FredJ

4 hours ago, Feitz said:

Yes, I read that too, thought, it was already implemented as a files browser but it wasn't. Let's see...

 

EagleFiler is Mac only, unfortunately, Keep It also has an iPad client. 

Since both are storing notes as RTF / RTFD in a standard file-/folder structure, the files along with their (finder) tags can be accessed with 3rd party tools and via browser as well, I use Leap.app a lot. 

This is no alternative to a (working) native Windows or Android client though. But it will do for occasional access.

Here's a note I just ran into that's missing tons of untitled attachments...

45 minutes ago, Feitz said:

They are completely different, Keep It and Eaglefiler have similar functionality as Legacy, but use the file system for storage (Mac only), notes are stored as RTF / RTFD. 

This has added benefit, Keep It uses iCloud to sync and Eaglefiler can use any cloud service (including locally hosted). If you need xattr support you can use iCloud, Dropbox or Synology Cloud (on your own NAS) to sync.

You can access your files from outside of both, I like Leap.app a lot. Outside changes are reflected in the apps, tags are standard finder tags, giving you a whole bunch of options over Legacy, tag management especially of Keep It is superb.

Keep It almost looks like Legacy, both apps actually seem to work, support is superb.

For me this is perfect, I just need a reliable notes and attachments storage for documents and files. I already have apps for task management etc. and don't want AI, I have full-text search and tags.

So again I guess my question is, does EagleFiler work with Android and Windows too? or is it a completely Apple ecosystem?  Is there an Android client available?

3 minutes ago, Feitz said:

there is an ipad version for Keep It. Since it uses standard Mac file system and iCloud you can access all notes including tags etc. using 3rd party tools, even on the web (icloud). But of course this is different from having a real cross platform app.

 

How would you know? I had to use V10 on all Sonoma macs but since my main Macbook Pro is from 2015 I stayed with Monterey / Legacy until March. Nothing wrong with Monterey since it is still supported and gets security updates regularly.

But since the demise of Legacy in March thanks to OCLP I now run Sonoma without any issues and V10 with many issues on this MBP. 

Side note: OCLP / Sonoma runs smoothly on older, unsupported macs, in my case a MBP 15"  mid 2015 without ANY issue, so highly recommended.  

That's what i was saying... It's Apple only, and also no web.  So it's locked into Apple eco system.  Maybe ok for some, certainly not me.  Some limitations to be aware of, for sure.

1 hour ago, Feitz said:

I would totally agree,

- if there were only a couple of issues
- if there was a chance to get support within a reasonable amount of time
- if I had enough trust in V10 being at least a reliable base even for important stuff like Legacy definitely was
- if you would spare the rant against users with different experience from your own ('pity party')

As it is I would have to write tickets and answer unrelated support questions all day which I don't have time for.

Luckily I made a complete export to ENEX files right before Legacy stopped syncing, imported everything into EagleFiler and Keep It and will use Evernote only as a static data dump until my subscription expires in November.

Especially Keep It is like a clone to Legacy with added benefits, so I couldn't be more happy and encourage everyone who misses Legacy to give it a spin.

And if something goes wrong I get support repeatedly within a couple of hours including individual modifications to the apps that correct my  issues (found an issue with Eaglefiler with 'umlauts' and received an update within 2 hours (including analysing and recreating my issue, writing a fix and rolling out a beta just for me). 

Of course this kind of support is only possible with a small company, I wouldn't expect BS to react so quickly, but Evernote support has been abysmal not for the last few weeks but for the last few years when it was needed most and that is not something I can't accept with software that is so important to my work.

I see that BS are working to improve things but I have no confidence whatsoever in the code base they acquired so there will probably many more issues popping up. 

Since I now have two viable alternatives that do exactly what Legacy did and much more I will post issues here just for information and if others find them as well BS might react. 

 

"Keep It" only supports Mac / IOS and doesn't even have a web version.  So Evernote has cross platform beat in spades. 

For instance,  I have Macs and iPads, but also Windows and Androids.  

In all the many many problems I've had (every day more!), with this "upgrade"... i just realized that yes, i too have missing, and very important PDF clips!  Ho*y sh*t, thanks EN for such an unbelievably bad upgrade!  Now what!  

No, legacy wasn't perfect, but THIS is the craziest FORCED upgrade piece of ***** I've ever experienced (I've been in I.T. since 1980!)

So frustrating!

I'd be working full time for Evernote for free if i was properly testing, proving, and documenting everything!!!

How about at least a public admittance and apology, EN / BS ??

And no, i don't WANT to jump ship!

Has no one posted ANYTHING here since 22 hours ago?? Or am i just not seeing postings??

1 hour ago, enfan-01 said:

I would be very interested in financially contributing to a startup of programmers who used Legacy as their model for a new system.  V10 is so utterly F***c'd up that I can't even right-click to copy the name of a tag anymore.  Obviously, by the activity in this & other related threads, there are many MANY people who depended on EN for more than just a grocery list & we aren't here simply complaining about minor nuisances.  I was on a job site yesterday & couldn't even access attachments in my notes that I needed.

