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Wanderling

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  1. I speculated that Evernote may end up in Google's caring hands weeks ago in that monstrous thread that just refused to die. There's far more difference between Keep and Evernote than just the interface. Support for attachments is the biggest one, for me at least. Can't have a serious information manager without attachment support. There's also a number of interface quirks. Google has that tendency of unraveling a product with great fanfare, then letting it linger in shadows for years without development. It took years for Keep to get simple tags / labels, and there's still no such basic feature as integration with Google Drive. You can't search for a Keep note from Drive, and you can't search for a Drive document from Keep. That's in Google ecosystem that's supposed to be all about finding stuff. So Google snatching EN seems pretty logical - they get an established service with a large user base, and EN gets to survive. Of course Google is all about having access to your data... so some adjustments would have to be made. But this does seem like a very logical way out for EN.
  2. OneNote is tightly integrated with Outlook and a number of users who wouldn't pay $60 or so a year for Evernote Premium or OneNote alone would probably consider paying that to get MS Office and 1 TB of cloud storage on top of all OneNote functionality. Or, at some point, they will run out of free space and pay $24 / year for extra OneDrive storage. Or, some of them will buy a Surface because they are heavy ON users and ON is a central part of Surface experience. Or, they will just be more inclined to look at other MS products, or recommend them to others. There's a number of ways in which an essential service like ON may generate added revenue while remaining free. EN can't probably afford this model. And it's understandable. But their problem is not having an added value package that would compel more users to switch to a paid subscription even while there is so much free competition. Instead they are cutting services to free users and raising prices for paid ones without adding any more value to the product they provide. This is either a deliberate short term milking attempt or someone is smoking a very potent stuff.
  3. Non paying for the service that for many doesn't offer enough value over it's free competition. The same people may be spending enough money on Windows Store Apps, Xbox games and consoles, Office 360 subscription (that offers quite a bit of value, for whomever needs a full blown always up to date Office suite and 1 TB of cloud storage, plus free Evernote alternative, for about as much as EN Premium). Plus Bing searches. Plus potentially considering a Surface tablet which was pretty much designed around OneNote. Plus potentially at some point deciding to stick with Windows vs switching to Apple or Linux, or buying an Xbox over a PlayStation, because they are so invested in MS ecosystem, of which OneNote is now a major part. There's a good reason why about two years ago MS made OneNote for desktop free and started heavily developing and pushing it on all major platforms. Before that it was an excellent but rather obscure desktop product for about a decade. So I believe MS is salivating right now over all these non-paying EN users who are still likely to pay for games, store apps, and run Bing searches that bring ad money.
  4. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/04/france-electronic-spying-operation-nsa https://gigaom.com/2014/05/31/german-spies-want-400m-to-play-catch-up-with-the-nsa/ https://theintercept.com/2014/04/30/gchq-prism-nsa-fisa-unsupervised-access-snowden/ http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2276747/exposed-gchqs-secret-plan-to-tap-the-worlds-phone-and-internet-traffic http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/nsa-europeans-spying_n_4179632.html Just because they didn't get as much publicity, doesn't mean they aren't playing the same games. Actually until 9/11 the French were the most notorious for their brazen use of surveillance. Back in the early 2000 we were warned to not review any sensitive business documents while flying Air France and to remember that some of their air crew members were trained in fast reading the upside down text. And then of course you have the Chinese whose electronic data collection operation dwarfs even the NSA. I noticed that the Europeans are raised to believe that they have the best consumer protection laws, the best quality food, the best environmental standards etc. While there's much truth in it, a lot of this is also pure political marketing. E.g. in the wake of Volkswagen's emission scandal, some German newspapers described the US emission standards as "too tough" and "unrealistic" in order to explain why VW felt the need to cheat. While at the same time probably telling their citizens they had the best environmental laws in the world. A few years ago I had a friend living in Germany tell me she would never drink any Californian wine because it contained sulfites, wile the European wine didn't. Not only that, but she claimed that the evil American corporation force the Europeans to add sulfites to their wines sold in the US. All because the labels on the wine bottles destined for the US stated "contains sulfites" while the same wine sold in Europe didn't say that. Of course the real reason was that the US laws demanded mandatory labeling of sulfites, and the European laws didn't, at that time at least. The wine was exactly the same. Anyway, if you don't want your data read by someone you don't trust, don't put it in the cloud.
