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Thanks for the replies. I can't replicate anywhere other than on my work PC so I assume it's something specific there.

Hi all

Since using Proton Pass (PP) I have issues logging in to Evernote web. 

While PP adds the log in details, it takes numerous cycles of adding before the password field appears. Until today I've never had an issue with the 2FA, but that is now failing.

Anyone else has this issue?

@PinkElephant @agsteele @gazumped

Now we've got Schrodinger's Cat functionality - dragging notes to create links is both "New" and "Coming Soon". Or is this a relativity frame of reference thing...

On 4/22/2022 at 5:53 PM, gazumped said:

I don't believe that anyone can answer that question accurately given the impact of the 'observer effect', which notes that measurements of certain systems cannot be made without affecting the system, that is, without changing something in a system.

Heisenberg utilized such an observer effect at the quantum level as a physical "explanation" of quantum uncertainty. It has since become clearer, however, that the uncertainty principle is inherent in the properties of all software,  in that the more important a feature is,  the longer it will subjectively seem before it is implemented... 

(Also known as the 'Watched Pot' effect)

All we can hope is in the multiverse interpretation there are other realities where this is in prod and being used!

Can someone at EN define 'soon' for me, please?

I've seen this in Coming Soon for a while now, beyond what I think can safely be called 'soon'  "- Need to link to one note from another? Drag it from the note list into the editor and Evernote will automatically create a link for you."

EN's mentality always seems to be a change to fundamental behaviour with no flexibility.

For this example the New button has a "+" and a down arrow icon. To me this says "Add New" or "Select from a list".  But there appears to be no difference. So why have them?

The alternative is to set your default "new" action as a one-click action, e.g. New = New Note. If you want another New item, click on the down arrow - the universal sign for unroll options list. I have the option to one-click or two-click to create the new item. Right now it is all two-click.

I create a lot more Notes than Tasks. And I usually create Tasks in a dedicated Note. 

I set up an import folder soon after they became available in v.10. I am on 10.25.6 now.

I have just noticed the import folder did not work. Checking the setting the linked folder was gone. I have re-added and it appears to be working. My guess is this happened one or two versions ago.

Is this a known bug?

Ok. No problem. Thanks.

I have several tasks with due dates in November, reminders one week before.

I got a reminder today that the Task is due. 3 months early. Is this known behaviour?

Date Nov 1, 2021

Reminder 7 days before

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Connected to a Note

If there has been extended private testing internally in Evernote  how did this make it to the production version?

I use Day One and find the most powerful feature is the 'what happened a year ago on this day'. I wonder if tasks functionality could be used for this type of use automatically? I wouldn't want to create a reminder every day/journal entry but if it was inherited from a notebook it could work?

On 12/24/2019 at 8:22 PM, DTLow said:

I thought the "why" was obvious; to share the methods we users implement a dashboard    
Your definition of dashboard works: an aggregate of the information in the system,  displayed it in a way that is useful    
I think a more important point is simplified access to the "information in the system" (our data)

I appreciate the submissions, and picked up ideas for my own dashboard use

>>this feels like we are working for the system, instead of the system working for us ... I think Evernote should focus on being the best knowledge management tool there is

I view the system (Evernote) as a generic digital filing cabinet; used for storing and organizing our data

The tools have been provided; we chose how to use them

>>I would expect a Dashboard in Evernote to allow me to easily add the metadata I want to see, e.g. Notebook, Tag, Notebook+Tag(s), To-do lists, reminders, etc. It's almost the concept of putting selected Saved Searches on a front page. And link out to the SaaS projects. 

That's valid.  Other uses have different ideas.    
We shared our methods for implementing these concepts    
I don't want to be locked into a specific method; "e.g. Asana, Basecamp, etc"

>>why this comp was for US residents only

The restriction surprised me too, but I ignored it.    
I still shared my concepts, and still learned from the other submissions 

Thanks for the considered response.

Perhaps I was grumpy the day I posted, but if the explanation re competition laws globally etc was given up front then I think it would have avoided the hurrumphing. I'd still love to see global usage stats though...and, these days, if a company wants my IP they need to offer something in return, especially when I'm a paying user...

