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v10 has all been a bit of blessing for me. I was struggling with it and then the final straw was an automatic update that wiped out my data content in several notes (that were subsequently recovered when I quit and restarted EN). But It got my attention and forced me to look at my workflow and simplify things. Turns out I don't NEED Evernote, but I do need a few of the functions. And I don't need EN's iOS, but I do need some of the data while mobile. Things change, people change, markets change, companies change, their products change. And all this hubbub with V10 is just part of the business cycle. Use EN while its benefits to you out-way the issues with dependability, risk and effort. Otherwise seek other solutions. Don't choose to be a victim. There are plenty of choices. I can't recommend it for anyone else, but based on my work flow, my choice was to export EN Legacy into DevonThink Pro and use that platform along with Excel. I have no experience with DT's iOS client, but the Mac interface is an awesome extension to OSx. DT Pro isn't perfect and I know it will change. But at least for now I have control of of my data store and its security. And I'm in control of application updates. If I want separate databases I can create them. If I want encrypted databases for sensitive data, I can create those as well. I loved MS Outlook when it first came out. Finally a way to manage your information in one app. .I still love the concept and continue to seek the Holy Grail.

I've posted several times here and to EN Support while running 10.4.4 on MacMini OS 11.1 - Ticket# 3220704; 12/9/2020. As noted above, Shane posts that EN is aware and working on it - at least since Nov 9. The exit and restart strategy worked as an effective temporary patch. He also requests posts in this thread if the problem persists. And so I have. The fix I received from EN Support was to completely uninstall EN and install the current app. Well, I did that a few days ago all was OK. And then this morning I got a reminder from my EN Legacy version and when I checked it on my desktop I got the blank screen for the note. I have no idea the two are related, but in either case the seemingly random blank page is still going on with 10.5.7 build 2171. I sent my activity log to EN support. But it's not just that. I experience random Speed lags. I've had the unpredictable stuttering appearance during keyboard input, no characters appear while the note is in "saving" mode. I still have no answers from EN support about how EN handles erratic internet signals (latency, jitter, packet loss, Up/Dowload rate). the effect of poor internet signal Look, 95% of the time, the EN features I use work OK - maybe not perfectly, but at least predictably. But I've come to rely on certain EN functions for my workflow. I need EN to work, not 95% but 99.9994% of the time. If my car would only work 95% of the time, I would try to fix it. And if that didn't work, I'd get another car. Evernote has exceptional features and great for the adventurous soul, but it's become too unstable and unreliable for me. So, I reluctantly say good bye, Evernote. I wish all you Evernote warriors well, but I'm done with the battle. I've now switched back permanently to the Legacy version and praying it stays functional while I figure out alternatives to the EN functions I use.

I know is a Windows forum, so I also posted to Mac. I imagine the iNet parameter minimum requirements would be the same but don't know if EN verified the minimums for both Mac & Windows.

I've had an open support ticket on this item since Nov 16 (Ticket# 3205058). I'm running MacMini, 11.1, Have EN 10.5.7 Build 2171 This post has to do with the degree to which my ISP's signal contributes to lags in EN performance speed. I'm trying to get the technical information without rant or opinion. What are the VERIFIED (not theoretical) EN 10.4/10.5 minimum limits for data transfer rate (MB/s Up & Down), "jitter"(ms), latency (ms) and packet loss%? How does EN handle data flow during below minimum conditions. I have other online apps that behave poorly during high jitter, long latency and high packet loss. Particularly when there is input data exchange going on between my system and secure forms - like banking transactions, online ordering. I have exactly 1 reasonable option for an ISP. If I can confirm that iNet signal is the main problem, I'll just switch to the Legacy version and speed up my hunt for EN alternatives while putting some pressure on my ISP. My issue is similar to many forum posts I've read. I didn't notice the issue until 10.3.7. It has to do with the jerky/erratic appearance of text being entered into an EN note. Delays ranging from noticeable to 2 second delay between keystroke and its appearance within the EN. It syncs perfectly with the new "saving"/ "all changes saved" dialog in the lower right of the note. I first noticed it in 10.3.7, and then 10.4.4 and with no specific cause known, I expect it will pop up in 10.5 as well. It is not systematic or reproducible - seems to happen randomly and for various lengths of time. I did notice that the new "saving"/ "all changes saved" dialog in the lower right of the note synced perfectly with the "jerky" behavior. I'm guessing that "all changes saved" means that the data is confirmed to be saved to the cloud database - but I don't know that. I noticed that when the amount of time "saving" increased, my lag in keyboard entry also increased.

