Tiggerlou

Thanks TWLow, that's what I was wondering!

To Pink Elephant: I wasn't complaining about being "forced" to use a feature, of course not, LOL.... I was wondering if I would be charged more money for that feature when it becomes a paid feature. That's a very reasonable question, I think. The notification I got this morning didn't make that clear, so I posted on the forum to get clarification, a bit of friendly help.

The notice I got this morning says that Tasks is free, for now. Is this like one of those temporarily free subscriptions where they get your payment information, then later on, you're paying for it unless you cancel it? 😞 I actually don't have any use for a task management feature, not at all. I've been happily using other task management software for many years. So when I saw the notice about it on my phone this morning, I said, "Nope. Not for me." Unfortunately, Evernote didn't let me start up the software without clicking yes. I kept restarting it over and over, tried and tried to get Evernote started without clicking that. There was no escaping that dialog box, no way to simply start Evernote without it. Eventually, I think I accidentally did accept. Arrgh! So.. have I inadvertently signed up for a paid feature that I do NOT want? P.S. I have a Premium account.

Thanks for all this detailed information. I really appreciate it.

Believe me, I'd love to upgrade. The problem is some very old outliner software that I've used for many MANY years. Hundreds of really important business and personal documents are in that software. Couldn't find a good replacement for that outliner until recently and I've been laboriously converting them all. That is an enormous job, which i've only been able to do by dribs and drabs. Can't upgrade to Win10 until that's done. I have no idea what it means to run Win7 in a virtual machine. What does that mean? Oh and DUH. It didn't occur to me to login to the web version --THANK YOU for that suggestion! That means I can keep using Evernote until I finish the document conversion and upgrade.

There's a forum discussion for Windows 10 and above. Another one for 6.25 and under. So... what happens to those of us on Windows 7? I'm still on Win7 for complicated reasons. It worked just fine until I had to reboot my computer a few days ago. Suddenly, clicking the desktop icon does absolutely nothing at all. Went on the forum to find out wassup and saw that someone said it only works on Windows 10 now. Whaaa?? I need Evernote for work and this is just awful. Please help.

Got it, thanks SO much!!

Okay, when I do that, I don't get every one of the sub-layers of nested tags, as listed in the left panel. I see food, then recipe notebook, then pantry. Just three layers. The sub-tags that I've already nested underneath that level are not listed. It just tells me that I have 44 tags inside of the pantry tag list. If I click pantry, I get that big bucket of tags, not sorted into their previously organized sub tags. In either case, I can no longer add new tags using that panel, so they will be grouped with those tags. I can't edit their names, or rearrange them into sub lists. If I click pantry, I do see the complete list of tags but they're all out of order (sorting by date is COMPLETELY useless to me). In that big bucket, all I can do is delete them. It appears there's no way to rename or move tags at all.

Here's all my tags in the "pantry" tag list, which has some sub-tags, for example 'extracts', which includes almond extract, anise extract, etc. But those are all in one big bucket, out of order.

That's not what I've got. This is what I'm looking at. These are all the tags I've got for cooking vinegars.They're not organized into sub tags.

From what I can see, the only thing we can actually do in the tag panel is delete tags. We can't add any new ones, we can't rename the ones that are in there. We can't change their order, or nest them under other tags.

The left panel at least does display the hierarchy of tags that got nested under other tags in the previous version of Evernote. In the tag panel, none of that hierarchy is visible, so moving things around in that hierarchy isn't possible. So... am I missing something useful in the tag panel? Why did you suggest I look at it that way?

The tag panel is, IMHO, a total mess. When I tried clicking the top header of all my food tag, the result includes tags that have nothing to do with food. All the tags are dumped into one big bucket, completely out of alphabetical order. When I click the sort button, that has no effect at all in the order they are displayed. Click by name going up? Nothing happens. Click by name going down? Nothing happens. Why give us a sort button if it does nothing at all? These tags are not organized by subtags in that panel. The filters are absolutely useless for my purposes. I don't care about when the tags were created or whether they include audio files. I want to sort them by NAME, like A. B. C. Why should that be so hard? We can only see a half dozen tags at a time in that panel, and there's no way to drag and drop in that list at all. The left panel is at least easier to read than that, although the drag and drop apparently doesn't work any more. So it appears we can only create new tags in one huuuuuuuuuge unsorted list now. Yet one more very useful feature, lost in this version of Evernote.

TashR, I'm discovering exactly the same problem. It looks like we can pick them up to drag and drop them under other tags. The icon for that tag appears to move up and down. But for some reason when we drop, the tags stay in exactly the same place as before. Is there something I'm missing on how to do this now? FYI, gazumped, I'm on Windows 7.

I don't see this filtering option on the mobile version of iOS. Is it just on Mac laptops? I cook with an iPad in the kitchen --or at least I used to...

