justacat 43 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 I just got a new iPad and made the switch to v.10. I had managed not to updated the app on my old iPad, but now with the new one I’ve been forced to update to the new one. I’m a longtime Evernote user - probably close to 15 years. So far it’s not as bad as I feared, but there’s one odd issue. I have a number of text replacement rules set in the General/keyboard settings of the ipad to speed up searching in Evernote - eg, “itl” is replaced with “intitle:”, along with a number of other similar rules for search terms I use frequently. This worked well in the old versions of Evernote. But in v.10+, the general iOS text replacement rules do not operate in the search bar. They work fine in the body of notes, but if I type any of my text replacement shortcuts in the search bar, nothing happens - there’s no replacement. Has anyone experienced this? Is there some reason for this seemingly inexplicable behavior or is it a bug? It’s a fairly small issue but I’m finding it so annoying! 1 Link to comment
Eggman 0 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Why? Why?! Very annoying indeed. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 12,075 Posted November 1, 2023 Level 5* Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Eggman said: Why? Why?! Very annoying indeed. Why why what? And please throw in your Device, OS and Evernote version. We're not Evernote (mostly other users here) but we can maybe suggest some fixes... Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,838 Posted November 1, 2023 Level 5 Share Posted November 1, 2023 There is a simple reason - text replacement happens all the time, and it can go against what I search as much as it can go in favor. So I think it is not allowed intentionally in the search field - search terms have to be precisely typed to bring up the right notes. Why? Why?! Very annoying indeed in my case brings up nothing - as hollow as the statement itself. Link to comment
justacat 43 Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, PinkElephant said: There is a simple reason - text replacement happens all the time, and it can go against what I search as much as it can go in favor. So I think it is not allowed intentionally in the search field - search terms have to be precisely typed to bring up the right notes. Why? Why?! Very annoying indeed in my case brings up nothing - as hollow as the statement itself. This makes absolutely no sense at all. Do you spend all your time on these forums just to be contrary and argue with every single criticism and comment that people make, because that is what it seems sometimes. Obviously, if someone has specifically and explicitly chosen and created a specific text replacement on their iOS device, then that is what they want, whether they are searching or doing any other task on their iOS device. By using the text replacement, I *am* "precisely typing" my search term. I am just doing it using a code that I myself chose for that term. It's not like Evernote search is some critical security issue that respecting text replacement might compromise or something. Furthermore, text replacement on certain Android keyboards works perfectly fine in the Evernote search box. Therefore I still have no understanding of or satisfactory explanation for this bizarre behavior. Why the heck can't I use my text shortcut for "intitle"?! Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,838 Posted November 1, 2023 Level 5 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Actually you have your opinion, and I have mine. But of course your opinion is so much better .... Know what: Ask support. Given their current reaction time you will have ample time to calm down your nerves and go to a quiet mood before they answer. And they get paid to be nice, which may work to your advantage. Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,838 Posted November 1, 2023 Level 5 Share Posted November 1, 2023 It doesn't work on iOS. Before posting general advise here, better check yourself if you can reproduce a deviating behavior. It doesn't help to tell how it "should" work if in fact it doesn't. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 12,075 Posted November 1, 2023 Level 5* Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Fatima Ansari said: If text replacement isn't working in a search bar: Ensure text replacement is enabled in your device's keyboard settings. Check if the search bar allows text replacement; not all apps or forms support it. Make sure your text replacement shortcuts are correctly configured in your keyboard settings. Hi. This post is incorrect on several levels, not least that we are in a mobile device forum. Beware that misleading posts may be deleted... Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,838 Posted November 1, 2023 Level 5 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On second thought it may well be somebody is again testing his ChatGPT virtues in this forum. Link to comment
