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  1. Saying there is no need for Evernote to reinvent the wheel because a feature exists in a competing product seems odd to me. I don't know much about Workflowy, but they explicitly consider themselves a competing alternative to Evernote per the Worflowy website (see image capture below). I'm sure each (Workflowy vs Evernote) has different features that are stronger than the other, but I'd imagine the users in this Evernote forum make suggestions to strengthen the Evernote product. I don't want to pay for two different products with a large overlap in features. Currently, Evernote still meets enough of my needs to stay a customer, but it seems a feature like the one discussed in this thread for the past 11+ years has a lot of user interest. Personally, I would have rather seen more focus on notes organization features like this instead of the addition of task management features since I already had a more robust task management services but Evernote is my main knowledge capture, organization, and archive tool. That said and somewhat unrelated I am happy that Evernote developers have recently focused on and improved the simultaneous note editing features. I realize there is only so much bandwidth for improvement. I've never used nor wanted to use Evernote as a collaboration tool (for me Google Drive still beats everyone on that and is more universally available to other I work with who don't pay for Evernote), but the much more reliable handing of multiple copies of the same note syncing due to using multiple devices has improved due to the work to improve collaborative note editing. I'm glad the Evernote team chose to focus on improving that existing feature as it relates to the multiple device syncing that existed for year instead of adding a new one.
  2. I think it could be just as useful if portions of notes could be collapsed under headings. Maybe doing that for headings instead of bullets would make the challenges related to synchronization, which is speculated about in earlier replies, a bit easier to deal with on the development side if a note were broken up into pieces based on headings on the backend for synchronization purposes. That might help improve the duplicated notes I occasionally get due to synchronization conflicts too, especially with longer notes. Even though this thread is in the Windows client forum, it's a feature I'd like for the Mac client, and I suspect if it were developed it would not be Windows specific. So it is less likely to get lost, here's another thread on this topic in the General Feature request forum:
  3. I just found the post I was thinking of. This has been suggested for years but it was in the Windows client feature request forum and called Toggle list. The original post is from 2011 and replies goes on for 8 pages (at the time I'm writing this) because multiple threads on the same topic/idea were combined in 2019. Anyway, anyone finding this and likes the idea should probably go and upvote the thread here: Since the development of the Mac and Windows clients (and Web version I think) seem to have been in sync for the past couple of years due to changes in the Evernote architecture, I assume that if this change makes the development teams list in the future it will be for multiple clients.
  4. I've been an Evernote user for a fairly long time and have provided feedback as part of a few Early Access programs in the past. I feel like this collapsable bullet idea has been suggested multiple times in the past including by me. However, when I went looking for past posts (not an exhaustive search), I didn't really find that, and I found that I made my suggestion from a couple of years ago in a limited-access, Mac client, preview program group that's now closed so no longer relevant to the development team, I assume. As the suggestion obviously didn't make the cut back then, it seems like this should be a more public, general feature request. (Although, selfishly, I'd be happy even if it were just a feature in the Mac client since that's what I primarily use.) Anyway, since a spent a little time making that post over two years ago now, I reproduce it here in support of this thread. And now that headings are a thing (I don't think they existed then or were not as easy to use), being able to collapse text under headings (similar to what one can do via a collapsible text object on a Google Sites page [example]) would be useful too or instead. @Jeremy Englandand @badjer.phoenix you supported that post back then so if you still agree I welcome you to upvote this public idea thread. Originally posted by me on February 21, 2020: This is a feature I've wanted for years, and one of the main things I missed when I switched from being a OneNote user (10+ years) to an Evernote user (about 10 years now). Make it so that if you double-click on a bullet, all of the subsection bullets and text indented under that bullet will disappear. There then needs to be an indicator that there is something hidden, but double-clicking on it again, will unhide that text. I found this really helpful when I had longer documents with specific sections such as a list of tasks that each had step-by-step directions for something. I could keep the directions collapsed/hidden to not clutter the note but I could still easily see an overview of everything in a document. I tried (and have somewhat) reproduced this in Evernote by using multiple notes, but that is often unnecessary, extra work.
  5. The ctrl/cmd keystroke shortcut to invoke shortcuts is a good tip as I already have that "index" tag as a shortcut. Like many others, I still would prefer not having to spend extra time reorganizing my project or meeting notes into separate note documents so I still support this feature request, but thanks PinkElephant for the that shortcut tip as it is helpful.
  6. I've tried that and use it as a workaround in some cases now as it is not a bad idea. (I also agree that it's better for syncing.) However, a major downside I find is when I go searching for a particular note, I generally get a lot more hits because the "subsections"/shorter notes generally have the same important keywords. I've also started tagging the master documents/TOCs with an "index" tag. Of course, now that means when I try to go and find a note, in addition to the keyword search I need to add a filter, which is a bit slow and cumbersome. I would also find is very useful to be able to collapse text under a header or under bullets in my daily workflow.
