical issues in your list and prioritize accordingly.

You are on Windows if I remember correctly, I am on MacOS Sonoma.

We should not put too much effort into these priorities. BS will look through the whole list anyway (they promised) and set their priorities according to what they are currently working on and what they already planned for the future.

If on a Mac I would try EagleFiler and KeepIt. KeepIt has thumbnail preview and a 3-pane-layout like Evernote. Eaglefiler will allegedly get these later this year. Both are around for a very long time (predecessor to KeepIt was 'Together') EDIT: Tag management is better in KeepIt...

It was their decision to let it run alongside of V10. So if they don't shut it down they have to make sure it presents no security risk to user data. I was not arguing the reason for the release but the fact that this release has been running unpatched for four years, which you repeatedly identified as a security risk:

V10 has so many little annoyances I can't keep count of them. Another one (or actually four) for the @ferol collection regarding hotkeys not working: When I view a note both in 3-pane-mode and in an individual edit window I could zoom in and out in Legacy with 'cmd-plus' and 'cmd -minus' hotkeys. This is standard on a Mac. Only the note was affected, which makes sense. Now in V10 1) I can only zoom a note in and out when I'm in an edit window, otherwise the whole Evernote desktop gets zoomed out EDIT: and not the note. 2) in a note edit window I zoom out and the note AND the whole desktop get zoomed out - what kind of sense does that make??? 3) hit 'cmd -minus' as the menu and the note gets smaller BUT the whole application is zoomed out!!! I don't want my desktop to change when I want my note displayed smaller or larger. 4) once zoomed out and with the whole desktop barely readable because everything from the 3-pane-view to the menu is so small, I can't zoom in again because 'cmd-plus' won't work and the menu is too small to read!! By accident I found that you have to hit 'cmd-sift-plus' instead of 'cmd-plus' as a hotkey to increase font, menu and desktop size again. The Mac desktop is unaffected by all this, so these are no global hotkeys that would change screen resolution. Again only Evernote is behaving badly. Can anyone confirm this to be happening to them please (Im on Macos Sonoma and V10 latest editions)?

Great. BTW I didn't intend to task you with this, but since it is your table I thought it would be best if the whole process was kept under your roof... Thanks again. PS.: since although I brought this up I would actually upvote C.15 to present it at least as it was in Legacy. I think I made a mistake here: my point was not about adding tags, but about filtering notes by tags. In this case presenting only those tags that have been used in a notebook is essential. Showing a long list of all tags makes no sense whatsover, since for filtering the notebook containing the tags is a superior filter criterium. This is how Legacy handled tag filtering. A very good example how this could work is LEAP.APP by Ironic software. It comes with a tag cloud where the size of tags corresponds to the number of occurencies and a filter field to narrow down on certain tags. I used LEAP extensively since 2018 and it works like a charm almost without issue, has perfect spotlight and finder tags integration and is an extremely handy file management tool overall.

That is actually the only reason I quit Legacy on my mac mini when I upgraded to Ventura. Same with my 2015 Macbok Pro which upgraded to Sonoma only recently. That was my last active Legacy install. I no longer use Legacy (not my choice to be sure) but have to make do with V10 for what I still use it. But the point was that - if you are correct and Legacy was a security mess after all - they let it run for four years without a single security patch.

So in all the darkness there is hope 🙂 Thanks for your effort!!! Edit: I would leave the prioritizing to Ferol since it this was his idea. If we strongly disagree with his priorities we can give a friendly hint without creating a huge amount of work for him. My 2cts...

I will not spend anymore time mourning Legacy since the decision to ditch it is final and BS will not revert it. OTOH it probably would have been easy to issue security patches for Legacy APIs if running it was so dangerous. I may remind you that the last version of Legacy (7.14 on the Mac) was published in Dec. 2019 and it has only been kept alive so long because V10 was barely usable and had real issues until at least September 2023. So they could not cut off Legacy since they had nothing stable to replace it. Running it without security patches for over 4 years (which is an eternity in terms of online security) borders on complete negligence and they are very lucky nothing happened - if it is in fact as insecure as you stated several times now. All my personal opinion of course.

Mac only: EagleFiler can wholeheartedly be recommended, if it fits your feature requirements. What it lacks is Legcy's robust sync (it is relying on dropbox or iCloud and should as well work with Synoligy Drive, incl. finder tags). Therefore no concurrent use of it on several devices, which doesn't bother me at all. What it still lacks is a 3-pane-layout (note preview to the right) and note thumbnails, but that should become available this year with V2. Support is second to none, I always get a reply from the owner / developer Michael Tsai within a couple of hours. Another - even more Evernote-like solution is KeepIt which has an iOS app as well.

maybe not as polished as e.g. Samsung but it is an Android flavour and your only option if you want to keep using your phone with a current version of Android. Maybe you find another Android distribution for your phone other than LineageOS? I'm at a loss. You want to keep using your current phone with Evernote which will not work. You don't want to upgrade neither your phone nor your operating system and you don't want to leave Evernote. One thing has to give. You might try Evernote web client on your phone but this probably isn't very practical either.

of course, but it remembers your last decision anyway, so this button should have been placed on top and not in a submenu. Once I open the 'more...' menu I can either pick a color or reuse the current one, so only one click is necessary if I keep the last highlight colour... Other apps place these formatting buttons dynamically, if the window is broad enough they show, if not they're placed behind a 'more options' button or similar.

Thank you, that would help, I never used it in Legacy since highlighting was a one-click-affair. I noticed another strange behaviour with V10: when I am editing a note and want to undo something you normally use 'cmd-Z' like in any other app. In V10 this sometimes works but most of the time 'cmd-z' invokes the search window, that should in fact open with 'cmd-option-F'. Why does it react to a completely different shortcut??? Edit: if others confirm this behaviour, it would be a candidate for @ferol's Bug / wish list...

Another one: I'm highlighting a lot in Evernote. In Legacy I could just mark text and click the highlight, now highlight is hidden in a submenu, so I have to hit 'more...' and then highlight. Very annoying and unnecessary, since there would be enough room for a highlight button in the menu. Two clicks repeatedly instead of one.

If it has not already been posted, here's another one (or two): I can't print web clips, neither export as PDF. Only the title is printed with several blank pages where the web clippint should have been. Macos, 10.78.2 The clip shows just fine in V10 desktop app.