Agreed everyone should use as they wish. But, it feels like I am often working hard to make Evernote do what I want, rather than it being easy for me. The Dashboards I've seen are impressive but they seem to be a lot of work. I don't want to have to constantly maintain a dashboard, just set it up and it does the work for me. 

The reference to other systems is more the idea of adding flexibility, rather than limiting it, where e.g. I've done lots of work in (more sophisticated and specialised) PM systems already, and want to leverage that work done already. It's the concept of other channels doing the work and Evernote, and users, getting the benefit if time energy is sunk. And it helps promote the product to other audiences - benefits to all.

On 12/31/2019 at 3:16 AM, jefito said:

Well why not? Isn't giving other Evernote users ideas as to how to use dashboards to improve organization, productivity, etc. a good use of the forums? And handing out a little swag and/or recognition can help to spur more participation -- especially by people who might not ordinarily participate in the forums -- at a pretty low cost to Evernote.

Doesn't need to be fancy. As a longtime, abd reasonably adept, Evernote user, I've used weekly journals to organize the work I do, and that does work to some degree, but seeing the entries here, inspired me to create my own dashboards, both for work and for my personal Evernote, Of course, in true jefito fashion, mine tend to be more spare and utilitarian, and not so fancy as the winners here. Journals give me a record of what I've done; dashboards give me a view of what I need to do next.

Not sure how that could be. The forums here are mainly for Evernote user participation: bug reporting, feature suggestions, and helping others with ways to use Evernote better. Sure Evernote has self-interest in increasing user engagement (entanglement?) with Evernote, but Evernote being largely an open format (as in no set rules for use), it helps people who are already invested in Evernote to see what how other Evernote users use Evernote differently, and possibly better. Don't want to share or participate? Fine. There's no rule that requires you to.

The beauty of the dashboard concept is that users can build their own pretty easily that suit their own needs, and it doesn't need to be an Evernote feature (i.e., supported in the architecture or UI); it's just something useful that you can do in Evernote with features already available in Evernote.

Thanks for the considered response.

I'd only add that I meant it feels sometimes we are working hard for Evernote the 'system' to do what we want, rather than it being easy to achieve what we want. I agree Evernote is a blank slate that lets everyone work as they want, but for me the purpose of a dashboard is to aggregate the work done into a useful summary - rather than something that needs constant maintenance.

Having read through this topic I am more and more curious as to why a dashboard competition was announced in the first place. I was also surprised at the range of experience people have - from not knowing what a dashboard was, to having some of the most intricate work I've seen in Evernote to achieve their aims. But, this feels like we are working for the system, instead of the system working for us.

My view is Evernote still has basic functionality that it is poorly implemented, or missing and these need to be rectified immediately. The behind the scenes work shows this is happening and kudos to Ian Small and team on this intent. My fear is that Evernote will succumb to scope/function creep. It comes back to the basic premise of "what is Evernote for?" I've seen almost every piece of software I've used go from being light and perfect, to bloated and messy. (Mailchimp being a perfect example). I think Evernote should focus on being the best knowledge management tool there is. And then partner with good PM SaaS offerings. 

Many of the dashboards I've seen here are attempting to replicate PM software, e.g. Asana, Basecamp, etc. Evernote can't compete with these systems in terms of PPP management, workflow, dependencies etc. But, project delivery alwasy fails to adequate capture information generated through the project, especially when it has completed!

I'm sure the developers/UI/UX at Evernote don't need to be told how to build a dashboard. For me as a user in a system the dashboard should aggregate the information in the system and display it in a way that is useful, the way I want it. I would expect a Dashboard in Evernote to allow me to easily add the metadata I want to see, e.g. Notebook, Tag, Notebook+Tag(s), To-do lists, reminders, etc. It's almost the concept of putting selected Saved Searches on a front page. And link out to the SaaS projects. 

And I would still like someone to clarify why this comp was for US residents only...?I would have hoped being a paying customer for 10+ years would have counted... @Ian Small

Very disappointing to see this is for US users only. On this basis I'll decline to participate.

I'd be interested to see the breakdown of user by region/country.