Paul A.

59 minutes ago, Alessandra said:

Yes it is. There is the option to see only the tags used in some notes rather than only those used in every selected notes. If they changed that I would be delighted 

Great. Could you take a screenshot of the legacy feature? It would help visualize how it could work better on v10.

Beyond that, do you use Twitter? Federico is active on Twitter and he's responded to many suggestions for feature improvements there. I saw someone say that BS thinks only a small percentage use tags so the more people that they see are requesting tag improvements, the better.

2 hours ago, Alessandra said:

I am one of the people who is still using Legacy and I would welcome advice about how to tag multiple notes in v10. I know that you can click on the desired notes and then tag them all at once. I also know that you can copy all the tags from one note to another but neither is an efficient way of doing what I did in Legacy. In legacy I could select a bunch of notes some of which with no tags and some with partially overlapping tags, click on CTRL+ALT+T and all and only the tags used in some or all of the selected notes would appear I could then click on each tag for it to be added to all notes or removed from all. I have many many tags and so scrolling down the whole list to find which is used in at least one note is not an option because it is too time consuming

I have the same question and the same pain point that I wrote about above, about a dozens posts earlier. Just a quick correction to the bolded/italicized section above - as of the very latest Evernote V10 update (with the UI refresh), I can find no way to copy and paste tags anymore.  (I know you said that doesn't work for you but it did work for me and I'm frustrated to see it gone.)

I do like your suggestion, however. If they could improve the "edit tag" experience (Ctrl-Cmd-Opt-T on Mac) so that all tags which appear on at least one note are sorted to the top of the view, that would be a big improvement. Is that how it works on Legacy?

There are a handful of features I miss from Legacy such as a bigger tag view "tag kingdom" which would make it easier to re-organize tags. With a full-size calendar coming soon, maybe the tag view could get a similar full-size treatment? 🤔

As for bugs and problems with the UI refresh, my biggest issue with the UI refresh is I can no longer copy and paste tags from the bottom of a note. There are many times when I need to assign the same tags to a new note (such as after clipping an important page that needs the same tags as an existing note).

How are others handling this? Multi-selecting notes and using the "edit tags" function is much slower and more error prone than the old way of simply highlighting the tags at the bottom of the note, copying, then pasting into a new note.*

*NB: Legacy made this even easier as I could click on any tag at the bottom of a note, use CMD-A to select all tags, then copy and paste as above. V10 got rid of the ability to CMD-A (which to be clear, I miss), but the UI refresh has completely eliminated this workflow.

3 minutes ago, mackid1993 said:

n V10 opening a note updates the date updated. That is expected behavior. I suggest you sort by date created instead. This does not get changed and would likely alleviate your issue.

Do you have a source for this? Because my understanding is that this is indeed a bug.

2 hours ago, Jon/t said:

No. Free plans didn't have OCR, they now do but EN isn't going back through millions of attatchments already uploaded. If you paid then nothing changes.

Why does it say "formerly Professional?" That's what confuses me. It should say formerly Premium & Professional, unless there's an asterisk.*

*I have a vague recollection that at one point OCR worked on PDF files with Personal/Premium but that OCR of images needed a higher tier plan, but can't find any evidence of that ever existing. I even checked the Wayback machine and couldn't determine for sure. Maybe someone remembers?

1 hour ago, Feitz said:

- how can I prevent edit dates from being modified and ruining my timeline just by viewing it?

- how can I avoid loosing attachments during sync or whatever causes this?

- how do I avoid loosing file extensions randomly and prevent them from reappearing during sync after I added them manually?

The edit dates bug was annoying for sure. Hasn't happened to me in a little while though I'm pretty sure it happened to me at least once after it was supposedly "fixed." I was about to say that hopefully by now it's fixed for good, but I just saw a new comment of yours saying that it's happening on the latest client version, 10.76.2 as of today. That's disappointing. Is it happening primarily with notes that you are opening for the first time on a recent version of v10? If so, it might be related to a data structure update that occurs when a recent client of V10 (that supports the new RTE sync) opens up an old note for the first time.

As for lost attachments and file extensions (I think the issues are related), I've experienced those issues before and have posted about them. This is another bug that has been reported "fixed" a couple of times, only for them to acknowledge that it was sometimes still happening and additional fixes were needed. Hasn't happened to me in a while so I'm hoping it's well and truly fixed now...

2 hours ago, Boot17 said:

Examples for comparison of UX of before and after as far as resizing the image:

Before 10.76.2

See how the blue selection box stays fixed around the image and the resize corner stays under the mouse the whole time. Behaves as you'd expect.

With 10.76.2

With 10.76.2 the purple selection box jumps to the max width of the note and then you must drag the mouse all the way in to resize.

iMO, it's not quite as good a UX as existed before for resizing the image.

Great screen clips (removed for space). I imagine this must be a bug. One of many that needs fixing!!!

