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Collapse nested bullet points


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I take a lot of notes with bullet points, and it'd be super helpful if I could collapse all sub-points under a main point.

Even better if I can also collapse paragraphs under headings. 

It just makes longer notes sooooo much easier to manage.

I like this ability in Notion and Roam Research, although text editors like TexMaker can also do it.

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On 5/3/2022 at 12:21 PM, HumbleAmbition said:

I take a lot of notes with bullet points, and it'd be super helpful if I could collapse all sub-points under a main point.

Even better if I can also collapse paragraphs under headings. 

It just makes longer notes sooooo much easier to manage.

I like this ability in Notion and Roam Research, although text editors like TexMaker can also do it.

I would absolutely love the possibility to collapse text. Dropbox Paper's implementation is quite good. Anything under a heading (#, ##, or ###) can be automatically collappsed and a link to that section is available. Also, this automatically creates a navigation pane, like Google docs does. 

 

The value of this approach, to me and our company workflow, is that it allows us to create content, discuss it 'live' on the document with clients, and only show the part we are currently focused on. On longer notes, it also is much easier to navigate. 

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I've been an Evernote user for a fairly long time and have provided feedback as part of a few Early Access programs in the past. I feel like this collapsable bullet idea has been suggested multiple times in the past including by me. However, when I went looking for past posts (not an exhaustive search), I didn't really find that, and I found that I made my suggestion from a couple of years ago in a limited-access, Mac client, preview program group that's now closed so no longer relevant to the development team, I assume. As the suggestion obviously didn't make the cut back then, it seems like this should be a more public, general feature request. (Although, selfishly, I'd be happy even if it were just a feature in the Mac client since that's what I primarily use.)

Anyway, since a spent a little time making that post over two years ago now, I reproduce it here in support of this thread. And now that headings are a thing (I don't think they existed then or were not as easy to use), being able to collapse text under headings (similar to what one can do via a collapsible text object on a Google Sites page [example]) would be useful too or instead.

@Jeremy Englandand @badjer.phoenix you supported that post back then so if you still agree I welcome you to upvote this public idea thread.

Originally posted by me on February 21, 2020:

This is a feature I've wanted for years, and one of the main things I missed when I switched from being a OneNote user (10+ years) to an Evernote user (about 10 years now).

Make it so that if you double-click on a bullet, all of the subsection bullets and text indented under that bullet will disappear.  There then needs to be an indicator that there is something hidden, but double-clicking on it again, will unhide that text. 

I found this really helpful when I had longer documents with specific sections such as a list of tasks that each had step-by-step directions for something. I could keep the directions collapsed/hidden to not clutter the note but I could still easily see an overview of everything in a document. I tried (and have somewhat) reproduced this in Evernote by using multiple notes, but that is often unnecessary, extra work.

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In general I support outlining as a interesting idea - see this as a workaround, but IMHO a good one:

The approach in EN is probably to create a number of shorter notes. You can then select them and create a TOC table of content note to navigate.

This will allow to break an issue down into single snippets as well, while the integrity is maintained.

It is better for syncing as well - having everything in one long note means it will sync the whole note, even if just a small part was edited.

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On 5/3/2022 at 12:21 PM, HumbleAmbition said:

I take a lot of notes with bullet points, and it'd be super helpful if I could collapse all sub-points under a main point.

Even better if I can also collapse paragraphs under headings. 

It just makes longer notes sooooo much easier to manage.

I like this ability in Notion and Roam Research, although text editors like TexMaker can also do it.

Thanks PinkElephant. Appreciate the suggestion. I believe this can be a work around. However, for everyday use I don't think it would be a suitable substitution, obviously, for my oen needs. Might be the perfect soluition for somebody else. Thanks a lot. m. 

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On 6/16/2022 at 8:48 AM, PinkElephant said:

In general I support outlining as a interesting idea - see this as a workaround, but IMHO a good one:

The approach in EN is probably to create a number of shorter notes. You can then select them and create a TOC table of content note to navigate.

This will allow to break an issue down into single snippets as well, while the integrity is maintained.

It is better for syncing as well - having everything in one long note means it will sync the whole note, even if just a small part was edited.

I've tried that and use it as a workaround in some cases now as it is not a bad idea. (I also agree that it's better for syncing.) However, a major downside I find is when I go searching for a particular note, I generally get a lot more hits because the "subsections"/shorter notes generally have the same important keywords.  I've also started tagging the master documents/TOCs with an "index" tag. Of course, now that means when I try to go and find a note, in addition to the keyword search I need to add a filter, which is a bit slow and cumbersome.

I would also find is very useful to be able to collapse text under a header or under bullets in my daily workflow.

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Tag:IndexNote added to the search term would do the job, if the tag is named IndexNote.

You can even make it a saved search and create a shortcut, and if it is one of the first shortcuts (say the fourth), call it by typing ctrl/cmd - 4 . Then just add the search term, and hit enter.

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19 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Tag:IndexNote added to the search term would do the job, if the tag is named IndexNote.

You can even make it a saved search and create a shortcut, and if it is one of the first shortcuts (say the fourth), call it by typing ctrl/cmd - 4 . Then just add the search term, and hit enter.

The ctrl/cmd keystroke shortcut to invoke shortcuts is a good tip as I already have that "index" tag as a shortcut.

Like many others, I still would prefer not having to spend extra time reorganizing my project or meeting notes into separate note documents so I still support this feature request, but thanks PinkElephant for the that shortcut tip as it is helpful.

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I just found the post I was thinking of. This has been suggested for years but it was in the Windows client feature request forum and called Toggle list. The original post is from 2011 and replies goes on for 8 pages (at the time I'm writing this) because multiple threads on the same topic/idea were combined in 2019.  Anyway, anyone finding this and likes the idea should probably go and upvote the thread here:

Since the development of the Mac and Windows clients (and Web version I think) seem to have been in sync for the past couple of years due to changes in the Evernote architecture, I assume that if this change makes the development teams list in the future it will be for multiple clients.

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