notetakeingguy

First, appreciate all the responses. Just to clarity, I DO attempt to use v10 on my personal computer. I just find it harder. For example, when I do a search, it wants to search one notebook, and I want to search all. I also hate that most articles I clip are in this HTML view and I have to convert it. The version I am using is Evernote_6.25.1.9091. Do you think it would help if I uninstall and reinstall that version? If I go to the next legacy version, what is the exact version number? On FileHippo, I don't see anything after the one I have before v10.

I have Evernote 6.25 on both my work and personal computer, and also Evernote 10 on my personal computer. Today, my work computer wouldn't sync. I stupidely logged out and now can't get back in. My personal computer is working fine. I fear maybe my work added something, I don't know. Both computers are Windows 10. I hope tomorrow is better, otherwise I've lost Evernote on my work computer. Evernote 10 didn't work well on my work computer with attachments a year ago. And I prefer Evernote 6.25, as much as I try to use Evernote 10 on my personal computer.

Thanks everyone for the response. What I notice though is that it says the note or notebook has been downloaded offline, but when I go to open it, it says the note is unavailable. The notebook only has about 20 notes, all pretty simple notes. It did update pretty fast once it did the initial download. However, it says it is all downloaded, then I'm offline (which happens a lot since I'm in a foreign country) and try to open it, and it says not available, even though it shows the symbol has offline downloaded. I put in a support ticket but I got the standard response of restarting the system, etc, along with a different note about changes in their customer service.

And my support ticket from 2 months ago, still not addressed: 3755402

I thought he was referring to when you want to setup a notebook for offline access. I set a notebook up last night, 161 text notes, and it still hasn't completely downloaded overnight.

I know this is an old post, but I'm experiencing this for the first time being that I'm out of the country and trying to use Evernote to read. Awful for my poor work phone. Luckily, my personal phone is still the old Evernote and works good. I had just wanted the new Evernote to change some of the colors of my highlighting.

I think they did it so less of us premium members will quit because we're so frustrated with the product. I have a support ticket I submitted months ago, and when I checked an update they said they were ready to implement a solution. But I have not heard anything. I think Evernote will have a huge hack, because that's what happens, karma wise, the companies that treat their customers so bad. I also sent a note to Frederico months ago about all the difficulties I've had with windows and Android. No response, and nothing has changed.

I got the message again on my Evernote Android to fill out the survey. This time the link to work, so I copied my message from above into it.

Thank you for helping me create a response that is more accurate/complete for the developers. I have edited my post and included a picture too. Some of the edits are also below: On #2, are you suggesting that if I converted to the new Evernote on all my devices, they may pull up faster? 2) Notes open faster (I've waited many minutes before, and when I need a note I need it NOW). For example, in Step 5 below, I had to open the note several times, and in one instance, I waited for 5 minutes to open, finally hitting the back key and trying to open it again. And it still won't open. Wow, I've been editing this post 15 minutes now wrestling with getting these notes with PDFs to open! 3) removed, it is possible (offline reading) 4) Fewer clicks to highlight text; that was a recent change and it is awful. I like to read and highlight articles on Evernote, and it is now taking too many clicks. To explain, first you have to click Edit, and lose 1/3 of the screen with the window. Then you have to click the format button (Aa). Then you have to click the highlight button. Each time you highlight. On legacy Evernote, you have to click Edit, you do lose 1/3, maybe 1/2 the screen, but the highlight button is there. 5) When I open the new Evernote on my Android, the Home screen appears to reflect notes for when it was not open, not the current state based on changes I made to my Evernote database on other devices. For example, it is showing Tasks that have already been completed, and showing as the most recent note, how it was when it was last opened. Only when I click on Notes does it start syncing Evernote with changes that had been made on other devices 6) Evernote Android only allows you to open a PDF in the Evernote native App. This is a huge restriction as I prefer to open PDFs in XoDo. There have been threads about it, see here: here (1) here (2) I do see an Export, so maybe it is just more clicks? 7) Evernote Android sometimes can't even load the attachment. In trying out #6, I had one note that I uploaded yesterday where it says "Couldn't load attachment." Wow, a second one too. And I just opened them in legacy Desktop PC and Evernote 10 Desktop PC and the attachment pulls up fine. See picture showing it open in Acrobat on my computer (from Evernote) and can't open on the Android. I added a video here, if it works, though at the end when I show my computer, sorry that I flipper from portrait to landscape. PXL_20230730_135201452.TS.mp4