6 hours ago, Federico Simionato said:

As for anonymizing PDFs, thank you for pointing out this inaccuracy, it was an oversight on our end. We'll update the original post to just say "PDF and image annotation".

Good to see you back in the forums. I'm still confused about the OCR section, I thought personal and professional had the same capabilities previously, so why does it say that it's formally professional?

"Document & image search (Formerly Professional)

Instantly find text in PDFs, word documents, images, presentations, and scanned documents. Learn more."

I also don't understand the technical restriction. Why is upgrading to Professional required and not to Personal? Why can Personal accounts only search documents from today onwards when I thought they could always search documents? 🤔

"Please note that due to technical restrictions, document & image search can only be applied retroactively to accounts that upgrade to Professional. Free and Personal accounts with new access to this feature will be able to search documents uploaded from today onwards."

They really should have you @janndk in a beta program as you seem to catch way more problems than their QA testers!

7 minutes ago, Jon/t said:

I think I worded that wrong. OCR will work as normal if you had it. For the free plan it will only work with notes going forward.

I think they need to update the language on the blog post to reflect this as well, then. Also, if it works on personal, then upgrading to personal should OCR previously uploaded documents not just upgrading to professional.

This whole thing feels a little slapdash. Further evidence for my theory that they're more than a little distracted by their two huge new acquisitions this year.

8 minutes ago, Jon/t said:

 I know the OCR stuff is only working with attachments going forward.

I'm confused by that part of the blog post. I was under the impression that OCR always worked on personal plans?

1 hour ago, PinkElephant said:

With the video / photo editing it may be a vacation or the kid‘s birthday. There a week may be a natural if you don’t need the tools for the rest of the year.

I buy this for a video editing app. But a note taking app? I'm sure you could find one person out there who might find a weekly plan useful, but my guess is most people are likely to get hoodwinked into overpaying. Especially when the weekly plan isn't offered transparently side-by-side the cheaper monthly and annual plans (it wasn't for me).

Bending Spoons seems to be using Deceptive Patterns (formerly known as Dark Patterns) to juice subscription numbers. It feels unnecessarily sneaky and underhanded.

Ugh, this is not good. What makes this worse is that on desktop the web clipper used to special support for Gmail emails and that feature was removed a couple of month ago and support could not tell me whether it's ever coming back.

7 minutes ago, mackid1993 said:

Hopefully this is for everyone. It seems like based on the early screenshot it is. If so it certainly adds some much needed value given the price increase. They really need to rebrand Free as a Trial plan. It's better marketing in the long run because it removes the expectation that Evernote can and should be a free service.

I agree it improves the value of the Personal plan - the geographic search (if it can be surfaced / used intuitively) could be quite interesting to me. Maybe the Boolean search too, though not sure how I would use it. It does weaken the Professional plan, so I wonder if new features are on the way for that plan, or if maybe the Pro plan itself will go away? 🤔

I recently downgraded to the Free plan and have noticed that Evernote is not specifying the plan type/name in any of the frequent upgrade notifications that Evernote shows me in the app. It just gives me an annual price, and if I select to see "other plans" it then offers a monthly payment option. Sometimes the offers are $170/year, sometimes $130/year, but in neither case does it tell me what kind of plan / features I would get for my payment.

Also, I occasionally get offered a $4.99 per week plan, which I found a little off-putting. The first time I saw it I thought hey, that's a good deal (I assumed it was $4.99 per month) and only after looking carefully did I realize it was actually more expensive than even the Professional plan.

13 minutes ago, BlueBlah said:

Thank you for the response. I got another update notice today. It's been about 4-5 days since the last one. Bug fixes are fine, but no other app is needing to do bug fixes every two weeks or whatever the frequency is. Are they all writing better code (snark) or is Evernote using the updates as a way to track users or keep drawing attention to the app. It just seems odd to need to fix this often and don't see t be the only one thinking this.

It's in vogue as a software development philosophy. Release small software updates early and often rather than waiting to package up "bigger" releases. 

25 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

Agreed, it is terrible at the moment.

Look for posts by @Federico Simionato.  He appears to be the product lead and posts occasionally.

They spent money to purchase Evernote, so I’m pretty sure they care, but at the moment what they care about may not align with what each of us may care about.

They seem to be very distracted with the recent purchases of Mosaic group apps and Meetup. Last year, Federico made several comments on these forums every month through November. December: 0 comments. January: just 3 comments, despite rolling out a new UI refresh in beta and getting lots of constructive feedback. February (so far): 0 comments.

Not very encouraging.

2 minutes ago, Boot17 said:

So now my answer to this question...

On 2/5/2024 at 5:31 PM, The Cinematic Guy said:

how do I force the new Evernote to actually download all of my content for truly offline use?

is: Try exporting them one notebook at a time using the app (don't use a 3rd party tool) to force Evernote to actually download all of them that aren't yet downloaded.