  7. One way to partially address this would be for the interface to show the last few modified notes. Some of the compelling use cases for merging that I've seen folks post are when someone wants to collect a bunch of things together as part of an online research process. That would involve a bunch of frequent clips over and over again. However, the target notes would be getting modified each time so would stay on the recent list. I will concede that the way merging notes works now (as opposed to how it worked when I supported this suggestion over four years ago) does make it more reasonable to merge after the fact when not needing to do this a lot. However, it's still often very inconvenient (and kind of slow) to come up with a search that will get both notes to appear in the results so they can both be selected for merging.
  8. I posted this on the possible bugs forum, but if it's not a bug, then I request a new feature where I can set a preference. While using the Mac app (not the web app), when I drag a note into another note to create a link, which is something I do a LOT, the link created is a web link instead of an app link. If this is a bug, I'm notifying you to add to your list of things to fix. If this is intended behavior, then I make the feature request to give me an option I can set somewhere so that all links to notes that I copy and paste are app links instead of web links. I use the APP links everywhere -- inside the app and when pasting into other programs like my task manager. By the way, I know how to use the copy internal link option to copy an app link as a workaround. Thanks and keep up the good work.
  9. This applies to the Mac Evernote app. When I drag a note into another note to create a link, which is something I do a LOT, the link created is a web link instead of an app link. I don't use the web app so I have to go in and edit the link each time by copying the app link from the one note and then paste it into the link in the other note. I assume the intended default behavior is that an app link is created when working inside of the app. I believe I am using the latest public released version of the client at the time I posted this: 10.21.5-mac-ddl-public (2931) Editor: v131.1.16771 Service: v1.39.1
  10. I'd be very, very happy if Evernote just stopped converting checkboxes that are the first character of a bulleted (circle) list to a checklist. I've been using checkboxes that way for years in Evernote as just a visual toggle on directions I use over and over again and also refer to as reference material. If I want a checklist, I will pick the checklist option instead of bullet option as it's right there with one-click on the editing tool bar (on Mac) where the checkbox is an extra click under the + menu I have to go back and redo every time it gets auto converted. What makes this feel more like a but then a feature is that it seems to coverts it after is saves to the server so when you switch to between notes, for example. I do some work in one note including adding checkBoxes then I go do something else and come back and they've been coverted to checklist. (annoying!). Not doing this automatic conversion keeps the product working the way it has for years while still allowing one to choose the newer checklist feature. A work around I just started using is putting a period before the checkbox as this started really annoying me again (as I go through and revise and perform a bunch of annual procedure for the start of the school year).
  11. Since merging after the fact is supported (as mentioned above) as is appending to a note via email, someone on Evernote's team thought there was value in allowing the appending to notes those two ways many years ago as I've used those features for many years. Therefore, it's not a big leap to include that ability in the web clipper if you are talking about Evernote's philosophy. (What the developers have time to do and what is a priority is a different argument.) Evernote is a fairly blank slate tool that seems designed to support different workflows for different people. Clipping a note into an existing note is obviously a workflow that is useful to some customers given the age of and activity on this thread. Obviously, no one for whom that's not part of their workflow would be required to append notes. However, those folks shouldn't dictate what's an appropriate workflow for others.
  12. I believe i'm running the lastest Mac version as of the time I posted this: v 10.2.4 build 1949 public Editor: v111.0.14414 Service: v1.21.2 A note I just updated duplicated after I added some text near the top and changed formatting by adding heading styles. I know this is a problem that's cropped up before so I"m reporting so the devs know there's still a bug related to this there somewhere. During the Beta or Preview (I don't remember which) this happened when pasting in images. I did not paste in an image but I did paste in formatted text including an external link to a Google Doc from one Evernote note to another. I can't say for sure that the duplication happened at exactly that time, but I only made a small number of changes to the note that duplicated. I did get the warning about the duplicate, which is when I noticed.
  13. Maybe but I don't think so. Since if I have two items in a bulleted list that have a checkbox at the beginning of them, they don't get automatically changed to a check list. Sounds more like a bug to me than intended behavior. It's certainly not what I expect as a user since if I wanted. check list, I would have chose check list, not spent the time to format something as a bulleted list then added a checkbox. Also, checklist and checkboxes must be implemented different as one causes strikeout and the other just checks the box. One of the reasons I don't use checklist, is I don't want strikeout in many cases.
  14. This is a feature I've wanted for years, and one of the main things I missed when I switched from being a OneNote user (10+ years) to an Evernote user (about 10 years now). While I'd accept it being inserted like a code block as suggested, I would prefer to see this implemented a bit more naturally as it is in OneNote. Make it so that if you double-click on a bullet, all of the subsection bullets and text indented under that will bullet disappear. There then needs to be an indicator that there is something hidden, but double-clicking on it again, will unhide that text. I found this really helpful when I had longer notes with specific sections such as a list of tasks that each had step-by-step directions for something. I could keep the directions collapsed/hidden to not clutter the note but I could still easily see an overview of everything in a note. I tried (and have somewhat) reproduced this in Evernote by using multiple notes, but that is often unnecessary, extra work. Here's a visual of what I described:
  15. I can reproduce this reliably if the checkbox is at the beginning of a bulleted list with one item. See the line that begins with "If not" in the attached screen recording. FullSizeRender.mov IMG_0297.MP4
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