abdu

I was exporting my notebooks and noticed that for most of the notebooks that have just one note, the filename of the exported file is the title of the note instead of the name of the notebook. This looks like a bug.

On 7/9/2023 at 5:04 AM, Wanderling Reborn said:

And that’s why legacy users like you are going to ensure a steady revenue flow for years to come, even if the number of new paying users is drastically shrinking.

Realistically they could probably charge $50 per month and still retain the majority of deeply invested legacy customers. After all, many people spend more on Starbucks…

If I owned one of EverNote alternatives companies, I would have my developers create an import feature for evernote notes along with their tags. EN's tags feature is not rocket science and the alternatives can create a similar feature. It seems this alone with get a lot of users to migrate and it will create a big jump in increase in revenue.

So you mean instead of scrolling the list of notebooks in the left pane, scroll the list in the right pane. That can work.
Thanks.

53 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

I understand this as meaning that, when the list of notebooks opens downward and you scroll down through it, the shortcuts disappear. I see that too. It is possible to click on "Notebooks" and have the list of notebooks open out. Then you can either click on a notebook or on the arrow next to it to to get its list of notes in two different formats, in all cases keeping the shortcuts visible. Hope that helps.

Wherever I click on the notebooks area or on Notebooks line itsef, the shortcuts disappear once it gets covered with the list of notebooks. 

Is there a way to keep the shortcuts showing all the time in Evernote Windows? They get obscured when the list of notebooks scrolls up. 
I much prefer them showing up at the top like  Evernote legacy where they are fixed in position.
This feels like a downgrade in UI/UX to me with the newer version of Evernote.

I don't want a change or anything. I merely was curious on what happens when the import was done, where do all the notes go to.
Your reply had some incorrect information which I replied to.

The legacy app is done. No more updates to it. There's no use to send feedback about making changes to it. If the current version exports the notes with their notebooks info then whoever wants a proper export can upgrade to it. 

I don't care about exports and imports. I don't have a need for them. I too have my whole disk backed up.

Here's an example with an added notebook field.

<created>20211025T190857Z</created>
        <updated>20211025T230642Z</updated>
        <note-attributes>
            <author>John Doe</author>
            <source>desktop.win</source>
            <notebook>Some Notebook</notebook>                                    <===== do something like this
            <source-application>evernote.win32</source-application>
        </note-attributes>

47 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

The ENEX file format does not hold this information. There is no field available for it in the standard.

So even if EN would write it somewhere, the importing app would not know it is there.

Exporting via ENEX is a one timer - you are not moving to another app every week. I don't think that this is a process that needs to be polished to the last bit of efficiency. Usually the problems after importing are larger than getting the proper export done. Most apps may offer an importer, but this does not solve different structural approaches in the way the content is treated. 

The ENEX standard is a standard developed by Evernote. It's not a web standard. It's just an XML file. Since Evernote developed it, they can define and put in it whatever they want. Certainly they can define a field for the notebook name. Since they developed it, then of course Evernote can import everything from it. Other non Evernote apps can do the same once they understand the ENEX format.

So Evernote didn't put a field for the notebook name. I don't know if it was an oversight or done on purpose.

When all the notes in the legacy app are exported without their Notebook designations and then one imports the file say in a new legacy app installation, are they all going to get imported into one notebook? That's pretty bad. I am surprised that Evernote doesn't save the Notebook meta information in that version which has been around for many years.

The new Evernote text font looks bulky and big and there's too much white space in the lists. The white space between the lines in the list of notes and the list of notebooks. I prefer the compactness in the legacy version. Is there a way to make the new version have the same kind of compactness of the legacy app?

22 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

@abdu Whoever knows how your own computers are set up ? If you get the update notice only now, you are late to the party anyhow.

The old clients will try to update from time to time. You have to remember this, or it happens what has happened already.

The legacy client will never update.

You can install legacy and v10 side by side. But in your case I won’t do it, because you would be consuming one of your total 2 clients for each client you install.

This means as well you likely need to uninstall v10 on the upgraded computer before installing legacy. You may try if it works without, but probably not.

What do you mean the legacy client will never update? I just said it did. I assume by legacy client you mean version 6.x.
If the legacy app never updates then there will be a lot of users who will be on 6.x forever unless they know that there's a new version and go to download it manually.

If I get a notice on one of my two 6.x clients and only now, surely it's Evernote's fault. Evernote has bugs. 

On my home computer with version 6.x, I got a notice on it that a new version with something about import folders feature. I updated and notices it upgraded to 10.x. A completely new version. I didn't expect this. I wanted to stay on 6.c. The notice should have been clear that the upgrade is not a minor upgrade but it's going to upgrade to the brand new version of 10.x

I have another computer on 6.x and that computer never got the same notice. Even when I check for upgrades, it says there are no upgrades available. What the heck! What is this mess .. Evernote? Either you upgrade both or don't upgrade both and you want to upgrade to 10.x, be clear that this is your intention.

