Chris_W

@bigtelco By the way, did you notice that text from PDFs can't be selected any longer? On iPhone, I have to download the PDF to the files app, open it there and only then can I select text to copy.

I get your point, but iOS auto-updates are probably used by the vast majority of users. One should be able to trust a company the size of Evernote to not release a nonfunctional late alpha version. Evernote can fix this without users having to dig through forum posts.

Copying text when viewing a PDF file is not working any longer. This can't be for real. As mentioned in my post here:

Not just that, copying something from a PDF also isn't working any longer. You now have to download the file first. It gets worse, Evernote doesn't offer any save dialog there and auto-saves the file to a newly created folder in iCloud (Files app). Only there, in the Files app, you can copy something out of the PDF. Since attachment search and editing is one of the premium features, how can it be that Evernote's iOS app now doesn't fully support its own advertised capabilities and that the iOS Files app is needed for basic interaction like copying text from a PDF? Lack of search and the copy issue are related to basic file interactions, so I posted here, but also made a separate request:

Leaving aside the security issues Electron has and the opinion among security researchers that it shouldn't exist, I think it's fair to say that crippling is relative here. Compared to native frameworks Electron will always do worse in performance. At some point, this might not matter. Like you mentioned, Notion isn't exactly bad on iOS. So I agree that it might just work out in the end and become usable. My concern here is that if not implemented well, the foundation itself becomes the problem that no shiny new editor or anything else can fix. What we are seeing right now is a lack of previously existing features, bad system integration (Siri shortcuts, etc., gone), compounded by performance issues. So far, we only get the downsides of Electron. In a way the faster development across platforms might get canceled out by more work on performance problems and re-integration of features that native frameworks already provide (services, keyboard shortcuts on Mac, Apple Script support, …). My biggest issue is that this was an acceptable version for them to publicly release, this needs months of more work and that's why I'm a bit pessimistic about the future of the product. Here is a video that illustrates the choppy and sluggish user experience of the new Evernote compared to the Notes app. The lack of fluidity and the constant delay make simple things like swiping a pain to use.

Seems worse for me as well in 10. But I gotta say iOS 14 is pretty rough and I get lots of memory issues in general, so might not be Evernote's fault.

Yeah, I switched it all off. It's not usable it seems. In the past, hundreds of notes downloaded in a few minutes, now the app can't download 26 notes (I aborted after 30 or 40 minutes).

You'll find differing opinions on Electron (Electron is Cancer, Is Electron good or bad for the app industry?, What Is Electron and Why Is It So Polarizing?). Basically these apps are websites wrapped in a Chrome based browser window. They are easier for developers to create than native apps and they look very similar on all platforms. Evernote states that this will make it easier to roll out new features and speed up development. The downside is that the user experience is worse than native apps. They are very heavy on resources and slow. They don't really fit into the operating system, they look off and behave unexpectedly. If you always have the latest and fastest hardware, they can feel acceptable, but on older devices their shortcomings will become much more apparent. In my case, I have a 2019 top of the line iMac and found that the performance of the Evernote Preview was unacceptable. High CPU usage for basic things like changing notes. The fans were noticeable most of the time when Evernote was open, even in the background without doing anything. One recent example of how bad things can go using Electron is the backup software Arq. They released a major rewrite based on it in April (version 6) and the problems people were having were so bad, Arq suspended their official Twitter account and subreddit because of the negative backlash. Fast forward to this month, they just announced their next major version (7), just 5 months after the last, going back to a native UI, because it's "got better keyboard navigation, it’s more intuitive, has a smaller disk footprint, and supports drag-and-drop to easily restore files to your desktop or a Finder window. It just feels better." To me, it's a bit ironic that Evernote released its iOS version update shortly after iOS 14 dropped because it made the missing platform specific features so much more apparent. Watch app? Gone. Widget? Gone. Siri Shortcuts? Gone. Keyboard shortcuts? What's that? Other developers are racing to make widgets and integrate their apps more into the platform, while Evernote does the opposite.

I've seen this behavior now as well.

