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8 minutes ago, agsteele said:

WE can presume but I'm not sure that we can be confident I hope you are correct...

I don't think we can be confident about anything right now wince we are not really hearing solid roadmaps or explanations from the developer team, thus all we can do is assume at this time unfortunately.

18 hours ago, Juan Chica said:

I am trying to change the default font, but I have not been able to.

From what I can tell, you can change the "default" font within a note with the "UPDATE" option as seen below. So within the same note, everything will match that. However, I tested it out to see if the next note I created after that will use that font, it did not. 

We can assume this option will come with the "Preferences" option that is to be added later on. 

15 minutes ago, Mike P said:

EN will never again be the fast responsive program we have grown to love and rely on.

That is my biggest worry. I can workaround lack of features but if it is going to be as slow as it is right now, we have a major issue (or at least I do).

Right now, I type a tag in, it takes a second or two to register. Last night, I moved a tag, the pop up says it is moved, but the tag was still in the same location for a while. I waited and waited, it finally moved. This morning, I did the same move (since I did not move all the tags with that slowness) with the remaining moves on V6.25 at work and it was instantaneous which I had taken for granted from a Windows app and NOW am very grateful for.

Similarly, I move a note to a different notebook, pop up says it is moved, but I still see the same note for a while. This is an issue with my workflow since I have a default notebook called Collection Bucket which I process and by processing I move the notes after deciding what they are, and move onto the next one. This is very fast and nice on the legacy app.

In short, the delay and the lag is very concerning to me for the future of my usage.

On 10/24/2020 at 3:52 AM, naturale said:

I want to know on Nimbus does the Table/Speadsheet can do some calculation , or I mean We can do the calculation like in the spreadsheet on Nimbu's Table/spreadsheet

It does basic calculations at the very bottom of a table. For example ↓

2 hours ago, DMiddleton said:

How much RAM and CPU is being used on your machines with EN running, and have you tried monitoring it as you navigate through different notes/notebooks?

And these are on the remote desktop which has way more processing power and memory than my laptop of course. Again takes up the most CPU compared to anything that is running. This does not look normal to me but I am not the expert here at all.

2 hours ago, DMiddleton said:

How much RAM and CPU is being used on your machines with EN running, and have you tried monitoring it as you navigate through different notes/notebooks?

So when I am on the local desktop, it is consuming the most memory for sure, right now as I type this it is taking up the most memory and I am not even doing anything in it.

I attached screenshots from it while, I was moving a note, or assigning tags.

15 minutes ago, DMiddleton said:

Reading some of the feedback on the forums the performance varies widely between users with some having very poor performance and lags, while my own experience is not as bad as that it is noticeably slower that the legacy version.

Mine is painfully slow!!! I have tried it on a remote desktop, local machine (laptop), local desktop at home....and all 3 is below my standards. The lag is beyond noticeable. I can understand it won't be instantaneous but if I am waiting for note the go away after I moved it to a different notebook, that is an issue for me.

My next question then is why is it so different for many users? Is it the number of notes? 

And since the legacy app works fast on the same computer, I would conclude that there is an issue here aside from the performance or the capability of the PC.

12 minutes ago, dcon said:

v10 is an Electron app

Generally speaking, are electron apps slower than native desktop apps that we had been used to before? Generic question to understand the electron apps better and whether I should just prepare myself for slow apps?!

What are the limitations to the electron apps and the advantages?

Great point and interesting, I have not had a chance to set the reminder in V10 yet since it is so slow for me to use, but I just checked it out and this again does not make sense in a WINDOWS APP. Makes sense for iOS etc. but where I can type in with a keyboard I would like to set the reminders to what I would lke.

21 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Two questions: on what platform are/were the tabs available?

It was on the Mac version. And I think it was one of the well kept secrets. 

I don’t use my Mac for work stuff so I never used it much but when I did I thought it was a good feature to have on the windows app. 

4 minutes ago, CalS said:

I sent an email to Nimbus and got a response from the founder within 4 hours.  Not bad.  The essence of the response (my bolding):

Thank you for your question and for drawing our attention to this matter. It seems that our lawyers proposed the wording, which can be misunderstood. 

 

First of all, we will change the statement and review the whole Terms section since we don't use users' data for any other purposes than providing a service.  
 

Secondly, the main idea behind the statement was to simplify the interaction between users and Nimbus. We have many features and are adding new ones for collaboration between users, adding information from different sources via embeds, links, etc. Many scenarios appear when users manage their data (I'd like to emphasize that data belong to users), and all of them should be reflected in the terms. You can find similar statements in the terms of other similar products with better derivatization. 

