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Some first thoughts on AI Note Cleanup: The AINC button appeared in my notes yesterday morning. When one clicks, one gets the disclaimer about the beta, including that note information would be shared with a third party. That prospect doesn't bother me for most of the notes I create, but your mileage may vary. And, as others have pointed out, the feature is totally "opt in" - AINC gets applied only to individual notes when user requests it. A short note took about 10 seconds to run through AINC; a medium note (950 characters) about 25 seconds; a longer note (3500 characters) was significantly longer - maybe close to a minute. I can see why, at least in beta, the feature is limited to notes up to 6000 characters. In my medium note, AINC accurately fixed misspellings of "university-wde" (should be "wide"), sumerr ("summer") and tmrw (tomorrow). That last spelling was intentional - that's how I usually write "tomorrow" in my notes. That correction made me think that it would be nice if there were a text expander feature built into AINC, customizable by each user. For instance, i could set the feature so that when I type ACO, AINC automatically changes that to "Acme Insurance Company". As promoted, AINC seems to be intended especially for notes of a meeting. I think the feature can work really well there, but I can understand why it might not work so well on recipes and other lists of instructions. I was a bit disappointed that AINC didn't do more with spiffying up the formatting of the notes. The notes I have tried it on have all being ones I created using the "Meeting Note" template, so they are already pretty structured. I'll see what happens when I run AINC on a less structured note (e.g. notes that I write to myself to record information relevant to a particular project.) To the extent AINC is used on meeting notes, I don't mind that there isn't a "compare" function, since if I took the notes and was at the meeting, I know what did and didn't happen and can tweak the post-AINC note accordingly. But if it is intended to be a feature with a broader use, it would be important to be able to identify the changes that AINC made.

The "AI Cleanup" button popped up in my EN this morning, and I tried it a few times - definitely helpful. I will post a new thread with my thoughts later today. As noted above, the feature is NOT messing with your notes automatically. You have to affirmatively run it on each note, one at a time.

Per info here - https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/16280830963091-AI-Note-Cleanup-Overview - AI Note Cleanup will be opt-in on a note-by-note basis. At least initially, one has to load the specific note to which one wants to apply the cleanup. Maybe at some point there will be the ability to select a small number of notes for Note Cleanup in one command, but I suspect that won't happen soon. The feature has a max of 6000 characters and will take some computer processing power, so I'd guess that Evernote will keep it note-by-note for the time being.

I haven't logged into the laptop yet, but the search results on my desktop now include the "false positives" again. For example, for the search for notes updated or created within the previous 2 days, instead of 44 notes (which is the number I get when I do the search on Evernote Web) there are now 441 notes. I remembered that I had not logged out of Evernote on my work desktop (though I did close the app last night before I left my office). When I am back in the office next Tuesday I will log out from the work desktop as well, then log out at home and see what happens. I should log out on my Android phone as well.

Just logged out of both my home desktop and laptop, with the "save data at log out" NOT selected. As I logged out I also selected "Remove my Evernote data from this device". Then logged back in on my desktop (which took a while). The date-restricted searches are working correctly - no false positives. Later in the day I'll see what happens when I log in on the laptop.

New development - the "false positives" returned on my desktop. I wonder if running the search on my laptop and getting wrong results triggered the problem to return on the desktop (upon syncing, presumably). I'll log out in both places and see if that solves the problem. To be continued!

Thanks to both of you for your suggestions - on point, as usual. When I tried the search on EN Web, it returned the correct results. When I unclicked "save data", that didn't solve the problem. But that plus logged out and in again (I think I had to do it twice, curiously) took care of the problem. Interestingly, the results are correct on my desktop, but are still wrong on my laptop (where I haven't yet turned off save data and logged out and in). Maybe the problem is related to having lots of notes in the account. Thanks again!