Deleting the app and reinstalling seems to have solved the sync issue for now (tested in the last few hours). Now that it syncs, I started to get note conflicts with duplicates, as mentioned in other threads.

Thank you, but that doesn't work for me. I had this setting on from the beginning, so all described behavior above still holds true. The only internal links that always work to open the note, are the ones starting with evernote:/// (classic internal links), which have been removed from the Mac beta. Are you sure you are opening links that DON'T start with evernote:/// and also that Evernote is open in the background?

I've also been using and paying for it for this long and it's the first time I really consider abandoning the service. I've had a bad feeling about the Electron foundation from the start and it seems that it's actually worse than even optimists imagined. Most of the issues reported here, in addition to the overwhelmingly negative reactions on Twitter or Reddit, can be associated with Electron based apps (slow/sluggish, huge CPU usage, missing platform features/integration). The fact that they won't turn the ship back to more native platform solutions is the biggest issue for me.

The share sheet itself comes up and all, but then the content doesn't show up anywhere (iOS, web, Mac). Might be related to the sync issues.

Another post related to sync issues here:

Thanks. If there was a way to get a TestFlight link to the old version that would be great, since the new one is not functional. Read only access to my notes for a few days now was a nuisance, but another week would be a bigger problem.

Thank you. I can say that the website also does not reflect any changes made in the iOS version. I'll edit my original post to include that info.

I have the same issue with the clipper, but also, nothing I do in the iOS app is actually reflected in the desktop or web app. It's like a read only version of Evernote that has been frozen. I'm also interested in getting the previous version back. This iOS version is a late apha version at best and should not be live.

@chinarut Thanks for your input here. I tried with your shared link from above and I can confirm that when clicking your link, Evernote opens as long as it is in the background, but it doesn't actually open the linked note (same behavior as in my first video) When Evernote is closed completely (swiped up in app switcher), clicking the shared link opens a Safari tab, which is different behavior compared to my example. In the case of my link from the first video, closing Evernote worked as a solution to open the actual note in Evernote, while your link opens the actual note in a Safari tab. To summarize, closing Evernote completely opens the note that was supposed to be openend (instead of just the app) with differing behaviors (Safari tab vs. Evernote app) depending on the link (unclear if there's a difference in format between shared internal links and internal links), while clicking any link with Evernote open in the background does not open the intended note at all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ok, so anything I do in the iOS version is not reflected in the stable Mac version (or website). Creating a note does not sync to the Mac (or website). Deleting a note does not sync to the Mac (or website). I've had Evernote on iOS open for like 60 minutes (foreground) for notes I created hours ago and even after restarts or pull down to refresh nothing syncs back to the Mac. If I create or delete a note on Mac, it shows up or disappears on iOS. So it's an iOS to website (to Mac) issue seemingly. UPDATED

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This is a similar issue to what I was referring to in another bug "report" I posted here recently, that internal links to Evernote are broken (no replies there yet, not sure how aware Evernote is). It doesn't seem to matter if the copied URL is an internal URL or a shared (internal) URL. They both don't open the actual notes. Could you try something? If you close the Evernote app completely from the app switcher and repeat the process of clicking your shared note from Notion, does it open the correct note in Evernote?

I agree this is a huge step back. It seems that the editor stuff has been a priority for Evernote developers for so long now that basic workflow features are missing. The ability to filter a notebook view (or all notes) by tag is crucial for anyone who uses more than like 10 tags. As mentioned by others, search or even saved searches can't replace this.

Hi, It seems like the internal links don't work reliably. I noticed that when Evernote is in the background, clicking an internal link doesn't open a note, only Evernote will open (see video). When Evernote is closed completely via the app switcher (swiped up), the note will open. The internal "classic" links don't show this issue, which is why I prefer using those via the Shortcuts app (see second video). It seems that the new beta for Mac doesn't have "classic" internal links, which creates a huge problem, since the current internal links that don't start with "evernote://" don't actually work on iOS unless I close the app completely after each use and on Mac they just open the web browser, which makes them useless.

Gotta say I agree, the performance is really bad and the iPhone gets really warm.