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Just for the record since Android is being discussed. I don't use it heavily (mostly lookup not much entry), and I don't much like the new Home interface, but I haven't seen any bugs or extreme delays. (10.9 on pixel 3a)

I'm still sticking to 6.25.1 on my main Windows workhorse. Thrice burned, ten-times shy.

1 hour ago, Paul Warwicker said:

he marked this thread as solved on the day it was opened.

To give him the benefit of the doubt, this may have been just a technique to pin his comment so that others would see it more readily. Though that would not justify the lack of any other acknowledgement of the feedback here.

4 hours ago, maheshsharma121 said:

So i am asking the EVERNOTE people

They don't ever comment here; no sign that they are interested in our feedback. I have been using Evernote for at least 15 years and am very discouraged.

On 3/6/2021 at 11:41 AM, harrd0517 said:

The windows app performance has been awful for some time, not just the current release. 

Right, nobody is claiming any new problems with the current release in particular. It's the entire re-engineered 10.x series that is broken. The reason for the rising frustration is that we have been willing to cut them some slack for a few weeks or even months while they work out kinks with new technology, preferably keeping the community informed. But now, 5 or more months after the release of 10.x, fundamental problems remain with absolutely no acknowledgement or plan for improvement on the part of the company. Hence the rising tide of disillusionment, and the widespread suggestion to return to the legacy version 6.25 until either the company makes a radical change to fix the breakage (not just adding more and more fluff), or one finds an alternative. The tradeoff, and specification for an acceptable alternative, will vary for different users.

Amazing that we hear nothing from EN here. Maybe they listen on twitter. I just tried:

https://twitter.com/evernote/status/1359585656842948612

I've been using Evernote for roughly  15 years, and while there have been changes that I liked and changes that I didn't, I've never seen anything like this pervasive collapse of functionality. 

Does anyone here know whether the Evernote team is even aware of these performance issues? If they are living in an alternate universe with tiny little test demo databases, they may be happily going on in adding cute fluffy kittens to their feature grid while the foundation rots under their feet.

17 minutes ago, WeCanLearnAnything said:

I basically just need to be able to type quickly and it's weird and sad that Evernote does not offer that experience.

Yeah, right? When a note-taking app can't take notes, does it really matter that it has an "awesome" "home" screen?

Agreed.

Hi @celia80302 For what it's worth, I have  scansnap set to dump files into Evernote directly via the cloud (so no drag-drop needed), which has continued to work with legacy. (This scanner was originally Evernote Edition but a year or two ago when EN dropped it, Fujitsu issued a firmware replacement patch, so it now has been converted to a standard Fujitsu ScanSnap.) Now that I think if it, this workflow might depend on the scanner having Wifi capabilities, which mine does.

For the record, my initial impression of 10.6.9 on Mac is that the performance is much improved. No long waits yet (much less freezes).

Time will tell. Still not updating my Windows (primary Evernote) machine.

2 hours ago, OrbWeaver said:

Then I found an open-source package called Joplin. For my purposes its only drawback is the lack of thumbnails which make things easier for my old eyes . It doesn't have much in the way of formatting as it's markdown based but I don't need a lot of formatting. It

Thanks for the info @OrbWeaver. Presumably (and from brief look at its docs) Joplin does not have Evernote's ability to do fuzzy searching in images? For everything else it sounds perfect. And frankly markdown would be a relief after Evernote's stubborn inability, decade after decade, to allow me to reformat text to my needs.

10.6.9 just released on Mac. The release notes don't mention general performance problems, but it will be interesting to see if this improves anyway.

On Windows (my main platform for Evernote) I'm not prepared to take the risk of returning to version 10 until I hear some consistent positive reports.

Not changed in 10.6.9 just released.

On Windows, I just uninstalled 10.5.7 and replaced it with 6.25 from File Hippo.

It's like having a 100 lb stone removed from my back! Starts up in less than a second (vs 20-30 seconds or frozen)

I'm leaving the newer versions installed on Mac and Android for now, where I don't use EN that much.

On Windows, I just uninstalled 10.5.7 and replaced it with 6.25 from File Hippo (linked above).

It's like having a 100 lb stone removed from my back! Starts up in less than a second (vs 20-30 seconds or frozen)

I'm leaving the newer versions installed on Mac and Android for now, where I don't use EN that much.

15+ year user, 10+ year premium user

Seriously considering abandoning ship.

The performance (Windows and Mac) is unforgiveable. And it freezes too so that if it's unresponsive I can't tell whether to wait, or quit and restart.

> authors are convincing you to use the older version. 

I would do this in a heartbeat, but are the databases compatible? I thought that once I'd upgraded and used it for a while, I was stuck?

In the latest versions, the note list vanishes when one opens a note directly from the sidebar. 

This is so inconsistent -- this does not happen when you click on a note in the notes list. And it makes it very awkward to compare a favorite note (from the sidebar) with a recent note (from the notes list). And the workflow is not at all intuitive / discoverable. 

I agree, it seems to be the intended result. But it's so inconsistent -- this does not happen when you click on a note in the notes list. And it makes it very awkward to compare a favorite note (from the sidebar) with a recent note (from the notes list). And the workflow is not at all intuitive / discoverable. 

Thanks for pointing out the Requests forum.

@agsteeleto reproduce: make sure that you have a note link in your sidebar and the note list visible (any of the 4 available formats). Click on a sidebar note link. The note opens, replacing both the note list and the previously opened note. I.e. the note list disappears.

v 10.5.7 build 2171 public
 

Workaround -- click on All Notes or on any notebook or any other shortcut to multiple notes.

So I'm not dead in the water but this is a very bizarre user experience. And doesn't help me at all when I want to go directly from one note to another in the list.

Just now, Mike P said:

I don't understand why EN think this behaviour is sensible! I do not know of a way of getting the note list back while staying in the note you have selected.

If you just want the notelist back you can click all notes or a notebook in the sidebar.

 

Thanks, Mike. Yes I also discovered the "click notebook" workaround, but I agree, this is is very counterintuitive. Maybe they are trying to save screen space for teensy tablets?

Same as

Same thing on Windows : EN 10.5.7 I don't know how to get the note list back because there's no "Close Note" command.

I don't know about "worst" but it's certainly poor. Slow as molasses in January. 

Windows has "Check all" and "Uncheck all" commands, which I use regularly. Mac and Android do not. As a LOOONG time Evernote user, I find the inconsistency in commands between platforms to be very frustrating (to put it mildly and more politely than I actually feel).