  5. Given that both XMind on the desktop and iThoughts on iOS support file attachments in nodes, rather easy. Drag & drop. You don't get a searcheable OCR inside that receipt. Same way you do it in Evernote. Actually multiple ways - see the screenshot from iOS client (I use it much more often than the desktop, simply because my IPad Mini is always within reach). I can photo the receipt from inside ON and insert in the page as a searcheable image, which is exactly what I do with receipts. If I have an existing file (e.g. PDF), I have two ways to insert it - either as a searcheable "printout" on the ON page (I.e.every page of that file is searcheable, visible and readable in ON), or as a file attachment (no searches inside file, takes much less screen real estate). I pick whatever method I need - e.g. for credit card statements, there's no reason for me to search inside, so I use the file attachment method to minimize the amount of scrolling. Inserting any kind of document can be done either from another program by "sending" or "printing" that file to ON, or from within ON. There's also an option to email to "me@onenote.com" email address, in which case it saves the email with all attachments as a new page in a preset default location (notebook / section). The second screenshot shows the same file inserted both ways, as an attachment and as a searcheable printout.
  6. If it works for you, great. To me, this is not the same as a structured, visually organized way to present data. In this respect I prefer a mind mapper to One Note and One Note to Evernote.
  7. Well, no single tool works for all. Most of the PDF's that I need to search would be below 100 pages. And a limitation of OneNote is that you can't search inside encrypted and locked sections without unlocking them (which kind of makes sense from a security perspective). However you can encrypt individual sections, which is a very useful approach. Don't own Mac so don't know about OneNote for Mac, there's however a very well featured OneNote client for Mac called Outline+. I used it on iOS before MS started putting the features I was missing into their native client. The Outline+ had several advantages over Onenote, one being the ability to sync from Dropbox or some other cloud services. If I bought a Mac I'd seriously start looking into O+. As for the offline support for mobile - Onenote downloads the entire file so it's always offline. Onedrive and GD do only allow individual files to be "offlined" to mobile, which may be a problem if you need thousands of them.
  8. Well, I've had a long journey finding information management product that I like. I have the following criteria: 1) Ease of adding various kinds of data 2) Ease of finding it 3) Ability to access and edit your info across various systems and devices. Especially Windows - iOS - Android, but Linux is a plus. 4) An online client is a bonus, for when I have to access my data from a locked down station at work 5) Ability to access data offline 6) Planning tools 7) Organized structure 8) Low cost or better else free. 9) Secure (ability to encrypt your data individually) So in my experience: A. Evernote - great on ##1, 2, 3 ,4, somewhat good on 8 if you accept the limitations of a free version. #9 was unavailable in a free version, don't know about paid one. A way around this would be to encrypt your data via a 3rd party tool (e.g. a KeePass database, or just inside an AES encrypted zip file if it's something not super sensitive - like a credit card statement) and then upload it. But couldn't get past #6 and 7. I had a huge steaming pile of data that I didn't even know about and I felt lost, even with all the tagging. B. OneNote - this is what I am using now, after Microsoft started putting some real effort into pushing it across platforms. Kudos to them, they did some great work especially on iOS client. It's very well done. Android client is OK, good features but I don't quite like the interface. Handwriting is very useful, although I prefer other apps for that. And of course there's their web client. To me ON has all of the advantages of EN, + great #7, #5, #9 and some ability for #6. And the Outlook integration is good. C. Before committing to OneNote, I used a mind mapping approach - a free Xmind client on Windows, a paid ($9 or so) iThoughs apps on iOS, and a free version of Mindmeister on Android. The strongest part of this approach was #6, planning. There's simply no better way to plan your project than using a mind map, especially with Xmind and iThought's ability to zoom in on various topics. #9 would be done via same 3rd party approach (although the paid version of Xmind has encryption). As a data gathering tool it was also decent, although there were several major reasons I gave up on it: no advance search / filtering on the desktop unless I paid for a full blown Xmind client (although iThoughts did provide good search), no search inside PDF files, no attachments access on Android (although I didn't spend enough time trying to find a better Android client), and no online cloud client. However as I said, the planning feature and organizational features were great and even better than Onenote's. D. This is kind of an obvious and easiest solution that for some reason most people seem to not get. Google Drive or OneDrive. Just save your documents there. You get OCR search inside PDFs and jpegs, you get organizational structure via file folders, and you get offline abilities. And obviously it's a cross platform solution since it can be accessed on any web connected device. Same approach to encryption - encrypt it before you upload it. If I ever start having problems with ON I will most likely just move all my info to OneDrive (only because I prefer Online Office to Google Docs).
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