peterlemer 14 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Ā Spot the difference: Here are 2 pics: 1. Evernote 7.1.4 note following Search " Forest Walk" 2. Evernote 10.34.4Ā note following Search " Forest Walk" Ā Ā I can't afford to lose notes when upgrding Ā Any ideas? Ā pete Link to comment
Evernote Expert agsteele 3,059 Posted April 6, 2022 Evernote Expert Share Posted April 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, peterlemer said: I can't afford to lose notes when upgrding Any ideas? Have you checked that the notes are actually missing or could they just be absent from the search results? In Evernote 10 choose to display all notes then sort in updated date order. Browse down to October and December 2021 and see if the 'missing' notes are present but just not being found in the search. Resolving a search problem will be different to recovering notes that have been deleted. You posted in the Android App area of the forums but your screen shots look like Mac desktop. Is that correct? 1 Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,754 Posted April 6, 2022 Level 5 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I second in general the proposal made by @agsteeleĀ to check on the web client - but it may be a problem in your case, since you seem to be on a Free Account !!! The web client is counted as a device, which means you will probably violate the device limit. To me it looks as if the v10 client has a corrupted local database. You can resolve it through this procedure (or a Mac, Windows is slightly different). Hopefully the search results will match after rebuilding the database from the cloud server: Go to the Evernote menu, Preferences, and uncheck āKeep data when leavingā Log out of EN (File menu), quit EN (cmd-q). When asked confirmĀ "Remove Data from This Device". If you want to be very sure, restart the Mac Open EN, log back in, wait for it to run an initial sync.Ā 1 Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) On 4/6/2022 at 4:16 PM, agsteele said: Have you checked that the notes are actually missing or could they just be absent from the search results? In Evernote 10 choose to display all notes then sort in updated date order. Browse down to October and December 2021 and see if the 'missing' notes are present but just not being found in the search. Resolving a search problem will be different to recovering notes that have been deleted. You posted in the Android App area of the forums but your screen shots look like Mac desktop. Is that correct? Thanks for your response, agsteele Ā yes this is a Mac desktop. sorry. I attach 2 screenshots: 1. showing the result of searching for "Violin Track" in v7 ( on left) and v10 2. showing the result for scrolling to the date as you suggest, looking for the note: 'violin track? Billy' Ā Edited April 9, 2022 by peterlemer second thoughts Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 5:49 PM, PinkElephant said: I second in general the proposal made by @agsteeleĀ to check on the web client - but it may be a problem in your case, since you seem to be on a Free Account !!! The web client is counted as a device, which means you will probably violate the device limit. To me it looks as if the v10 client has a corrupted local database. You can resolve it through this procedure (or a Mac, Windows is slightly different). Hopefully the search results will match after rebuilding the database from the cloud server: Go to the Evernote menu, Preferences, and uncheck āKeep data when leavingā Log out of EN (File menu), quit EN (cmd-q). When asked confirmĀ "Remove Data from This Device". If you want to be very sure, restart the Mac Open EN, log back in, wait for it to run an initial sync.Ā Thanks for your response, PinkElephant. Ā On my display agsteele doesn't mention the web client. In any case the note mentioned above "violin track' doesn't appear on the web client either. Nor is it in the notes list for 11th Oct (later) I see that that file is flagged as 'local' . That must be the problem. How do I migrate my v7 database, including local files, to v10? Ā pete Ā Ā Ā Ā Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 4:16 PM, agsteele said: Have you checked that the notes are actually missing or could they just be absent from the search results? In Evernote 10 choose to display all notes then sort in updated date order. Browse down to October and December 2021 and see if the 'missing' notes are present but just not being found in the search. Resolving a search problem will be different to recovering notes that have been deleted. You posted in the Android App area of the forums but your screen shots look like Mac desktop. Is that correct? update: see my response to PinkElephant re 'local' notes Ā pete Link to comment
Evernote Expert agsteele 3,059 Posted April 9, 2022 Evernote Expert Share Posted April 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, peterlemer said: I see that that file is flagged as 'local' . That must be the problem. How do I migrate my v7 database, including local files, to v10? That will be the answer. Local notes aren't an option in v10. You should find an option to move local notes in v10 but the easiest option is to avoid the Legacy app and move the local notes to an online notebook. They will then sync into V10Ā 2 1 Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 17 hours ago, agsteele said: That will be the answer. Local notes aren't an option in v10. You should find an option to move local notes in v10 but the easiest option is to avoid the Legacy app and move the local notes to an online notebook. They will then sync into V10Ā I think I originally used the local option because I have material of value that I didn;t want to trust to the cloud. How secure is Evernote data online? Could I keep the local data in v7 and use that as a suppository ( no jokes please ;-)) going forward? Ā pete Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,754 Posted April 10, 2022 Level 5 Share Posted April 10, 2022 As secure