 

Our lawyers have chosen the easiest way to mitigate risks by using the statement you saw. It's totally wrong, so this point has been already removed. Definitely, it's our responsibility to check such things, and we failed there. I am sorry to see that users have found such mistakes while we were working in other directions following one of the most strict compliance - Educational. You can check that on another page https://nimbusweb.me/security.php  The Legal Language is a completely different beast, and we will pay extra attention to the sections created a long time ago.

 

Our Next Steps:

• Remove the statement which is opposite to the real situation (already done);
• Update the terms section to ensure users are well informed about all the permissions they grant to us to provide a service.

I just received the same response too from them too. They do respond which is nice by the way.

I am going to continue to experiment with it until V10 speeds up for me.

1 hour ago, toao said:

deleted the data, uninstalled the app, re-installed it and started new with a new and empty account I had registered. while the app was still substantially slower than the native app, it had sped up a lot compared to the 15k notes account.

I was wondering this about the number of the notes and the size of the database. I have 28,893 notes as of this morning, so if the new electron based platform is not going to handle this, it will be a really big concern/issue for me as I cannot operate on this slowness right now. It is contradicting the purpose of a "productivity" app.

I am really sincerely hoping that the speed issue is resolved otherwise I am not sure how long V6.25 will be in service and working. Time will tell.

Related to this subject, I know there has been talks about making all platforms look and feel the same which is really great but I never realized (watching the behind the scene videos) that the windows app will almost become like a web based app. Not sure if I missed it but this was really a shock for me to see how much it slowed down. I was never a fan of the web app since I had the same problem but I always used the web app so not a big deal for me. I think if you are not a heavy user like with 10K + notes, then web app thus the similar electron v10 app would work for majority of the people but for rest of us, I think it will present a major issue to resolve.

On 10/18/2020 at 2:58 AM, logandb said:

I recently received an email (presumably automated) from the CEO/founder asking how I was finding Nimbus after downloaded it.  I quoted the same clause in my response and I'll post here if I receive any clarification.

I emailed him about some feature requests and comments, "he" (if that is him) did reply to me which was nice. I will also ask him the same question too, see what he will respond with.

19 minutes ago, hanseric said:

When that is resolved

Do you think it will be resolved? I mean this is probably a fundamental issue with the app right? It is not like they released it on purpose to be slow and then they can "open it up" to be faster? I am not a software developer so I don't know but it does worry me.

I think people (including developers I assume) are focused on the lack of features so it makes me more worried about the future of Evernote for me.

And if this windows app is the "mirror" of the web app of Evernote, I am not sure if they are going to try to address it as I have always found the web app to be too slow for me. 

5 minutes ago, DrFrankBuck said:

I use the date/time shortcut frequently inside notes. (Control + semicolon).

In the new Windows desltop software, I see on the list of keyboard shortcuts that Shift + Alt+ D inserts date and time.

 

For me, it's inserting the date but no time. Does anyone have any insight into this point?

I use the CTRL + ; myself a lot.

For the new version, Try CTRL + SHIFT + D for the time.

2 hours ago, Lemayp said:

I wished the installation of Evernote 10 would have been done directly in parallel to the previous version only.  This way I wouldn't have lost my original setup and could have experienced the new version in parallel with the several year version I had customized the way I want. 

I got really lucky with this. I was installing it on a work computer on the remote desktop. So I did not have admin access, when the removal utility asked for the password, I hit cancel since IT wasn't around. So it did not remove it and I have both installed.

That would have made me even more mad, if I had to get 6.25 reinstalled and recreate my setup, so I get the frustration of the users for sure.

15 hours ago, t8769 said:

Nimbus - is it any good?

This new version is so bad I am going to have to cancel my subscription and move elsewhere. 

I am using the old version of Evernote for now, I hope it continues. 
The 'upgrade' is terrible.

I just paid for the monthly subscription to test it out. $4.99/month...worth the risk for sure.

There are definitely features that I would love to have in Evernote. Right now there are keyboard shortcuts for a lot of the stuff I would use

What I like is the separate side area for the tasks you can create. I thought it was a really good idea. 

You can add blocks to the "Above, right, left, below" which is neat and you can have different background colors for those blocks.

What is lacking from my workflow is that if you add an Excel file to the note, you cannot open it within the note, you have to download it. I keep some Excel files in Evernote that I can access from anywhere without having to use a cloud storage like DropBox etc. so Evernote is definitely better there.