I'd like to add something to this list. Apparently, searching by multiple tags to narrow down a search has been disabled (at least on mobile iOS), and that is heartbreaking. I have three thousand recipes, meticulously tagged by all ingredients, regional cooking, seasonal cooking, method of cooking (air fryer, ice cream maker, etc), and categories of dishes (quiche, hot beverages, etc). Until the recent new version, I could go to my recipes notebook, look to the upper right corner, and click in multiple tags to narrow down my options. I used to click: salad + seafood + ginger + Asian cooking. Voila, my three thousand recipes would be reduced to perhaps a half dozen along those lines. Or sweet potato + beer, dark + sausage. Or pears + cardamom + baking, sweets. You get the idea. Typing in search criteria requires me to remember the exact "spelling" of each tag, instead of typing in a few characters and having it auto-populate. Please don't suggest that I scroll down the lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng list of my tags, while garlic is burning on the stove. The fact that I can't return to the legacy version on iOS has made my expensive purchase of an iPad now wasted money, since bringing recipes to the kitchen is the main reason I bought the tablet. For years, I longed to be able to edit my recipes as I cook, instead of printing them out on the computer in my office, scribbling notes on paper --then never getting around to transcribing those notes. I *finally* saved up enough to buy the iPad, only to see my huge recipe collection on Evernote get crippled this way. Why, oh why should we have to give up such a useful feature as searching via multiple tags?? This turns my laboriously-organized Evernote cookbook into a clunky dinosaur. Major step backwards IMHO.

Thanks for your reassuring words. I totally agree that this would have gone better if they'd warned people. No way I would have upgraded. Okay... back to printing out recipes....

That means I can't use my iPad (iOS) for cooking any more --and that's the primary reason I spent *big bucks* on an iPad. I think anyone would get pretty hot under the collar about that. If I have to return to the Legacy version on my computer, that means I lose all the positive new features on the computer. It means I can never upgrade Evernote there, ever. Wouldn't that mess up syncing eventually, as Evernote continues to add new versions? More to the point, having to choose recipes on my computer in my office puts me back to the old clunky method of printing out recipes, scribbling down edits on paper as I cook, then accumulating stacks of hand-written notes that I never get around to transcribing into the computer. I bought an iPad, to never, ever have to do that again. 😞 I honestly do not see the point of eliminating such a very useful feature as searching for multiple tags at once. That, IMHO, is a major step backwards for Evernote. Really not a fan of this new version.

I've been an avid Evernote user for years, I've recommend it to all my friends. But as of the new version, it appears that it has lost some features that have been truly *essential* for me. Evernote has been first and foremost, my go-to meticulously-indexed cookbook. It's one of the major reasons I bought an iPad, so I could use it easily in the kitchen. I depend on it daily for that purpose. I have three thousand recipes (I know.. I'm a cooking geek), gathered over forty years and dutifully entered into Evernote from multiple sources. I've laboriously tagged every one of these recipes by ingredients, seasonal and regional cooking, methods of cooking (air fryer, bread machine, etc), and categories of dishes (quiche, hot beverages, etc). I've also used tags to organize several possible dishes for one meal. I might gather all possible recipes for a meal under the tag "Thursday" or "Thanksgiving", then whittle down those possibilities and then proceed to shop and cook. Until the recent new version, I could go to my recipes notebook, look to the upper right corner, and click in multiple tags to narrow down my options. I might select these tags: salad + seafood + ginger + Asian cooking. Voila, my three thousand recipes would be reduced to perhaps a half dozen along those lines. Another time I might select the tags for sweet potato + beer, dark + sausage. Or pears + cardamom + baking, sweets. You get the idea. The fact that suggestions for those tags would show up without having to type them in precisely was a very big help, because I sometimes put an exclamation point ahead of the name of tags to make them more prominent in a list. There is NO WAY I could possibly remember the exact "spelling" of every one of my tags, to enter them into a search box exactly as they are named. I've treasured the fact that the box when searching for tags would auto-populate with suggestions. I could simply click one tag, plus another, and another, to narrow down my possible recipes. These features are the primary reason I have joyfully used Evernote. They are the reason I've spent easily *hundreds of hours* over the years, organizing my recipes this way. But now it appears that those beloved features are long gone!! I've tried using the search feature, but instead of bringing up tags, it brings up bunches of irrelevant results from notes that aren't recipes at all. Apparently I can no longer search for multiple tags to narrow down my search, which has been absolutely essential to my using Evernote. I've tried typing in "tag:___" but I keep getting "no results" because I happened to type something like "chicken, baked" instead of "ckn, baked". If I have to agonize over the precise wording of a tag, over and over and over, or scrollllllllllllllllllllll through my extremely long list of tags, meanwhile garlic is burning on the stove, then no way. Absolutely. No. Way. Please help. I'm really hoping that these treasured features are not gone for good. From the looks of it, tagging has now been crippled in a way that looks utterly pointless to me. Do I need to now move hundreds of tagged recipes into separate notebooks? But that still doesn't replace searching for multiple tags. Honestly, what is the point of tagging if we can't use it to whittle down the notes within a notebook? Are they now completely separate functions? What's the point of that? I'm really afraid that my meticulously-assembled cookbook is now unusable, and that is heartbreaking. OMG.... the thought of starting over with some other note-taking app, converting three....... thousand ........ recipes........ 😞