Great find / suggestion. I've been thinking of doing a notebook consolidation project as a while back I started putting all new notes into a single notebook with tags, but I have a bunch of old notebooks that I need to consolidate. I may give this a try once I'm done with that.

Side question, as a primarily tags user, how do you divide up your four notebooks? I was thinking it might make sense to have a couple of notebooks so that one notebook doesn't get too big (might also make exporting easier / more reliable), but I'm still thinking of logical ways to divide up my notes.

That's a pretty big bug if it affects all Android users of this version. 😮 If I had a spare phone I'd test it by logging out but don't want to lose access on my main phone! Hope they fix it ASAP.

@janndk has been reporting numerous search and filter bugs for months. Seems to be a bit of a pattern.

I don't filter too much but I do use search extensively, and with all the bugs I'm experiencing I haven't even reported that I have an ongoing bug where search doesn't get accurate results the first time, but then I repeat the same search and it works. 🤷‍♂️

40 minutes ago, mackid1993 said:

They are rewriting large portions of the client like they've explicitly said. Just be patient and your issues that you have raised will be fixed in due time.

Same thing was said with the v10 rewrite. I was part of the pre-release beta testing of the Android app (before anyone got it publicly), and I reported an annoying bug that's still not fixed almost three and a half years later! So forgive some of us might be a little out of patience with some of these Evernote bugs.

2 hours ago, mackid1993 said:

Recently the back gesture in Android was fixed. That was an annoying one that bothered many for quite a while.

Not fixed for me. Their kind of lackadaisical approach to diligently fixing quality-of-life fixes for users doesn't engender any goodwill in this user, either. [Reason bug is fixed for some and not others might(?) be related to the myriad bugs Evernote seems to have with Gboard. Though note that Evernote is the only app in over a hundred I have installed that seems to have any issues with Gboard.]

I'm curious to see what others say. I've seen people claim that Evernote v10 will eventually download a full copy of one's database, but that's not been my experience. Recently I took a plane flight and the WiFi was out-of-order. I was only able to open notes I've opened in recent months. Notes that I tried to open which happened to be older than a year did not open / were not available.

10 hours ago, RapidFinancialSolutions said:

I can't stand these lazy companies

Nothing lazy about it; it's just a design decision.

16 hours ago, mackid1993 said:

Amplenote commits a few cardinal sins in my book. I hate the way attachments are handled. When opening one a randomized AWS link is generated. They also hash the filename, which is awful.

Interesting and a little disappointing. I did a little digging into this following your comment. The hashing of the filename probably makes sense from their perspective, but the fact that they automatically rename our files with the hash is idiotic. This should be something that's handled transparently behind the scenes so that we users can keep our "friendly" file names.

As for the AWS link situation, it seems that images are handled differently compared to other files (e.g. pdf files).

16 hours ago, mackid1993 said:

The worst part is for a short period of time that link to your file can be accessed from any machine with an internet connection as long as you have the exact very long URL. It's a really lazy way of handling attachments. In other words, you get what you pay for.

My understanding is that image files can be access forever if you know the URL. Which is not overly concerning to me in terms of random discovery of the file (the size of the random range is so large that randomly coming across a file should be almost impossible and specifically finding one user's file even more unlikely.) However, if you ever need to share an image file with someone, that URL can be forwarded or even posted online somewhere and there are no access controls. That's potentially concerning.

For PDF and other attachments, my understanding is that there is a time-limited token so access to the file only lasts about 15 minutes or so, which seems reasonable, I think? Open to any other concerns with this approach.

16 hours ago, mackid1993 said:

Also no notebooks! You better like using tags for everything.

Doesn't bother me (easy enough to designate some tags as your "notebooks"), but I realize not everyone will feel the same way.

This thread has been full of detailed and constructive feedback. A little disappointing to not have Spooners participating in the discussion, @Federico Simionato. Would love to see your design folks participating. Missed opportunity, IMHO.

A day or two ago I was looking up some saved PDFs on Android and saw the dreaded "Untitled Attachment" instead of the actual file name. Earlier this year this lead to lost attachments and lost data (multiple times). Thankfully, this time the issue resolved itself (not sure what I did exactly, maybe backed out to the note list or did a pull-down refresh) and I was able to open the files.

So, progress, though I would prefer not to see "Untitled Attachment" ever again. And I'm not entirely sure the attachment data loss issue is 100% resolved across all platforms, which still concerns me.

10 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

You click into the field, and the box opens, with the cursor already set to the right place. At least this is how it works for me. I can just start typing.

I agree it is not a good UI move. But it is not necessary to look for a new target to click on, do so and only then continue the search interaction. It is already all set up for entry of the search string.

The annoying scenario is when there is an existing search term and you wish to search something else. Previously one could double-click the search box to highlight the search term and immediately begin typing. Due to the UI shift, that is no longer possible.