If I find any issues with 10.x, I am going to downgrade to 6.x.

A lot of people went to OneNote when Evernote put the restriction of having only 2 devices that can be synced in the free plan. 

I just export the notes and search in them my own way when I need to. I have decided years ago I wasn't going to wait for the company to implement partial search. 

I am just replying to you here for the sake of discussion and because you seem to come up with excuses for the company when these excuses or reasons are weak.
I have proposed the feature 5 years ago. They had plenty of time to implement it.  I know they're putting their energy on the new version. My request still holds. Put then in the new version. Forget v6. 

I don't know why you keep bringing up searching for beginning of text. Partial search means searching for parts of texts no matter where it's located in a word. 
If the beginning of word search works now, great. But that's part of the story.

We'll see what the new version will look like. When I tried it a few months ago, it felt like a crippled version with fewer features than 6.x.
All I can hope for is they implement partial search in the new version. All I saw is them reapplying and porting the same features from 6 to the new one. I haven't been following what new features are going to be in the new one.

The notes are on your machine. The search is done on your machine.
There's no simultaneous access by thousands of users. That's when users are syncing their notes with Evernote on Evernote servers in the cloud. That's a totally different thing. 

Indexing helps to get instant results and it's not the only way to search.  When someone wants to do partial then search regular search is fine. Users should be able to get results instead of no capability to do partial search.

Export all the notes into a single .enex file and open that file in any text editor. Do a search in the editor and it will find anything instantly. So even without using an index, any kind of search is super fast. Surely anyone can wait a second for the first result to show up even if there are thousands of notes. We're not talking minutes here.

IMO, any excuse for not implementing partial searches is super lame.

1 hour ago, PinkElephant said:

As I tried to say: An interesting feature request, but probably nothing for the next future. I don’t see EN rebuilding the whole search index and code to implement it.

Do you know how their search works exactly to suggest it's too much work to enhance it? 
I posted this post in 2016. FIVE YEARS! How many years do you think they need to add this feature!?

48 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

As I tried to say: An interesting feature request, but probably nothing for the next future. I don’t see EN rebuilding the whole search index and code to implement it.

There are no cons here when Evernote gives the user the option to include partial searches. These are notes written over many years. There are times when I remember part of a word and I NEED to find notes that contain it. Don't worry about the number of returned notes. If I have time to go through 200 notes then give me that option. 
If it returns many notes, I can simply add more characters. All text editors, browsers and many software provide the ability to search by partial words. If it exists, show it 
Improve the search functionality. It's not rocket surgery. There are many open source libraries that can do this.

I don't know why Evernote is spending time on some Tasks feature or whatever that thing means or does. Stick with Notes and being able to slice and dice and search them in  different ways. It's a notes app. We want to be able to find our notes. We don't want the software to get bloated with non notes related features while ignoring what many users have been asking for years.

Did many users ask for this Tasks thing? 

They created that restaurant rating, location, review feature/add on and they then removed it. Proof they waste time and energy on features that are not badly needed.
 

57 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Do you have notes selected for export?

That did it. Thanks. I thought when All Notes is selected in the left side that meant to export them all.

I am using Evernote 6.25.1.9091. When I export, all I get is a skeleton enex file with no notes. Isn't this the legacy version people mentioned in the previous comments  which supports exporting all the notes in one file?

Also when I check the 'No not show this message again' checkbox in the last dialog, it still keeps popping up when I export. Looks like a bug.

There's one Windows beta forum which is linked from https://discussion.evernote.com/ to https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/536-evernote-betas/ to https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/forum/539-windows/.

Where are you reaching the other one from?

How to make clicking on a link go to the page instead of bringing up an edit option? That's what 99.9% of the time I want to do so this needs to be the default behavior. Not editing it.

The list of notes is in a side column. How do I put them on top like I was able to in the regular version?

12 minutes ago, Alxa said:

I want to add, that I recently contacted EN support with this problem. As there are languages, which have words which are put together with several word parts. For example in german: "Gesamtelternkonferenz". When searching for content I surely would try "eltern" because this is the word which comes to mind first. Evernote would NEVER find any information about it. This is only because of the nature of the language used. EN search to date does not address this language specific problem. The search engine is optimised for english only. Support told me, they would escalate this language perspective of the problem to product manager as they do not want to discriminate users by their language used.

It's not a language specific issue. If EN supports partial searches on latin based languages, it will work in these languages

27 minutes ago, jefito said:

In the time it's taken for you discuss it here, you could have gotten it working with AutoHotKey. And someone here would have been happy to help if you had any difficulty... *shrug*

I'm not saying that it's not a reasonable request, but the likelihood of it changing soon is probably pretty low, and this would save any mental friction over using Ctrl+G.

I already replied to you and told you that it makes more sense to try to remember to use ctrl-f than installing a tool, learning it just so I can use F3. Frankly it's an absurd idea to install a whole app just to use a key in another app when that app already has a shortcut key. And don't worry about my time.