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  1. Appreciate your points, as always, but the change to the monolithic "Web Clip" seems to be very recent. Maybe that's an iOS change, perhaps? The Web Clipper extension - at least in Firefox - seems suddenly very flaky. Sometimes works, sometimes does nothing. The "Complete Article" selection no longer seems to show the boundaries of the selection, at least on my iMac/Firefox system. Simplified Article sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Often leaves images out with gaps where they should have been. Everything USED to work just fine. Sharing from iOS resulted in neat, fully editable notes. Notes gathered by the Web Clipper browser extension were clearly marked by outlines which were adjustable, simplified article was superb with all images intact, and again, produced fully editable notes. Maybe the ever-growing complexity of so many web pages, with slip-sliding overlays and chopped up scrolling text (which I find almost unreadable) make things very difficult for the Web Clipper? But having posted the problems here from the user point of view, maybe things might improve? One can only live in hope...
  2. Fair point - but perhaps the ability to choose the default behaviour may be the answer? In other words, web clips default to either an uneditable block, or fully editable? Most of the web clips I get also carry a lot of the useless ads that seem to be scattered everywhere over most web sites these days, so I've routinely gone through them on the computer, especially if clipped off the iPad, and edit all the ads out. That's also one thing the "Simplify Formatting" command was also good for - after editing, leaving perhaps something of a disorganised page, click on Simplify Formatting and everything gets tidied up nicely. Mostly.
  3. Evernote is heading down the path to screwdom!! A lot of my content/notes are gathered using Web Clipper on the desktop (Mac) or using the Share box to Evernote on the iPad or iPhone. Those notes are no longer editable - they just have a frame around the whole thing labelled "Web Clip" and I can't edit them, eg to get rid of bits I don't want. Web Clipper on the Mac (in Firefox, fully updated) is very hit and miss - sometimes it comes up, other times I can click on the icon on the task bar till the cows come home and nothing happens. Notes not editable is a HUGE "no-no", but now the menu item to "Simplify Formatting" has also gone. I used that a lot. So now we're paying more, for much less functionality. Please bring back editable notes from web article clippings, fix up the dodgy Web Clipper extension, bring back Simplify Formatting, and all the other bugs that have crept into this disaster. I've been using Evernote since it started, and have come to rely on it for almost everything I need to remember as random notes, files, research papers, etc. It seems to be going downhill fast!! EDIT: I just discovered, purely by accident, that if I click on the top of the frame labelled "Web Clip", there is an icon that says "Make editable". That potentially fixes one problem mentioned above. But why do that? All notes should be editable by default. Why should I have to find - accidentally - that an extra click is needed to make my notes editable?
  4. How about this for the last word? Apology accepted, and with some relief, as I had absolutely no idea that the phrase I used could even be interpreted in any way other than the way I intended it - a bunch of folks from Italy. Now let's just complain about the price rises, and whether or not we actually need AI in Evernote, or is it being done just to keep up with the current fad?
  5. Fair point about the GDRP being an advantage. But if I'd wanted to refer to the Mafia, I would have used a capital M for Mob. I didn't, and the word 'mob' remains, at least here in Australia, a generic term for any collective or group of animals or people. If I'd referred to the creators of Spark Mail, PDF Expert, etc as a Ukrainian mob - it still would have been accurate, and statement of fact. Geez - the winds of political correctness have blown into this forum since I first came here donkey's years ago. Or are you not familiar with that Australian expression either? Back to the main point of the discussion - increasing the subscription prices, especially by so much, surely has to be almost a net-zero game? The increased pricing might cover the loss of income due to those who find the new prices too high and leave. Obviously, that's a generalisation, but I would have thought that a very small increase, with people much more likely to suck it up and stay on board, would have produced a more reliable increase in company income? And of course, BS need to get everything they buy to generate more income so they can buy yet more companies and IP. That seems to be their business model.
  6. OK - I have to respond to the slurs about me, mainly by Bill Myers. First, my use of the expression "Italian mob" is a statement of fact. It is not a slur, and has never been intended as one. In Australia, where I am, a mob is any group of people (or sheep, kangaroos, cattle, etc). It means a group, a collective. Bending Spoons is exactly that. And who are you to assume I intended an ethnic slur by calling them Italian? They ARE Italian..! It was a statement of indisputable fact. I didn't use any pejorative terms for their nationality - I used the name of their nationality. Exactly the same as if I'd called them an Australian mob, an American mob, or a Ukrainian mob. You set yourself up as a woke arbiter of what YOU think other people have said. I say - get off your high horse, stop implying slurs where none exist, and stick to the point of the discussion.
