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  1. I prefer Voltaire's attitude on disagreement: “I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it.” Reasoning through issues is always my preferred approach. I'm sorry if it came across as a personal attack, i guess that must be because i belong to the unreasonable people in this thread? As a GURU who does not use Linux, what would you consider a minimum viable client?
  2. I'm sorry but i find this comment a bit absurd from a GURU poster. If it is the responsibility of a good business to listen to its customers so that it can support them better. It is the responsibility of us as customers to inform the business of our wishes so that they can have the chance to serve us better. If Evernote think this is an unreasonable approach to customer relations, then they should probably just give up the charade of customer support and shut down the forum. Regardless of your opinion on whether i can or cannot use my subscriber relationship with Evernote to ask them to reconsider a feature i really want, the fact of the matter is that Evernote already supports a Linux platform (Android). Like the whole web service industry, it seems they have standardised on client side HTML5 UI's for their Online and Android UI's. So it looks like a low hanging fruit to an enforced web user. As this seems to be available from many cross platform out of the box technologies like Electron, which use HTML5, and were designed for just this kind of thing, i think it is only going to become easier for them to do. There are of course other half-way approaches (which i have already addressed in other posts), that would also serve *my* needs, but i also respect the wishes of the other posers who want Linux to be supported. So just to reiterate, thank you for your opinion, but i for one will continue to ask Evernote to reconsider, and extend that Linux support to non Android Linux's too.
  3. If i want to continue increasing the value and reliance of the data i store in evernote, i want to be able to backup (and restore) with confidence. That's as simple as i can put it. What i am asking for is a single supported way of backing up *all of* my evernote data, inducing history, shared documents and attachments, such that i am independent of needing the application or website if i have to investigate a backup at a later date. @DTLow, Thanks, for the tip, but i don't know what EN Note is. There is a tool called geeknote that can do something similar on any platform that supports Python (and i think C/C++?) but that is not what i am asking for. Also a Mac backup feature is not Evernote being capable of creating backups. When i assert "a backup is not a backup if it cannot be restored" what i mean is can i take that backup and use it to restore my application state back to where it was when i took the backup. How many people have even tried to restore from a backup after they have been made? not many. Its always too late to find out after the disaster that you are missing some critical piece to get up and running again. In my day job, when i backup a database, its always to a text file that the database software itself can use to restore the structure and content such that the application using that application using the database is in the same state as when the it was backed up. That is how you manage data with any value. Another mantra of managing data with value is the classic 3-2-1 backup rule: Have at least three copies of your data. Store the copies on two different media. Keep one backup copy offsite. I have no idea how to manage the 3-2-1 rule with evernote without keeping backups of the application and operating system it is running on. I guess i could run evernote in a virtual machine, and keep that VM under backup, but seriously WTF? @piotroxp Please to not make this about Linux, I started there, but its not about that to me any more. What i am asking for is backup and restore in text, of my historical information and attachments. The reason i specify a version control system is because this is exactly what they have been designed to do and git is the best version control system for the job (in my humble opinion). I'm a Linux user and Windows user. I want evernote to be a tool i can use anywhere, but that is too much to expect from evernote. There is very little return on investment for them for non mainstream platforms, i mean who wants to support whatever the Tesla roadster runs on :). But seriously, see my response to @DTLow. The fact that a cross platform version control system has the fringe benefit of (assuming it was done right) making support for non windows/mac users, much, much easier, is no longer relevant to me. The epiphany i had was i don't care any more about that cross platform problem, its not the problem i actually want to solve. I want to know that if i invest the time and money into using evernote for anything other than a toy, then i can do so with confidence. I love that evernote has its own version control of my source documents. its part of what makes the service valuable to me. As wikipedia states: I propose git, but any tool would work, because as already stated, that is exactly what they were designed to do.
  4. I have created a feature request thread that address backups and restoration using git. With a git repository as the source, i can imagine it would be possible to create a Jekyll plugin or similar.
  5. I have created a feature request thread to address backups and restoration using git. This would make it easer to detect changes between versions. Search for git backup if you think this is a reasonable approach, and give some feedback.
  6. This is kind of related, I have created a feature request thread to address backups and restoration in a generic manner. The basic idea is to use git backup, a well known distributed version control system, to enable backup and restore of notes. Search for git backup if you think this is a reasonable feature, and give some feedback.
  7. I have created a feature request thread to address backups and restoration. The basic idea is to use git backup, a version control system, to enable backup and restore of notes. They can export the notes in version controlled EML or similar, and, restore from same. Search for git backup if you think this is a reasonable approach, and give some feedback.
  8. This is a related topic, I have created a feature request thread to address backups. The idea is to use a version controlled system based on the imported/exported date (search for git backup). If you think it is a good idea then chip in.