as it gets: https://evernote.com/security The most important part is your own: Choose a strong, unique passwordĀ Set up 2FA When on a public WiFi, think about using a VPN, or switch to mobileĀ You can install and run the legacy client side by side with v10. If you decide to keep your local notebooks local in the legacy client, you can do so. https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote However any changes done to these notes (or their copies in the cloud) will not sync with each other. Local is local, cloud is cloud, so I would decide to keep the legacy notebooks as an archive, if at all. 1 Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, PinkElephant said: As secure as it gets: https://evernote.com/security The most important part is your own: Choose a strong, unique passwordĀ Set up 2FA When on a public WiFi, think about using a VPN, or switch to mobileĀ You can install and run the legacy client side by side with v10. If you decide to keep your local notebooks local in the legacy client, you can do so. https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote However any changes done to these notes (or their copies in the cloud) will not sync with each other. Local is local, cloud is cloud, so I would decide to keep the legacy notebooks as an archive, if at all. thanks again PinkElephant. If I keep local notes /only/ in v7 can I connect them with v10 using note links? Ā pete Link to comment
Evernote Expert agsteele 3,059 Posted April 10, 2022 Evernote Expert Share Posted April 10, 2022 3 hours ago, peterlemer said: Could I keep the local data in v7 and use that as a suppository ( no jokes please ;-)) going forward? Legacy is going. Not necessarily immediately, but it is not even receiving palliative care. One day it will just stop working and then it will be gone. If it breaks because of an OS update then you are likely to lose the local notes as well. The online notes will still be accessible in V10 but local could go overnight, without warning and not as a direct result of a decision by Evernote to stop the Legacy app. 1 1 Link to comment
Evernote Expert agsteele 3,059 Posted April 10, 2022 Evernote Expert Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 minute ago, peterlemer said: thanks again PinkElephant. If I keep local notes /only/ in v7 can I connect them with v10 using note links No. Local note links work locally and not across applications. 1 Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 Good advice, good warnings, good clarity, thanks man š ISTR a lot of complaints a while back about loss of local files - it didn't mean much to me then.... Link to comment
Don_Covin 53 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 2 hours ago, agsteele said: Legacy is going. Not necessarily immediately, but it is not even receiving palliative care. One day it will just stop working and then it will be gone. If it breaks because of an OS update then you are likely to lose the local notes as well. The online notes will still be accessible in V10 but local could go overnight, without warning and not as a direct result of a decision by Evernote to stop the Legacy app. @agsteeleThe biggest risk to their notes is to leave them in Legacy. Start migrating sooner than later. Even if they don't just drop access to local files, if something does go wrong there's not much hope of support or recovery (I'm guessing)... I'm a bleeding edge beta kinda guy so...Ā Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 Two more questions: Ā How do I view all local notes in v7? How do I de-localise them? so they become global? Link to comment
Don_Covin 53 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, peterlemer said: Two more questions: Ā How do I view all local notes in v7? How do I de-localise them? so they become global? @peterlemer When you say de-localise do you mean in V7 or when upgrading? If upgrading them you will be prompted to use the tool to convert them into V10 https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005107-Convert-local-notebooks Link to comment
Evernote Expert agsteele 3,059 Posted April 10, 2022 Evernote Expert Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Don_Covin said: agsteeleThe biggest risk to their notes is to leave them in Legacy. You said it so much better than me 1 Link to comment
Evernote Expert agsteele 3,059 Posted April 10, 2022 Evernote Expert Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, peterlemer said: How do I de-localise them? so they become global? In v7 - Move them to a notebook that isn't local 1 Link to comment
Don_Covin 53 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 As for viewing all local notes it used to be just a folder in the Evernote directory marked Local Ā if Iām not mistaken. Donāt remember as I never used it much and it was just a folder on my desktop when I did.Ā Link to comment
Level 5 PinkElephant 8,754 Posted April 11, 2022 Level 5 Share Posted April 11, 2022 You will be prompted when upgrading - but you can as well convert them later. Just make sure you create an ENEX-Export of your local notebooks and save it away before upgrading. All cloud synced notes from legacy clients are already synced to the EN server, and will download from there to the v10 client. Local notebooks are not synced - you hold the only copy of these data in your local database. If you have a backup of your computer, the local notebooks will probably be there as well. But there is no server backup for the locals, so it is good practice to create a backup before tinkering with updating. How to find them: Go to the notebook tab in the left panel. Local notebooks will show a text in notebook view: Ā Link to comment
peterlemer 14 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Finally found a way to convert local to nonlocal - simply create a new notebook with a similar name ( not the same) and move the notes across, then re-position new notebook, delete old. 1 Link to comment
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