  7. When I called Bending Spoons "greedy", it's due to my other experience with them. One of my other interests is smartphone videography, and the 3rd party app of choice among smartphone videographers has been an app called Filmic Pro. It has been the de facto standard for use in making more complex videos than just the usual holiday snaps-type videos. It was a paid app, for a few bucks, pretty much in line with the better class of App Store apps for an iPhone. Had a huge following. Bending Spoons bought Filmic Pro a few months ago, and switched it to not just a subscription model (there's no server use etc required - it's purely a local app) but at OUTRAGEOUSLY jacked-up prices. Like $AUD150 a year. For a phone app. Way above even Adobe levels of "out of touchness". And we know what the majority think of subscription plans. For something like Evernote, where we're also paying for server space (similar to Dropbox etc), I don't have a problem paying a subscription model. But not for a phone app. The result is people have been dumping Filmic Pro in droves, and luckily, there is a superb alternative in the "buy it once" category that is as advanced as Filmic Pro, called Cinema P3, which needless to say has now become very popular. I suspect Bending Spoons is one of those companies that just buys other peoples' ideas, IP, and products, milks them until they don't cough up any more, then dumps them. I'm not aware of any actual products they've created themselves. Like others in here, I've been an Evernote user since it started (about 2008 I think it was), and have tried pretty much every alternative out there - and none of them are anywhere near as good as Evernote was at its peak. But now the current version has no sync on command with an icon showing you it's syncing, my v10 doesn't seem to download notes locally for offline use at all on either my Macs or my iOS devices, takes ages to download any note, doesn't seem to have OCR any more that works on PDFs, images, etc... It is on the downhill slide. And I don't know what to jump onto as a replacement. I used to recommend it to everyone, almost evangelically, but now I've stopped even mentioning it when asked about note-taking, database-style, "second-brain" type apps. Doesn't even rate a mention. And I wonder how long before Bending Spoons will milk it dry with ridiculous price increases then dump it?
  8. Long-time Evernoter here - since 2008. Also long time member here on the forums, but haven't posted for ages. These price rises worry me, especially that Evernote has been bought by Bending Spoons. Bending Spoons also bought out Filmic Pro, an iOS app for 3rd party video recording, that is better than the native iOS app, and was widely used among smartphone videographers as the gold standard. But when Bending Spoons bought the app, they whacked on the most outrageously-priced subscription prices (it had previously been a typical pay-once iOS & Android app), a mass exodus has been underway. The prices were simply untenable, especially for a phone app - they would be extortionate even for a desktop app. Think Adobe-like levels...! Fortunately for those of us into smartphone videography, there are numerous really good alternatives, such as Cinema P3 - the one I switched to - so I haven't lost any functionality at all. I suspect that Filmic Pro will either revert to pay-once, or cease to exist within a few months. Evernote has a much bigger user base than a small iOS/Android app, and of course the subscription model has been with Evernote from the beginning. Easily justified as paying for server space, offline OCR, etc (remember that?). But now that the greedy Italian mob have bought Evernote, all bets are off, and the price rises are "to support continued development" and all the other usual justification BS. Interesting that the company's initials are also BS...! I am quite happy with Evernote the way it is, with the exception that I want to regain the function of sync at will. Currently, I can't "force" a sync, and there's no way of knowing if or when the app is syncing, so I don't know if a new note has been saved or not. Bring back the 'Sync' button, and the sync notification/progress alert. Other than that, I don't have any use for group chats, collaboration, workplace teams, or AI. I've tried several alternatives to Evernote - searching my past posting history in here will document some of them - but nothing came up to scratch. Now, it seems, I'm just going to have to look a bit harder. I am NOT a fan of Bending Spoons - they just seem to be piranhas of the software world, buying other peoples' work, then jacking up prices to milk them dry. A parasitic relationship. Evernote selling out to them was a bad move for users. End of rant. For now...
  9. Thanks for the reply - appreciated. Yes, it just seems a bit odd that the plugin to show PDFs is dependent on the OS rather than being intrinsic to Evernote v7.14, while it works in Evernote v10. And that version 10 thing of showing only one page at a time, and not the whole document that you can scroll through quickly like we could in v7.14 - that's a real pain in the ass...! Don't know who thought that would be an improvement?! Probably the team that thought changing almost everything from a faultlessly working version 7.14 to create this new monster would be a good idea! We have the updated versions of EN on our iOS devices - and hate them with a passion. It happened because I had automatic updates turned on. And now we have slow, unresponsive EN, can't sync on demand, and a lot of the time it doesn't sync at all and loses notes, and all this other stuff that we don't want - like Tasks. It's about as useless as Chat. I just want my repository of notes back, that could perform OCR on images and PDFs, and store everything locally, instantaneous search, and sync on demand by hitting a sync button or pulling and releasing on the iOS versions.
