André 58 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Did you ever think of setting up or using an existing data centre in Europe? It could help to bring people to Evernote who don't use it because they don't like their private data to be stored in the US. Link to comment
Wanderling 143 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/04/france-electronic-spying-operation-nsa https://gigaom.com/2014/05/31/german-spies-want-400m-to-play-catch-up-with-the-nsa/ https://theintercept.com/2014/04/30/gchq-prism-nsa-fisa-unsupervised-access-snowden/ http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2276747/exposed-gchqs-secret-plan-to-tap-the-worlds-phone-and-internet-traffic http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/nsa-europeans-spying_n_4179632.html Just because they didn't get as much publicity, doesn't mean they aren't playing the same games. Actually until 9/11 the French were the most notorious for their brazen use of surveillance. Back in the early 2000 we were warned to not review any sensitive business documents while flying Air France and to remember that some of their air crew members were trained in fast reading the upside down text. And then of course you have the Chinese whose electronic data collection operation dwarfs even the NSA. I noticed that the Europeans are raised to believe that they have the best consumer protection laws, the best quality food, the best environmental standards etc. While there's much truth in it, a lot of this is also pure political marketing. E.g. in the wake of Volkswagen's emission scandal, some German newspapers described the US emission standards as "too tough" and "unrealistic" in order to explain why VW felt the need to cheat. While at the same time probably telling their citizens they had the best environmental laws in the world. A few years ago I had a friend living in Germany tell me she would never drink any Californian wine because it contained sulfites, wile the European wine didn't. Not only that, but she claimed that the evil American corporation force the Europeans to add sulfites to their wines sold in the US. All because the labels on the wine bottles destined for the US stated "contains sulfites" while the same wine sold in Europe didn't say that. Of course the real reason was that the US laws demanded mandatory labeling of sulfites, and the European laws didn't, at that time at least. The wine was exactly the same. Anyway, if you don't want your data read by someone you don't trust, don't put it in the cloud. Link to comment
Frank.dg 1,385 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 On 4/2/2016 at 10:01 PM, Wanderling said: I noticed that the Europeans are raised to believe that they have the best consumer protection laws, the best quality food, the best environmental standards etc. Whether true or not... this is precisely why @André has a point... Europeans, for whatever reasons, would be predisposed to using a service where their data is stored in Europe. Just give people what they want, whether it makes sense or not... we're all suckers for marketing Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 12,021 Posted April 5, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted April 5, 2016 We do worry about that sort of thing... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/02/safe_harbor_replaced_with_privacy_shield/ Link to comment
André 58 Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 Without going into any details of who is right or wrong, there is interest in "local" storage and it might be a good business decision to take account of this sentiment. It might be more efficient, too. imho ;-) Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,743 Posted April 5, 2016 Level 5* Share Posted April 5, 2016 On April 1, 2016 at 0:18 AM, André said: Did you ever think of setting up or using an existing data centre in Europe? It could help to bring people to Evernote who don't use it because they don't like their private data to be stored in the US. Didn't you hear; there are ongoing negotiations to build a data centre in Russia (sorry, I was late for April 1 I don't know about anyone else but I'd be really concerned if my data was stored in certain European countries Link to comment
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