  9. As a premium subscriber - I want evernote to make my versioned notebooks available in evernote markup as git repositories. The minimum implementation would be a daily cron or similar to export/update a personal read-only git repo for version controlled backups. A backup is not a backup if it cannot be restored, it is an archive at best. Next step is to allow me to restore my evernote information from my Evernote git repository. The rationale: I have an easy backup mechanism - running git clone on a regular basis. Anyone who can use git, will want (and understand) this feature, which would be amazing for Windows, OsX, and Linux It makes it easier for people to do whatever they want with regards to personal automation around their evernote notes. It will lower the barrier for innovation on evernote content on all platforms. If write access allowed, It makes it easier to use any other external text/xml manipulation tool to update evernote. Make it easier to detect and track changes in your documents, as git is a mature tool for this, and so are the tools that use it. This "git backup" feature has the side benefit of making it easier for mature 3rd party tools on unsupported platforms e.g. Linux, OpenBSD, or anywhere GUI's fail, but git works!. That's it. This is what i am campaigning for now.
  10. I've been waiting for this for years, but now I think i have a different approach. One which may be the best in the short term, and something which "kills two birds with one stone" as it makes linux support more of a fringe benefit to a larger customer wish, backups. I want evernote to make my versioned notebooks available in evernote markup as git repositories. And to allow me to update my evernote information from these git repositories. That's it. This is what i am campaigning for now. The rationale: I have an easy backup mechanism - running git clone on a regular basis. Anyone who can use git, will want (and understand) this feature, which would be amazing for Windows, OsX, and Linux. We can then use any other external tool to manipulate EML, and evernote. Even better, i make it easier for linux people (and other computer (ab)users to do whatever they want with regards to automation around my evernote notes. Lowers the barrier for 3rd party integration and innovation on all platforms. So I'm going to create a separate feature request thread on this topic, and I'd appreciate if Linux client wishers gave to +1 it.
  11. Hi, I undertsand that these bare application evernote links can be used in this way, this is almost what i am looking for. If i look at the anatomy of a bare evernote URI I can see these GET paramaters: https://www.evernote.com/Home.action?_sourcePage=&__fp=&hpts=&showSwitchService=&login=&login=&username=&hptsh=&b=&ses=&sh=&sdsAll i need is a single get parameter token that i can use to represent a page, such that when i use that URI, the web application will start with that Note or Notebook open in front of me.
  12. Hi, I've not see this in the RTFM, or anywhere else, so asking here. I would like to be able to link directly to a note or notebook with a URI. This is so i can cut/paste URI's into other applications to refer to a particilar note/notebook without having to explicitly make something a public link. e.g. https://www.evernote.com/Link.action?note=#PAGEID or: https://www.evernote.com/Link.action?notebook="bookname" Where bookID/Name would work if the link was used by someone else who already has share access to the document. Is this possible? if so, how do i cerate such a link.
  13. Can i suggest geeknote? http://www.geeknote.me/ It is a python script (so should run on windows and mac?) has a sync tool that allows you to export your evernotes to markdown text files. You can cron it to keep an export of your evernote repository. It might solve some of your issues.
  14. So I'm playing catchup a bit here. to be honest this thread is a bit of a TLDR, as it started in 2009!. Can i suggest the moderators split this thread out into years, or archive the old posts, as the state of the art has moved on since then First I +1 the linux client, Second my suggestion for Linux tools to check out: Everyone who wants a third party native GUI linux client pile onto Nixnote2 (https://github.com/baumgarr/Nixnote2), which is a QT port of nixnote (which was Java).There is also Everpad (which is also QT, but PyQT) is not as feature complete, but is more lightweight, and also getting there (https://github.com/nvbn/everpad/) is worth checking out.For the command line people among us linux guys, there is also geeknote (https://github.com/VitaliyRodnenko/geeknote/) which is a python command line utility to manipulate your evernote document repository export/sync and them as markdown files.FWIW, here is my .02 eurocents worth on the toolkit discussion. I know there is/was a commitment in evernote development to use a 'platform native' UI technolgy. I can understand some of the reasoning is so that you can use the UI features to the 'full' extent. I honestly think this approach is interesting, from a user experience point of view, but probably a pain to maintain. Also the nature of HTML5, XUL, etc, all point to UI design toolkits and widgetsets becoming a shared commodity (apart from Apple of course, because it is a key part of their value proposition, that everything looks and acts the way they say it has to). I dont want to get into thin/thick clients, or the shared code etc that exists in evernote. but i can say from experience that i would recommend QT and QML for a cross platform C++ based UI that can be used to develop a binary for windows, linux and mac from the same codebase. That way it does not matter what you develop on, you only need to test on the target platform. Other online sevice front ends that use QT are Skype and Sotify, to show I'm not talking too much rubbish. QT is based on the MVC pattern. So, If nothing else, a tested, supported QT linux/windows/mac binary 32/64 bit C++ SDK/library for the Model would make life easier for those wanting to maintain a third party UI on any platform.
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