Hi all - I have a number of saved searches that include the created: and updated: search terms. For a while, those terms have returned way too many notes in the search results. For example: created:day-2 should return notes with a creation date within the past two days. It does return those notes, but also about 400 other notes that do not have a creation date in that period. For example, the search returns a note with a created & updated date of July 16, 1991. The only common factor appears to be that the notes are all ones where I modified the creation date to an earlier date (usually to match the date of a document I scanned). However, these other notes were not created or updated in the two day period, and there are other notes that I "backdated" that don't appear in the search results. Same happens when I search for updated:day-2. The same thing happens even I use the date instead of the day- formulation. So on 10/21/2021 (today as I post this), these two searches produce the same results: updated:day-2 updated:20211019 I've deleted and recreated the saved searches multiple times, so the problem isn't because they were created while using the now-legacy version. Any thoughts? If there were some other search term that I could add to get around that problem, that would be fine, too. By the way, I'm on the Evernote Personal plan, and have over 25,000 notes saved.

To Nordseo re the "multiple assignee" workaround: When one is within a ntoe and has an existing task and presses enter, EN sets up to create a new task. So one could copy the text of a task, press Enter, paste the copied info, then replicate the due date, reminder & flag status from the original task but enter a different assignee. The tasks themselves aren't directly linked, but they all would point back to the same note, so one could monitor all of the assignees from there. Also, if the task to the multiple assignees has the same due date or all, the tasks would display reasonably close together in the Tasks window if viewed by date (same due date). Even if they don't have the same date, the tasks would be sequential if the Tasks list is viewed by note (since they are in the same note). If one had dozens of assignees this workaround would be unwieldy, but I imagine that isn't a frequent need.

Thanks for the timely reminder, ChristianJB. I expect that recurring tasks will be coming soon (my guess would be by end of Northern Hemisphere's summer). A quick plug for one other item on the "what's next for tasks" list - multiple flags. For my personal use case, recurring tasks would be useful for home tasks, less so for work tasks. But multiple flags would be useful every day, as long as I could filter the Task List to display only flags of a particular color. That would be a perfect way to distinguish home from work tasks; there's one other major project that I do that I would assign a third flag color. There are workarounds (e.g. putting info or a special character in the name of a task), but multiple flags would make a HUGE difference to the usefulness of the Tasks feature for me. If there were enough flag colors (10-15, as PinkElephant suggested elsewhere, would be more than enough), I could use the flags both for distinguishing home from work tasks and for giving particular tasks the highest priority. So, for example, red flag could be highest priority (#1-Now in GTD); blue flag could be work; green flag could be home. So if I could show tasks with red and green or red and blue flags, I would be set! That said - from Early Access to now I have found Tasks immensely helpful. Maybe I should have been using a tasks app all along (I probably would have chosen Todoist), but what's in EN Tasks now, combined with what's coming, should be enough for my needs.

Thanks. I uninstalled EN Android and reinstalled and that got me to the right version.

Update - I was finally able to sign out of EN on Android and sign back in, but that didn't solve the problem. Still no Tasks; still version 10.12.1.

I saw in a General Discussion thread that EN was suggesting logging out of EN and logging back in to try to solve problems with Tasks access. On Android, I can't log out of EN. When I try to sign out, I get a whirling circle for a while and then nothing happens. Meanwhile, on my Windows desktop at home, Tasks and EN seem to be working fine, personal version. I logged out on my desktop and logged back in. Still having problems with Android.

Hi - when the new Evernote plans rolled out yesterday, I shifted from Premium to Personal. However, on Android I am locked out of Tasks, which no longer appears as an option. When I use the button at bottom of screen to try to create a new task, I get a message "Tasks not enabled - Update your Evernote version to keep using tasks". I then noticed that my EN version on Android is 10.12.1, which is apparently not the latest version. Is there a way for me to update to 10.13.1, which might solve the Tasks problem? I've gone to the Android Play Store but there is no update available there.

That would be my guess. I would add that I think the Plus plan will have a stripped-down Tasks feature, the lesser Premium plan the current Tasks feature (the one in early access), and the maximum Premium plan will include updates to Tasks (e.g. recurring tasks). I don't see Tasks being part of the Free version (though I wouldn't mind being wrong), but Home will be there. Sure, we could just wait for Evernote's actual announcement in the next few weeks. But what's the fun in that?