Boot17 1,539 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, gazumped said: Hi. This post is incorrect on several levels, not least that we are in a mobile device forum. Beware that misleading posts may be deleted... Reading all their comments so far to date makes it look like someone is just using some AI service and delivering canned responses -- whether manually or a bot who knows. I'd guess more the manual because they have reacted to a post which is something I don't think we've seen from the other bot-like comments. 1 Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 12,075 Posted November 1, 2023 Level 5* Share Posted November 1, 2023 Yeah - I deleted one irrelevant comment already and have reported the user. If there's more bland comments they may wind up being deleted...🤨 1 Link to comment
justacat 43 Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, PinkElephant said: Actually you have your opinion, and I have mine. But of course your opinion is so much better .... Know what: Ask support. Given their current reaction time you will have ample time to calm down your nerves and go to a quiet mood before they answer. And they get paid to be nice, which may work to your advantage. I'm perfectly calm. It's just odd that I come to these forums once every 5 months or so, and in **every** **single** thread, you are coming up with the most elaborate and circuitous reasoning for why people's perfectly valid and reasonable issues and criticism and complaints are wrong. It's like you're an Evernote developer apologist. I love Evernote and rely on it for everything, but there are legitimate reasons for people to complain and be unhappy. Failure to recognize an operating system's text replacement, for example. Which apparently is in fact a "known issue," not a developer choice because of some special precision required for Evernote search, or whatever. 1 Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 12,075 Posted November 2, 2023 Level 5* Share Posted November 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, justacat said: and in **every** **single** thread, you are coming up with the most elaborate and circuitous reasoning for why people's perfectly valid and reasonable issues and criticism and complaints are wrong. I can tell you two reasons why this is wrong - it's not every thread, just quite a lot; and while @PinkElephant can be a tad.. direct.. in his views, he's not often wrong. Oh - and personal attacks are not permitted in the Forums. Everyone has an opinion, but let's keep it polite please? 1 1 Link to comment
justacat 43 Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, gazumped said: I can tell you two reasons why this is wrong - it's not every thread, just quite a lot; and while @PinkElephant can be a tad.. direct.. in his views, he's not often wrong. Oh - and personal attacks are not permitted in the Forums. Everyone has an opinion, but let's keep it polite please? I actually feel that pink elephant's responses border on personal attacks many times, they are just couched as reasonable and logical, in the way that gaslighting is. But they have the effect of calling the OP ridiculous or idiotic for their complaints. I find it very frustrating that it's never reined in. Regardless, in this particular case, their response makes no sense to me - I would go so far as to say that it's wrong. I don't really care about that in the end though - what I care about, though not really all that much in the scope of things I care about regarding Evernote, is being able to use a text shortcut when searching. Specifically, in my case I had used it for Intitle, which, because of how I organize notes, is my most frrquently used search parameter. Others of course might use text shortcuts in other ways when searching, to improve the efficiency and speed of their workflow. Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,838 Posted November 2, 2023 Level 5 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Basically I am not feeling responsible about what others may interpret into the answers they get when posting here. If somebody says he wants this or that changed or added, it is good practice here to discuss about it. With all respect, there is no rule for us to agree on everything just because it’s another user who is asking for it. And some seem to have difficulties dealing with opinions that are different from their own … Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 12,075 Posted November 2, 2023 Level 5* Share Posted November 2, 2023 Well I was using 10.64.5 and while typing this have updated to 10.65.2 and in both cases have tried out my Phrase Express inserts which work fine. I also use a hotkey for "intitle:". I'm on Windows 11 and the iOS app seems not to be the most effective conversion, so your mileage may very well vary. However we're all users here with no great insights - just experience. Support are the final authority on all of this, but as we know - they're a little busy right now. I do suggest that if you're still having issues, try uninstall / power off & back on / reinstall, and retry. If that deosn't help contact Support via the link in the App and send your recent Activity Logs. Meantime if replacement text is not available, you could try copy/ paste from a text file on desktop. We (i.e. you) will just have to wait until another new version comes along with (hopefully) a fix. And @justacat - while you're the OP 7 months ago in this thread, I think the most recent responses were more about @Eggman who's probably still running from the reaction they caused... Anyway. Keep it technical please? We're all users with opinions and if mine is different from yours it doesn't mean either of us are wrong... Link to comment
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