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When I want to move a task from one note to the other (my use case: from the generic "Things to do" note to the appropriate project note), I have the option to create a new note (for my use case: a new project). However, I then do not have the option to choose a template for the new note. Instead, if I want to move the task to a new note with a certain template, I have to create the new note first with the template, then return to the task, and move it to the new note. This seems unnecessarily complicated; it would be very useful to be able to consistently use templates whenever a new note is created (including the "move task" dialog).

Hi all,

I just started experiencing the following issue: for some notes (all of them very recently edited), after I click the title in the note list, the note keeps loading in the note pane but the title or content do not show up; it just keeps showing the rotating green circle thing. When I open the note in a new window, it does work as it should (so perhaps it's not a syncing issue).  Other notes in the same notebook work perfectly. Opening and closing EN does not help. Needless to say, this is very annoying. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm using EN 10.50.10 on Windows 11.

Just to confirm that indeed this does not happen in the legacy version, so apparently it's not a "Windows issue" that could not be solved in EN. In that sense, I consider it a bug.

8 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Open keyboard shortcuts. Select the shortcut in question. Hover the mouse over it: To the right (!) of the shortcut name 3 dots appear. Click on them.

If Edit shows, you can change the shortcut combination to any other - take care not to create the next fuzz.

Thanks for suggesting the workaround, although indeed it can be quite a challenge to find an alternative shortcut combination that is both usable and does not create other issues. But looking at these setting also pointed me to the fact that there is also another shortcut for adding tags: F3 (CTRL-ALT-T is actually for "editing"). In many cases, that'll be sufficient I guess.

2 hours ago, gazumped said:

Hmmn.  Tried on Win11 / EN 10.49.4 (10.50 has been released) and didn't get anything but the tag I chose.  What Evernote version are you using/

10.50.10-win-ddl-public (3842)
Editor: v162.3.20111
Service: v1.62.2
 

5 minutes ago, agsteele said:

TRy switching keyboard in Windows settings. Maybe use the ENG/UK or ENG/USA setting on your PC. The best option will depend upon your keyboard layout. If you have the International keyboard selected then you probably have a keyboard layout that will be better suited by the USA settings. See if either of those fixes the issue for you. If so that will confirm the keyboard drivers being the issue.

Indeed it does not happen with ENG/USA, but given that I regularly write in Dutch, I need the INT layout. I don't actually remember this happening on older EN versions (before v10). Also, CTRL-ALT-t does not produce "þ" in other applications: in MS Office apps it produces "™"; in Sublime Text it does nothing. Both, to me, suggest that there should be a solution on the EN side...

Alright, I'll try that. It may be my monitor but I hardly see any purple at all. And of course it's not a big thing, but should also be easy to fix...

The pictures speak for themselves:

I find being able to differentiate between notes with and without open tasks quite useful, and I also like dark mode...

Just a small thing but annoying nevertheless: whenever I add a tag using CTRL+ALT+t keyboard shortcut, EN adds a "þ"to the note (and opens the tagging dialog). I'm on Windows 10, using  an ENG/INTL keyboard layout.

I know, and I've in fact been using the legacy version for the past two  (😱) years . But I'm aware that the legacy version won't be around forever, so I've tried to get to terms with V10. So far, unsuccessfully, mainly due to the fact that continuing to rely on tags for projects seems incompatible with using tasks in my workflow. I can think of alternative setups that might work (e.g., keeping al todo's for a project in a single note per project) but revising my system would be a huge investment and I can't really afford to experiment.

4 minutes ago, Boot17 said:

I use Evernote Tasks (and notes and checklists and...) for serious work and I find Tasks -- the way they are -- very useful. (Not that they still can't be improved though.) Not everyone's workflow is the same.

 

Sure, I'm not trying to argue that EN should be adapted to specifically fit *my* workflow, and I don't doubt that the current setup works for other people who do equally (or more) serious work. What I'm annoyed about is that my *existing* workflow with Evernote was broken because key features were changed or dropped. My impression is that the people at Evernote underestimate the impact that this has on people who use Evernote professionally.

1 hour ago, Mike P said:

You can use the advanced search syntax. For example:

reminderTime:day -reminderTime:day+7

will give you a list of reminders due in the next 7 days. Obviously once you have set up the search string as you want it you can save the search and even make it a shortcut.

See https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php for more options when searching for reminders.

That's helpful, thanks!

Thanks for this suggestion. However, I can't go and manually re-tag hundreds of todo-notes, associated with dozens of different tags. Also it seems weird as a workaround given that EN has an elaborate tag system in place, which has been heavily promoted as well. And the technology for filtering notes with tasks for a given tag is already implemented; it's mostly that the interface does not allow easy access to it.