  10. I'm still on EN v7.14 on all my Macs, but I upgraded my (non-mission critical) Macbook Pro a few days ago to MacOS Monterey Public Beta and now EN will not display any PDF files. I just get "Missing Plugin" in the note pane. So I bit the bullet, and installed the latest Evernote v10 on that same Macbook Pro. Now it displays the PDF files in notes - but in a weird way - it only displays one page at a time, and you have to scroll to the bottom of every single page to find the forward/back arrows and click on them. A complete pain in the ass to find your way through a hundred page PDF...! Can't use the scroll bar, and there's no overview strip of the pages under the note pane as there is on the iPad, for example. v10 on Monterey also seems to take forever to load up and start working, whereas I'm used to the lightning fast startup time of v7.14. Overall, I'm not happy with version 10 at all, but I'm not sure how much of that is due to it running on the Monterey Beta. And I'm not game to upgrade my perfectly-working v7.14 on my other Macs that ARE mission critical. So - what is the "missing plugin" in Monterey? Is it something I can download separately and install? Is it something that is likely to be fixed with an update to the Beta of Monterey, so that I can then revert to my v7.14 (which I still have installed alongside v10)? Anyone any clues?
  11. I suspect that every complaint in this entire thread is due to the new versions of Evernote being written in Electron. I've tried alternatives, like Notejoy, Nimbus Note, but they're also written in Electron, and are not really any snappier than Evernote. So I'm sticking with v7.14 on the Mac, and ignoring the reminder blurbs that keep popping up telling me it's time to upgrade. No way...! It's just a pity that there is no downgrade pathway for iOS on my iPhone or iPad - those new versions are terrible, too, especially the clipper! And to think that while we had v7.14 on the Mac and the previous versions on iOS, they were all working so well...! The problem with searching for an alternative, and I have tried many, is that at best, they're still not even as good as Evernote has been. But what they don't seem to realize is that they need to be not just "as good" - they need to be BETTER, so that there is incentive to switch. If they're only "as good", then where is the incentive to switch? May as well stick with EN until they get it right...!
  12. Jut to clarify a point, though - previous versions of Evernote did NOT require us to open EN in order to "receive" the share. I have done it for years, particularly from Flipboard, and the share went straight from Flipboard to Evernote in the background. I've never had to open Evernote on the iPad or iPhone to "receive" the share first. When I opened EN the next time, all the shares from Flipboard were already there, and if it was a period of time before I actually opened EN, it had already synced to the EN servers in the background. My question is - why can't it go straight to EN from Flipboard the way it used to do? In the background? And sync to the EN servers - in the background? Or is it that I'm now using v7.14 on the computers but v10.3 on the iPad? Is it the mixed versions causing the hiccups, although I can't see how or why that would be the case? I'm very clear on understanding the difference between sharing and syncing. The current problem is primarily a sharing problem - we shouldn't need to open the target app to "receive it". If I choose to share to Facebook (I very rarely do that) from Flipboard, it posts directly to Facebook. I don't have to go to the Facebook app, or the browser, to receive it first. And it used to do the equivalent thing sharing to Evernote. Now it doesn't, and we have to go through contortions and multiple steps opening different apps just to share to EN. It's a royal PITA...! And we're paying for this downgrade...!
  13. I don't care how many or how few "Likes" I get - I don't count or take notice of them. My point is that after several months, as a paying Premium customer for the past 12 years, I still have iOS versions of Evernote that have flaws, missing functions, slow syncing, scrambled web page clipping, multiple steps to clip where we had a simple and working Clipper previously, etc etc. I'm back on v7.14 on my Macs, and have unchecked all updating. But my iOS versions autoupdated before I became aware of all the faults and missing features. I called for replacement of v10 with previously working versions a few weeks ago. Nothing happened, and we all still have faulty version 10 apps. So I'm renewing my call for reverting to the previous versions. We're still paying Evernote good money...!
  14. The iOS Share Clipper used to work. It was slow, but it worked. It would transfer the whole page, etc as required. It would also automatically create a title, let you set tags, and would also send the source URL. It would sync it to Evernote directly. Slow, but reliable. Fine tuning could be done on the Mac or PC if needed. Now - it is hopeless. It has become a laborious multi-step process. Clip an article and you get a message saying it will be synced next time you open Evernote on this device. So you then have to leave what you're doing and open Evernote, whereupon it then takes several minutes just to import the clip. But even then, it has only clipped locally - you then need to manually sync (pull down and release) to get the local Evernote to send the clip to the Evernote servers. Not until you've done all of that can you access the clip on any other device. And only then can you go back to whatever it was that you were doing in the first place. It is truly awful, counter-productive, and staggeringly mind-blowing how software engineers could possibly take something that worked and ***** it up so badly!! What on earth are they suggesting are the "improvements"? And don't even get me started on the main program - that is a disaster all to itself. This post is only about the clipper via the Share function. Once again, we have to ask that they simply pull ALL of the new versions of Evernote off the market, replace them with renumbered old versions that worked perfectly, and then either give up on the new version (nobody actually asked for an Electron version as far as I know from the forums) or spend several months getting it right. And do that while you still have a semblance of a customer base, and before the class actions start....
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