I was opening Evernote on my personal phone today and I saw a blue bar asking me if I could complete a 1 minute survey about why I am still using an older version. However, when I clicked it, it said the webpage could not be found. I tried multiple times. I also had a different device (my tablet) and the same thing happened. This is my way to communicate what would have been written in the survey. I use the old Evernote on my personal Android phone Evernote and my personal tablet. I use the new version of Evernote on my work phone. I prefer the older version because: 1) searches are much faster, and work 2) Notes open faster (I've waited many minutes before, and when I need a note I need it NOW). For example, in Step 5 below, I had to open the note several times, and in one instance, I waited for 5 minutes to open, finally hitting the back key and trying to open it again. And it still won't open. Wow, I've been editing this post 15 minutes now wrestling with getting these notes with PDFs to open! 3) removed, it is possible (offline reading) 4) Fewer clicks to highlight text; that was a recent change and it is awful. I like to read and highlight articles on Evernote, and it is now taking too many clicks. To explain, first you have to click Edit, and lose 1/3 of the screen with the window. Then you have to click the format button (Aa). Then you have to click the highlight button. Each time you highlight. On legacy Evernote, you have to click Edit, you do lose 1/3, maybe 1/2 the screen, but the highlight button is there. 5) When I open the new Evernote on my Android, the Home screen appears to reflect notes for when it was not open, not the current state based on changes I made to my Evernote database on other devices. For example, it is showing Tasks that have already been completed, and showing as the most recent note, how it was when it was last opened. Only when I click on Notes does it start syncing Evernote with changes that had been made on other devices 6) Evernote Android only allows you to open a PDF in the Evernote native App. This is a huge restriction as I prefer to open PDFs in XoDo. There have been threads about it, see here: here (1) here (2) I do see an Export, so maybe it is just more clicks? 7) Evernote Android sometimes can't even load the attachment. In trying out #6, I had one note that I uploaded yesterday where it says "Couldn't load attachment." Wow, a second one too. And I just opened them in legacy Desktop PC and Evernote 10 Desktop PC and the attachment pulls up fine. See picture showing it open in Acrobat on my computer (from Evernote) and can't open on the Android. So clumsy to just access notebooks and tag lists. So here I am, editing this post to explain it more detail, and pulling up Evernote, and I'm already 8 minutes in trying to get the example notes to pull up in Evernote

I'm nearing the end of my 1password trial. I do see how some things seem smoother, but on Android, LastPass seems stronger. Or maybe I just need more practice.

I'm a Quicken Windows user. Since like 1994. Sometimes OneStep update doesn't work for certain credit cards, e.g. Discover, and you don't even get an error. Lots of discussions on those boards. And calculator doesn't work great. Other user interface things. And yet they keep hiking the prices.

This is good to know. Does Notion support PC? Have web clipper? Have tags? Good searching? Have send email both into and out of?

No, no, I am not happy with Quickens 1-step unreliability vs the significant price increases

I'm a quicken user as well, and I've been so unhappy. There are bugs that still haven't been fixed, and yet they keep increasing the costs every year.

I'm on the free trial right now. So far, I like the interface and the rapidness of help. However, I don't like having to re-enter the master password everytime I close my browser. And LastPass is still doing a little better filling in apps on my phone. Meanwhile, my wife's LastPass subscription ended. They had a deal to renew, but something didn't go through. I contacted LastPass the day after, and they just closed the case with no comment or notice. Not happy with that kind of service. It comes back to the same things as Evernote -- smooth convenience so you don't have to think about it. LastPass delivers that for me. 1Password, almost (and maybe I just need a little time), but Evernote, probably last 9 years, most of the time, but not all the time, those times were unpredictable.

