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I don't know if this is a lot of effort. Evernote basically implemented something similar with the Reminders in the "Snippet" view, where if you select a stack, the reminders are all organized by a notebook, each of which can be collapsed.

Did anyone figure out a good way to do this?

That works technically, but visually it’s not ideal. Also, if I have to retype the same phrase over and over again just go get the structure that I want, it tells me that the system that I’m implementing is not supported by the environment.

It’s basically what Dave and jefito above said. You can think of it as a special type of note within a notebook that would essentially act as a header for other notes. Would it be better than another level of sub-notebooks? I don’t know, just an idea based on what I saw implemented elsewhere and thought it was a helpful way to organize longer lists of items. For me when a list of notes gets longer than 6 or so items, it’s harder for me to grasp immediately what these items are and I actually have to read the titles with a different level of attention than just glancing at a list quickly.

You are probably right. I’ve no idea what’s easier to implement.

You could do that but without an ability to manually organize notes within a notebook, it gets messy. You need workarounds like a numbering scheme to make sure that all the notes are in the right order vis-a-vis the separator.

One alternative to multiple notebook levels could be adding an ability to add sections within each notebook so that there is at least a visual separation between the notes. I think, Todoist handles it beautifully in their latest beta version.

I'm sure it's hard not to when you spent the last decade in Evernote. I bet many people who switch to another platform secretly (or not so secretly) wish that Evernote did what they wanted it to in the first place so they never had to switch.

I agree that it's not necessary helpful. But I'm sure it's also cathartic for people to have a forum to complain and vent their frustration with Evernote (often not undeserved). Frankly, if Evernote we're doing such a bang-up job of keeping up with its users' needs and managing expectations, these conversations would not get as heated. I can't think of a forum for another software platform where people get as nasty and brutal to each other. Agree, except that if one has already switched to a different product or tried it, I don't see why that person would not share their experience here. Hopefully, that will save a few other people a few hours or a few dollars.

Why does it bother you that some other person found a solution to the problem in a form of a different app that he or she wanted to share here? If Evernote cannot meet a certain need, I don't see why it's an issue to suggest a different solution in a forum directed to Evernote users. It's like some Cold War era mentality - don't you dare cross the Iron curtain and say anything positive about the other side!

Why so much hostility and defensiveness? Even the behemoths like MS Word and OneNote can collapse text. If MS thought it was a "necessary" feature to include in their package (let alone Workflowy and Notion among the "newcomers" who have actually been around for years at this point ), it's not such a ridiculous thing to expect from Evernote who directly competes with these services. There is no need to admonish a person whose views have obviously been validated by Evernote's competition and are not limited to a single user in any imaginable way. In my view, the sad part is that even if Evernote does end up introducing this feature, it's still playing catch up (and not just with a very old user request) but also with feature parity with it's competition. At some point the users would want to mold the software into something that works for them; and not mold the way they work and think to fit someone else's vision for the software.

Agree on all counts.

Tried to use Notion exclusively for 2 months but now see myself going back to Evernote. The biggest challenge is getting information into Notion quickly. The organizational freedom in Notion is great, but I ended up spending too much time trying to figure out the best way to organize data as opposed to working with it. It did help me simplify how I use Evernote going forward, so in that regard it was a useful exercise.

What are your workarounds?

Unless Notion implements a true email integration (as opposed to relying on 3rd party services like Zapier, Workato or IFTTT), I don't see it being a strong contender to Evernote. One should not be paying premium subscription for a service and then require another expensive subscription just to get your data in. Until then it will be a fun toy or just a standalone tool that can complement someone's Evernote use but not replace it. I just don't see email going away, regardless of what collaboration features a note-taking or database platform may have. Everyone has access to email no matter what software they actually use. Not everyone can be convinced to take notes or store data or documents under specific constraints that each platform will inevitably impose. Any software developer who doesn't get it will fail eventually and will be relegated to some geeky niche (e.g., Workflowy), and that is why Evernote and OneNote are still around and have significant followings and why people use things like Trello even though it's nothing but an electronic version of post its. .