Evernote has the card view, there is only list view in Nimbus. 

I was not able to open a note in a separate window, so Evernote has the advantage there.

But if you are comparing V10, the speed of Nimbus is way better (for my setup at least) since I cannot really use Evernote v10 right now with the delay.

Oh, I like the color tagging of the notes for sure, another good organization tool.

Still testing both out.

On 10/14/2020 at 12:36 PM, hanseric said:

Detailed some of them here in my blog.

• Speed. I’m getting 3-6 second lags when I do something simple like click on a note or using Ctrl+N for a new note. That’s gonna add up for me. I move fast in this app (or used to anyway).

This one is HUGE for me. I, too, move very fast in this app (through all the apps actually) and I can live with lack of features (to a certain extent) if I have to (which I wouldn't want to if other apps provide it) but I CANNOT live with an app that is soooooo slow and not responsive.

Right now, I click nothing happens, wait for the delay then I see a response. That is really not going to work. I SINCERELY hope they can find a solution to this as my life is also in Evernote. I know 6.25 is not going to be here forever thus I am worried about V10.

2 hours ago, JackiB said:

I'm not demanding perfection but I hardly call it an "improved" when there are new features and gone are some very useful ones that I bet didn't have complaints. I can't center my tables anymore, the "options" button is gone from the tool tab or at least I can't find it in the new version. I can't print preview my notes, can't set the font/size or preferences I had in the old one. The title now is the actual note when its much better separated to organize the notes themselves. If these things are available please let me know, because it isn't user friendly nor is the help when asking about these features

I hear ya. I am not a fan of V10 at all. What you quoted above was from my post in 2018.

V10 wasn’t even a possibility back then. Those were the good times....before the dark times.....before the empire (some Star Wars reference for non-fans)

21 hours ago, righteousdork said:

Can you navigate around the app using the keyboard only?  Moving between the note list, into a note's metadata, into the note itself, and back out again.

You cannot get into the note editor with the keyboard. You can move around with the TAB pretty much everywhere which is nice but not being able to get "in" the note is the most important part of the keyboard moving. 

If you are within the note, you can CTRL + TAB into the title but once you leave the title with another CTRL + TAB, you cannot get back with the TAB. It takes you to the reminder and tag area now instead of going back.

If they can fix the speed and this keyboard, it will be a lot better for me as a start.

1 minute ago, Mike P said:

I'm in Windows 10 using Evernote 10.0.10. Selecting notes by ctrl clicking notes in the note list gives me the following. Exactly as described by @Jon/t

Interesting choice of screenshot of the notes "EN alternative" tag. 

1 hour ago, simonvlc said:

Basically you need to activate one checkbox that will apply the dark mode to window title bars. 

Thanks! It was bothering me too and now it is fixed. Small victories.  

3 hours ago, Mike P said:

Or you can always use the search syntax in any order.

Yup, which is what I do, however, the suggestion or the new search is built for the non-power user so they don't need to know the search syntax. Thus, I would think you should be able to get a recommendation for a tag or a notebook, whichever order you are typing in the search box as a regular user.

3 hours ago, Mike P said:

You can't add notebooks either after adding a tag.

Interesting, I did not try that one. I think it will be easier for the basic user if there is not a "rule" to follow in the search.

One thing I noticed you have to type the tags first for it to recognize.

So let's say you are typing TAG 1...it will recognize it and you can add it by tapping the top arrow. Then let's say you typed a word you are looking for, then hit space, now if you try another tag you have, that TAG 2 will not be recognized as a suggestion. 

Basically, type in your tags up front, select the ones, then type in the word you are looking for last.

On 10/10/2020 at 10:55 AM, MarcSant said:

Please, if you noted some another missing feature, feel free to contribute to this list.

- Lack of bunch of useful keyboard shortcuts such as F6 putting you in the search box, F2 putting you the note title

- Not being able to select more than 50 notes at a time

- CTRL + D to change the font, size, color etc. I guess part of the keyboard shortcuts above, but I use it so much that I have to type it.  

- If I pulled a note from the shortcut menu, the card view goes away and the note takes up more space which is fine but now my CTRL + 2 for example does not take me to the shortcut item. 

8 hours ago, Coffee First Thing said:

I'm exploring Notion

I am exploring Nimbus and I must say it is really awesome so far. I am missing the card view and being able to store and Excel file in the app that you can launch does not seem to work for Nimbus. But everything else, they are hitting what I wanted from Evernote.