I've had an open support ticket on this item since Nov 16 (Ticket# 3205058). I'm running MacMini, 11.1, Have EN 10.5.7 Build 2171 This post has to do with the degree to which my ISP's signal contributes to lags in EN performance speed. I'm trying to get the technical information without rant or opinion. What are the VERIFIED (not theoretical) EN 10.4/10.5 minimum limits for data transfer rate (MB/s Up & Down), "jitter"(ms), latency (ms) and packet loss%? How does EN handle data flow during below minimum conditions. I have other online apps that behave poorly during high jitter, long latency and high packet loss. Particularly when there is input data exchange going on between my system and secure forms - like banking transactions, online ordering. I have exactly 1 reasonable option for an ISP. If I can confirm that iNet signal is the main problem, I'll just switch to the Legacy version and speed up my hunt for EN alternatives while putting some pressure on my ISP. My issue is similar to many forum posts I've read. It has to do with the jerky/erratic appearance of text being entered into an EN note. Delays ranging from noticeable to 2 second delay between keystroke and its appearance within the EN. It syncs perfectly with the new "saving"/ "all changes saved" dialog in the lower right of the note. I first noticed it in 10.3.7, and then 10.4.4 and with no specific cause known, I expect it will pop up in 10.5 as well. It is not systematic or reproducible - seems to happen randomly and for various lengths of time. I did notice that the new "saving"/ "all changes saved" dialog in the lower right of the note synced perfectly with the "jerky" behavior. I'm guessing that "all changes saved" means that the data is confirmed to be saved to the cloud database - but I don't know that. I noticed that when the amount of time "saving" increased, my lag in keyboard entry also increased.

My instruction from tech support today was, as one might expect: Log out, uninstall and install latest version.

Well put. The guy is brave for explaining what happened and some of the logic. But other than putting more emphasis on the needs of existing as well as "power users", I didn't see a lot of reassurance of specific changes to improve release quality. I use EN a lot, but I'm not a "power user". I just want the basics to work. When I type a letter from my keyboard it should appear immediately in the EN, not 1 second later. When I start a new note its Title and body space should be available so that could enter the note, not have to stop and restart the app. I've learned that EN syncing is just not reliable, so just focus on using one device. I've learned that trying to sync without excellent version control is a recipe for disaster. I know a bit about product launch, the high priority of the release date, and creative license to show compliance with Beta criteria. So I understand why products get through Beta with known flaws. But for final release we had to verify AND validate the effectiveness of corrections. We could NEVER push that responsibility onto the end user. I believe that is what EN made a clear decision to do and we end users are helping them finalize BETA testing

I've had trouble "loosing" all notes and individual notes as well as other issues. with 10.4.4. See support ticket 3220704

David; I issued a request to EN support on the Dec 9th and got a response the 13th asking for the specifics of my Device, OS, EN Version and EN.log file. I replied back today, requesting the support person LOOK at this forum for more info. There seems to be plenty of instances for them to select from. I do wonder whether or if anyone at EN actually reads the posts. I see that Shane D acknowledged this sort of problem on Nov 5 and asked for feedback if the posted solution does not work.

Sorry for the dyslexia - the blank EN is in the right column - as shown in the attachment.

I have the same issue. I use the 3 col. view and I can see the Note and it's first few lines in the Middle Column, but the note itself Left Column is blank. This has happened to me 3 times in the last week. I can't predict when it will happen. When I quit EN and then restart I can see the note in the right column. Running MacMini BigSur 11.0.1 with EN 10.4.4 Build 2096.

Sadly, I wasn't surprised by your post. I use and need that functionality. So I tried it on my MacMini. I created a new note first. Then opened Finder, found a .pdf and dropped it in the new note. It worked fine. I opened an old note and tried pdf drag and drop and it worked fine. Specs on my Mac and EN are attached

I understand completely and did the same thing and installed the Legacy version which seemed to work nicely with iOS. But, then I couldn't determine when or if my concerns were addressed by the newer releases for OSx. So, as a premium user, I grudgingly submitted a support request for one specific issue caused by 10.3.7. The EN support staff responded in a couple of days in an email with Ticket number). I requested they advise me when my concern was resolved - which they never did. But, with the email and ticket number I could email support weekly to check progress and see if my specific concern was addressed. After a couple of weeks, my email update request resulting in a generic "new release should address" my issue. And the 10.4.3 release for Mac did address the speed issue I was having (I'm running on MacMini with BigSur 11.0.1) - slow sync with the EN database and delay in keystrokes reaching the EN screen. While I was able to get up and running with the current release, it's only temporary. Due to the ongoing performance issues and unexpected changes, I'm not planning on continuing with EN for the long term.

You are brave. I love the concept of OpenSource. I took a quick look at Joplin and it looks like it would be a a steep learning curve for me. At least you will mitigate unsolicited change, own your data and have access to it. Good Luck

Thanks for the useful information. And I agree that I'd rather not have to migrate away from EN but I must be able to trust them with access to my date. In a bizarre twist just now, I was reading this topic flow and came across a post indicating a user could not copy and past graphics from one EN to another. That didn't seem right so I opened my EN 10.4.3, copied one of my jpegs from a note to try pasting it into a new note. When I created the new note, the note contents in ALL of my other notes was "gone". I tried different views - same result. I quit EN then restarted - a new update automatically started, and I could now see my EN contents. This kind of behavior is unacceptable - I'll just have to see what the new update brings. And I must turn the autoupdate feature OFF.