jdmarch

7 hours ago, mdbs99 said:

If already exists a thread, I would like to continue in there. Thanks.

This is not a support forum. AFAIK there are no Evernote-monitored threads anywhere.

See @RussP41's post just now for submitting a support request to Evernote.

5 hours ago, AnneMKE said:

Just downloaded version 10 after using an old version as an uncategorized archive for many years.  It's unbelievably slow; I don't think I can stay with it for frequent daily use.

 

I'm still avoiding v10 myself based on reports here. A few questions: how many notes do you have? It would not be surprising for the initial startup / loading / indexing to be very slow. Is it still slow on subsequent usage?

Question to those of you (@agsteele, @fredhammersmith, etc) for whom EN on Windows is working well now -- how many notes do you have? Some of the early issues were not just about stability, but about response times with large databases. I have about 12K notes and am still skittish. Thanks!

First impressions of Workflowy are positive, for a clean, lean outliner.

Does anyone have any impression / evaluation of G Keep or MS OneNote for web clipping?

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[Things 3] won’t touch Windows (or Android)

Afraid that rules it out for me.

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WorkFlowy.  It's a lot like Ecco in that it is an outliner...

Ooh, must try!

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[EN] V10 was still too slow and kludgy (so many clicks) for my use case. 

How long ago was that? There are some encouraging sounds emerging in this thread recently for V10 as long as the database is small.

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I have a new project pin the ramp now and will be thinking about applying the new magic of Tasks to it.

Interesting. Maybe it would work to move my massive EN archives to a different platform, and consider using the new EN for more limited use-cases. Still haven't found a satisfactory Tasks app since Ecco died (around the turn of the century?)

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A company that starts to listen to its customers can make a revival - both emotionally and financially.

Nice when that happens...

3 minutes ago, RL7836 said:

Care to share what you went with? 

Yes, many of us are trying to assess our options, and would appreciate the info. This forum is one place where those can be discussed thoughtfully.

> links to all related notes

Tangentially.. I haven't done a systematic survey, but in recent days I've noticed that my note links are no longer working. (Formerly created in legacy, trying to use now in legacy)

Thanks @PinkElephant-- so you are using Mac and iOS versions?

> Some long term users are put off, missing features

Speaking as a long-term user myself, and I think echoing many others here -- it's quite the opposite. We're objecting to the apparent focus on features over stability and usability (performance).

I use the new Evernote on only one device -- my Android phone. 

Because it can take so incredibly long to start up that it becomes useless for quick notes, I started using the scratch pad, then transferring that to a note later.

Well guess what? Somehow the scratch pad ends up reporting conflicting versions. How does this make even the slightest bit of sense? What is it conflicting with, itself???

Windows is much much more attentive to backward compatibility than is Android (decades vs years!) I would not expect issues with Win 11 but it's a good point.

While we are discussing Android -- recently it took 2 minutes to start up, presumably from an update. Not great for notes on the fly. I've pretty much given up on relying on Evernote for these; instead I'll send myself a reminder and enter it in Evernote later when it's not time critical.

8 minutes ago, DarrenP said:

frustrated with the latest Windows version  v10.22.3

Darren, I recommend that you revert to using the legacy version 6.25.1.9091 -- you can find a download link somewhere in this long thread. For now, it still works fine.

36 minutes ago, WeCanLearnAnything said:

And I think the bolded section merits a response from an Evernote staff member.

Evernote staff do not participate in this forum. It's not at all clear to me that they even read it. A support ticket or Twitter might work better. (They certainly read Twitter, since they "Like" every favorable tweet with @evernote)

15 hours ago, Marre 86 said:

 

I agree with the evaluation, but the personalization to the developers (who are never the ones deciding the tradeoffs) is inappropriate, and the language is inappropriate and not useful. If you want to blame anyone, blame Evernote "management." 

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. I was then able to download and install 10.19 for Mac without any problem from the EN website. 

👍 likewise for Windows, thanks!