I second this. I used to use Evernote for a GTD-like workflow with tags for projects, and reminders marking todo's, and I'm still struggling to implement something similar in EN 10. Currently there seems to be no easy way to list all the tasks associated with a given tag. Yes, I know I can select a tag and then add a filter for "contains task" but this is rather cumbersome if you need to review many projects, and even then it does not list the actual tasks but only the containing notes.

Conversely, in the task view, I cannot sort or filter by tag or even see tags. Curiously, when selecting a tag, I CAN choose to list reminders instead of notes, but then again, the reminder workflow is severely crippled as compared to the earlier versions, for example, I can no longer get a usable overview of all my open reminders (the reminders tab in the notes list shows reminders with no date BEFORE reminders with the closest due date).

So, any advice on how to use tasks for a GTD -like workflow with projects (preferably with tags representing projects) would be highly appreciated! 

Overall I'm still very disappointed that a product that I've used for years as a paying customer has now broken my workflow by removing features and functionality. Sometimes it feels like the people at Evernote do not realize that people are using their software for real serious work.

Sure, I can imagine why it's handy, but isn't it good practice to tell the user why their data are needed before the data are handed over? Note that Evernote's  privacy policy, which the sign-in page refers to, does not even mention Google Calendar specifically.

Today I thought I might try the new(ish?) integration with Google Calendar. I clicked on the widget, which took me to the "Evernote wants to access your Google Account" sign-in page. To my surprise it says that Evernote not only wants to access my Calendar events, but also my contacts. Why? To me, this feels like a step too far, as this would not only jeopardize my own privacy but also that of my contacts. Of course I'm fully aware that by keeping my stuff in the cloud I'm already putting my privacy at risk, but handing over my contacts data from one company to other for no apparent reason does not feel right. So which functionality exactly in Evernote requires this? And wouldn't it be nicer if the user had a choice in this (potentially limiting functionality)?

I have a number of checklists that I reuse frequently. In the old Evernote, I could right-click in the node and uncheck all todos, but that feature seems to have disappeared in EN 10. Now, I have to manually uncheck all individual check boxes, which is really annoying. Or am I overlooking something? <insert usual rant about why on earth EN would drop features etc.>

1 hour ago, DTLow said:

Due date should have been added at the note level   

 

But that was already there in the form of reminders, wasn't it? It seems that the reminder functionality is being downgraded (e.g, the checkbox in the reminder list view is now gone) in favor of the much less usable task functionality. I don't get it.

Well, but Evernote has introduced reminders for notes years ago, clearly trying to cater to people who want to use it for managing tasks as well as for note taking. The beauty of that, in my opinion, was that it allowed me to task as well as all kinds of other information related to projects (background information, ideas, etc) in one searchable environment, in combination with Evernote's fabulous capture-everything capabilities. If I'd move to a plain task manager app, I'd lose that.

Thanks for your answer. However, creating notes with single tasks is still rather awkward. For one, in the overview of tasks, only the notes in which these tasks live are shown as metadata, and not the metadata for the notes. So I can add tags for projects, context, etc to the notes, but I can't easily manage tasks using these tags. Also, having to manually create a task in every note is rather annoying if task management is your main usage of Evernote.

In Joplin, one can easily convert a note into a task and vice versa. Something like that would be ideal, I think.

In any case, may I suggest that you discuss Mac issues in the Mac portion of this forum...

1 hour ago, Mike P said:

It works for me but doesn't look as though it has worked! If I am editing a note I would expect a blue box to appear around the current note and the edit menu to disappear. I don't get that but pressing the arrow keys moves me through the note list not through the current note.

 

Thanks, but that's not what happens in my case. When I'm editing a note, CTRL-ALT-\ actually inserts a special character. From other context, nothing happens and I cannot move around in the note list after I pressed this shortcut. I tried replacing the shortcut with another (CTRL-SHIFT-\) that is not already linked to a special character but that does not change the focus either.

I understand the difficulty with changing the status of notes, but I also note that the current implementation of tasks is fundamentally at odds with any GTD- oriented productivity approach in which tasks are the basic unit. With tasks living in notes, they are difficult to manage. Another but related issue I currently experience is that anything I capture with EN (eg., e-mails sent to EN, pictures taken, quick notes) becomes, of course, a note. Many of these things imply tasks belonging to existing projects, but currently I see no straightforward workflow for converting something that arrived as a note into a task belonging to an existing project. Any suggestion on that would be welcome. For now I'm sticking to my old system of keeping notes as actions with reminders attached, but I find that with the new version the use of reminders has become a lot less elegant.

Keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work in many cases. For example, CTRL-ALT-\ is supposed to set the focus to the note list (a feature I missed dearly in earlier versions) but does nothing. CTR-ALT-1 opens home, but CTRL-ALT-2 (notes, supposedly) again does nothing. Or do I misunderstand what these shortcuts are supposed to do?

+1 on this. Extremely annoying!

But now it's gone again. Can we please please please have this back?

In the current public version 6.14.5.7671, zoom is still missing!