Please keep offering your workarounds, alternatives & ideas to those of us who care & actually need an app like Legacy!

Respectfully and SADLY, I just can't take this v10 much more, just SO many UNBELIEVABLE problems.  I'm going to start looking at and testing Obsidian. Is there a good A-Z that's NOT on this forum?  (I'm afraid this forum or (healthy) discussion may get shut down, so having it elsewhere would be a better idea (or at least duplicated elsewhere)...

When I have a note open, and it has a youtube link in it, in Small Preview mode, the CPU goes nuts.
It makes the fans on my MacbookAir come on! (Hardly ever does this normally)

Watch the cpu as i go onto and off the youtube link in my video below...

(and if i flip tto another app, it STILL consumes that cpu!)
V10 is a DISASTER for me, so far!!!, PLEASE FIX IT UP!

(This is just ONE of sooo many bugs/problems, but I don't have full time to document them (FULL TIME JOB))...

(I have ran Appcleaner, this is full new install!)

2 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

It is 💯 % dead. I am pretty sure the guys in the engine room are already busy dismantling all that is left.

I doubt that your claim of „most of the users“ is founded by any data. I am for example happy that they abandoned this black hole of a product platform some years ago and now finally pulled the plug on this dead weight.

I'll live with it, as long as BS now goes CRAZY and uses the resources and simplification to fix the myriad of problems!

Does v10 use a ton more hard drive than v7 legacy??

My two macs are now saying low space!

TONS of files under ~/Library/Application Support/Evernote/resource-cache/...

3 minutes ago, FredJ said:

Thanks...

I thought so, but just wanted to be sure

So "Evernote Helper" is the one to watch, right?

2 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

The one MacOS offers (or anything similar, several apps do the same).

Thanks...

I thought so, but just wanted to be sure

13 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

It will download a full copy on each Mac. I think currently more users than usual compete for bandwidth, which slows down the download. Eventually it will be complete.

Let the app running while the computer is on. It will download while in the background.

You can check in the activity monitor. When the app is not in active use, but there is still ongoing network traffic, the download is still going on. Once it is complete, keeping it updated will be near instantaneous.

We would like to get a download indicator similar to the one in the mobile client. No idea if this will happen one day..

Thanks...

Are you talking about the Mac Activiy Monitor, or is there also one in the Mac App that I'm failing to see?

2 hours ago, s2sailor said:

It's free.  That's the one.  After you uninstall, reinstall using the download from the Evernote site, and not from the Apple Store.  Also give it a few days to get your database downloaded, and hopefully this will take care of most of the problems you were seeing.

I guess my question is, what happens here, does the whole database get downloaded on each machine that I did (3 macs)?... Because I'm not seeing any huge download on my router at all, is this a trickle? And is it the whole database to each machine? (I hope so, and I hope that it speeds up each machine immensely, because it's so slow right now)... (before up cleaner and reinstalls)...

(And I guess that means I need to leave my laptops on all night all day for a few days? And how do I know when it's done?)

4 hours ago, s2sailor said:

Have you tried the uninstall with Appcleaner approach?  It sounds like an issue with your local installation.  Most uninstallers won't clean out everything but Appcleaner specifically for the Mac, or Revo for Windows is the recommended uninstaller.  Many find this works, so give it a go if you haven't already, and give it a few days for the local database to download and settle in.

Will try Appcleaner, thanks...

(Is this the Avast one that I have to pay for?)

Is there a link?  I found this one..

or... is this it?

https://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/

I have had nothing but tearing my hair with this new version, and my Mac is now hung up, fans running, and CPU Max'd out... See attached this is so 'completely' infuriating and frustrating... Literally hundred of issues, one after the other.  I can't get anything done!  Just fixing things it is fu**ing up on me.  I JUST WANT IT TO WORK, PLEASE!!!

36 minutes ago, mackid1993 said:

No need for personal attacks.

Ya funny, sometimes the truth sounds like an attack, doesn't it!

PE you have trouble reading, but no trouble spouting!

Well that's what i use it for, and it's really bad at this point, ESPECIALLY for work...  I now get SO much less done in X time...

And holy s*it if you can't even do a grocery list... WTF??? LOL

My wife went back to a handwritten grocery list, if that says anything (although apparently EN isn't even looking at this, blah).... I just hope they make HUGE fixes to all the bugs and make it much faster... (and don't price themselves out of the market)...

Please... GO EVERNOTE & BS!

Ok, exactly as I thought, I guess

Thanks

9 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Sometimes this is automatically populated, such as when a note is clipped from a Website or made from a forwarded email, or sometimes when a note has a URL in its body. It can be edited to be whatever Website would be useful to you in connection with the note.

That helps, thanks

What is the purpose of URL in note info ??

(See screenshot)

Didn't realize that I can slide to the right to see more

so I'm good

Can I increase the number of recent notes in the widget?

(On my MAC APP)

I only see 6 on the HOME page, I'd like 8