For me about how much it should cost based on its value to me, I'm not sure if that is fair. I benefit greatly from Evernote, Dropbox, LastPass (likely switching to 1Password soon), any.do, followupthen, feedly, Pocket, and others. If I had to pay each one for how much value I get, it would be not be affordable. Think of the value people get from Office (the money that's made from those Powerpoint slides). I think it needs to be comparable to others. I felt Evernote was not comparable because it changes too much, has too many unpredictable bugs, and had terrible customer service. And dealing with those causes me to lose productivity, often in unpredictable ways and times. About job loss and such, yes it is hard. I had a job not that long ago that gave me a choice - move 1000 miles away with a company relocation, or leave the company with severance. I had 2 months to make the decision, then 3 months to take action. I chose to relocate. My new management was hard to deal with, and regretted moving from my old location. I stuck it out 3 1/2 years, got accomplishment #1, got accomplishment #2, and got accomplishment #3, and then got out. To a new job, at much higher pay, where I am treated well. Though still in my same location, though my wife got excellent fertility care in this new location, we've had two more kids, and the oldest is doing well in the schools. I still wish I hadn't sold my house in my old location, but it was because the company offered me a relocation package. My experience is that the executives have a lot on their plate. They have to make decisions that have significant impact. While the lower ranking people do work hard, they don't always know the "why", which is what the higher ups have to do. And we trust the higher ups to make those decisions.

I looked at Bear but doesn't seem to be available for PC.

Staff may not have done too bad according this article which gives a nice history of their rise and fall: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/evernote-the-memory-app-people-forgot-about-lays-off-entire-us-staff/ [Staffers typically received 16 weeks of salary, one year of health insurance, and a pro-rated performance bonus, along with assistance for those working on visas.] I agree with you about credit and capitalism. The reason I think Ian Small was "fairly" compensated is that based on his LinkedIn profile, it seems this was he was hired to do. Get the ship in shape enough to sell out; not necessarily look out for legacy customers like ourselves. VCs wanted their money. If Evernote charged $50 / month I'd be gone too. I'd probably just export all my notes to html on OneDrive or something like that. But more importantly, it would indicate more of the same - ignoring the customers, and we see where that has landed. I still wish they would return URLs when sending a copy of a note by email. And properly lasting a Word document with bullets into Evernote.

And that's what will make it hard for me to switch from Evernote. I have 15,000 notes, all tagged very well, and very easy to find. I don't have an easy way to recreate that somewhere else.

Is there any equivalent to tags in OneNote? Namely, where one can assign multiple tags, which I use a lot. And remember, Evernote isn't gone, just all the staff. I have never been fond of how Evernote interacted with customers; creating features that worked partially, never fixing things, and ignoring customer feedback. Perhaps that will get resolved?

I use OneNote for work and where it is lacking is searching is not as easy/effective, it can't search inside documents, and tagging is really not intuitive. Tagging and searching are the two biggest things I do in Evernote, hence why it doesn't work for me. Back to the original topic of this thread, I just looked at the Linkedin of the former CEO of Evernote, and this may have been the plan: He likely got a nice golden parachute, but also, to his credit, given where Evernote was.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/evernote-layoffs-moving-to-europe-18190083.php

I still have legacy and like it better, but I also have the v10 on my computer and use it a bit too. Some of the reasons: - when I boot up Evernote, I need it fast. v10 takes forever to load - when I want to e-mail notes, I often want to E-mail multiple notes at a time, and v10 can't do that - neither includes the URL of the note at the bottom anymore, which is eliminated many versions ago. I miss this feature dearly - when importing folders/notes from a file folder, v10 doesn't delete the attachment - in 2022, on my work computer, v10 ran into lots of problems pulling up PDF files. Neither this forum nor support could help me. - in the legacu version, it is easier to get to the list of tags - I move notes a lot between folders, and I find it easier to do that on the legacy version - Huge issue on Android -- that Evernote pulls up PDF files it it's own viewer, instead of my viewer I have both on my computer, and I use them both, but find I gravitate to legacy.

As a user since 2010, I'm disappointed that bugs I've complained about (see my previous posts) not only haven't been fixed, but I get a pretty sorry response from customer service. I have no need for most of the new features, but I did have a need for pasting text from Microsoft Word to come in the right order (I've complained that bulleted text shows up before the regular text). I also am still not over that when you share a note by E-mail, the URL doesn't appear anymore like it used to. I use OneNote at work and am not happy with it. Too hard to search, and tags are too hard to use. Luckily, my renewal is May 26, so I have another year at this price. I know everyone is saying price hasn't increased since 2017, but my 2022 price was $5 higher than previously. Maybe the karma will cause them to end up like LastPass -- worse and worse customer service, raising and raising prices, and they get hacked, poor public relations response, and then every pundit is writing about how you need to leave.