4 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Did you wait until it had synced all changes, or opened it and started typing away immediately ?

No, for 15 years I have grown accustomed to being able to start EN and type a note. If it now expects to be running permanently in order to be useful for quick notetaking or lookup, that's a strike against it. Although in fairness I *can* quit and restart and start typing, so there *is* some middle-ground capability.

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Beside this, there was 10.19 released tonight, that fixed (on my mac) a green loading circle that often came up when I started the app for the first time in the morning. It was anyhow not a big problem if the app was already open, but they fixed this loading sequence with 10.19.

Thanks, no updates available yet from 10.18.3 on Windows.

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will cost you less time than to prove me wrong here, and is more productive for you

Please! I have no desire to prove you or EN wrong. All I want is to regain the functionality that I've become dependent on over the years.

On 8/3/2021 at 8:10 PM, jdmarch said:

So much for my benefit-of-the-doubt theory that the new app might be running ok at small scale...

On a new Win machine where EN has not run for a week, started it up and tried to create a new note. After a few minutes of spinning, I gave up and used a different method. This morning I was finally able to create a note. And this is an account with only 2300 notes. 

Once again -- this is a slow-moving train wreck.

9 hours ago, SacKen said:

I only have about 20 notebooks and only two of them have double-digit notes in them (still only about 20-25 notes in those). All on a Samsung M.2 SSD and an internet connection suitable for my kids to not complain when gaming. So this is not a size or hardware issue in any way.

So much for my benefit-of-the-doubt theory that the new app might be running ok at small scale...

1 hour ago, fredhammersmith said:

Frankly,. I think. Nimbus is getting there. I still prefer Evernote for its general look and nimbus" Export function is a (big) problem but there are many beautiful features and they are quite open about their development. 

Any idea how Nimbus performs with tens of thousands of notes? It seems that the Evernote twittersphere is agog with newcomers who love the shiny new features, but I would guess that as newcomers, they have more like hundreds of notes than the tens of thousands that are making the new Evernote unusable for oldtimers.

Android issue again. Opened EN... took 30 sec to start, not like the old days, but it did start and I was able to search for a note ok and open it to read. But when I tried to edit it, just spin, spin, spin. Not a long note -- a page or two.

Fortunately I still have legacy on a Windows laptop and was able to do the edit there. The edits then appeared on the Android within a few minutes (not sure exactly, I did not check immediately.)

I don't remember if I said this before -- I have about 11K notes

Others have reported this, but just to confirm... a few days ago I wanted to make a very quick note on my Android phone. Since, as a paying user of more than 15 years, I still sometimes imagine that Evernote is actually a working app, I opened it up, tried to create a new note, nothing, just frozen.... so I sent myself a gmail instead. Later when I had time for research I discovered that after force quitting and restarting  Evernote on the phone, I could create a note. 

As I've stated previously in this thread, I'm still using 6.25.1 on Windows. And it still works.

Just a minor note about latest (EN 10.13.4) on MacOS 10.15.7. (This is not a critical installation for me, so I keep it updated -- vs my critical Windows installation which I keep on 6.25.1.)

Today, started EN, wrote a new note, seemed fine. Then tried to open another note by clicking on its snippet. Just blank. Likewise for other notes. Waited a few minutes, no change. Quit and restarted EN. Now I was able to open notes.

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29 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

whereas in legacy it means „transferred to the local database

Interesting! So when there are 10 unsynced notes, they are just in the program's memory, not even in the local database? You're sure of that?

3 minutes ago, OrbWeaver said:

Perhaps I spoke too soon. I did some "real" work using V10 on Win10. Didn't do too well so I tried a super-scientific test. I'm a two-finger, hunt-and-peck typist. I clicked on "New note" and started typing the alphabet. When I finished I looked at the screen to see what had registered. My note consisted of "yz" and nothing else. Is that called "lag" or is it considered the new normal?

Thanks, OrbWeaver. I was just getting tempted to try an update. Will wait another month or more.