johnm243

Still works but I get the orange bar that says “This version is out of date. You must install the new version to continue using Evernote." . There are several things that Legacy does better and that is why I still prefer it and hate Evernote 10. I posted this during the Evernote Beta 2 back in 2020: Evernote Beta 2 Issues - First Look (Posted 2020.05.09) https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/127949-evernote-beta-2-issues-first-look/ As far as I know, Evernote 10 does not have Outlook Integration (which I use several times a week). Nor can we control the interface (I use the controls I have added every day in Legacy). I also don't believe we can change the default fonts in Evernote 10. At least we can't in Tool > Settings. As I used to train people how to layout books, I detest the default Evernote 10 fonts! I have been paying for Evernote since October of 2008. I hope to move away from it very soon!

I got it on Windows 10 @Regor ! Time to move from Evernote! I have been testing Joplin. The conversion from Evernote is excellent (albeit a bit slow). But it is the only app that I have tested that converts Evernote without data loss. I'll try Notion as well again in case they have fixed the Evernote import I complained about several months ago... Here is some info on importing from Evernote. This weekend, I will be testing the Joplin Cloud so that I can make sure I can have my Joplin Notes on my phone and tablet. John

Same reason I still use Legacy @BrenF! If v. 10 had the features I use every day, I would have moved over to it long ago! John

Most welcome @PinkElephant!

It actually imported all of my Evernote tags @Dave-in-Decatur! And, when I clicked on a tag in the Tag section, Joplin presented all of the Notes that had that tag, just like Evernote. Searching is very fast. I chose Dropbox as the place to save my data so that I can sync between machines and to the Joplin app. My initial import was HTML, not Markdown... John

In case anyone is interested, I have 9,856 notes in Evernote and my EXB file is just under 2 GB. The ENEX File I exported took up 84 MB and the Joplin data directory the import created is 61 MB in size. John

For those who prefer Legacy, I think I have found a replacement for Evernote! A friend who is into open-source apps mentioned that she used Joplin (https://joplinapp.org/). I downloaded it and it looks a bit like Legacy. I have mentioned elsewhere that other apps were unable to import my Evernote ENEX files. As an example, Notion support told me back in January that they had escalated my case to development for a resolution to my import issues. I just exported my smallest Evernote stack (249 notes in 6 notebooks) into ENEX format then imported it into Joplin. I was stunned: all 249 notes were rapidly (less than 5 minutes!) imported into a notebook with the same name as my Evernote stack! Before this afternoon, I was never able to get more than a couple of dozen notes imported in other apps! And at the top of the notes list in the notebook were two notes I modified this morning! For those who use Evernote stacks like I do, Joplin has a Notebook > Sub-notebook > Note type of configuration. So we should be able to reproduce our Stacks > Notebooks > Notes configuration from Evernote. I'm going to learn how to use Joplin over the next month. Based on my experience this afternoon, I think I will be able move from Evernote to Joplin long before my next subscription payment is due in early 2024! John

I agree 100% about the wasted space @Elliot Holt ... and that's not even one of my major concerns! I am intrigued by your comment: I'd like to know what that new platform is. I have tried several but none were able to import my 2 GB of notes. Notion support told me that improving support for Evernote imports is on their development roadmap ... but they cannot tell me when it will be fixed! Thanks, John

Thanks for the macro idea @agsteele, I'll see if I can reproduce that! Best, John

If v. 10 had the features I use all the time in Legacy, I would have dropped Legacy last year also. FYI, that was the last time I took a close look at the features in v. 10 vs. the features I use all the time in Legacy!

@PinkElephant, I was responding to @s2sailor !

@bmcl26 I believe you are synching your Outlook calendar with Google Calendar. Legacy Evernote has a button that allows users to take an email and save it to Evernote. I use it 2 to 4 times a week! John

@Sugeeth Krish every CRM I have used allows you to change fonts. And they are all cross-platform (HTML, Android, & iDevice). So if they can do it, Evernote can!

Yeah @s2sailor, that's the same I've found. And the ones that have most of the features I want (especially Notion) cannot import my over 2 GB of notes in Evernote! As I noted elsewhere 1. In Legacy, I use the customizable toolbar every day! 2. I detest the 6 fonts that are available with Evernote 10. Every other app I have allows me to change the default font, why can't Evernote? 3. I cannot turn off auto-formatting of bullets and numbered lists in Settings. Why not? 4. I just looked and didn't see any way to connect up Evernote to Outlook. I use that at least 2 times every week!) I find those 4 to be the most frustrating! If they were added to Evernote 10, I would gladly continue with Evernote. I'll add testing v. 10 to my list of summer projects. But I find using Evernote w/o the features I use every day incredibly frustrating. And I really don't like paying for something I find frustrating! John

Thanks @s2sailor. I find it interesting that there are more fonts on this forum than are available in v. 10??? I looked for Outlook Mail functionality (https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005997). It mentions outlook.com and Office 365. I have Outlook 2021 Desktop for Windows. So it appears as Outlook integration has been deprecated except for online versions of Outlook. John

If, at some point, I have to use v. 10 until I find a replacement for Evernote, I will do that. Until that point comes (ie they delete Legacy from my computers), I'll keep on using Legacy! (I have never used v. 10 except to test it to see if it's worth switching over so never have seen the problems @PinkElephant mentions... @PinkElephant is correct: finding an acceptable alternative is a pain. I have tried a couple that didn't work as well as Legacy so abandoned them. Notion is the best of the bunch ... but I have too many notes in Evernote to convert them efficiently. Notion support says a fix is on their development plan ... but no date has been announced! Best, John

Thanks Dave. Most of what I was complaining about with the beta back in September, 2020 appears to have been fixed. However: 1. In Legacy, I use the customizable toolbar every day! 2. I detest the 6 fonts that are available with Evernote 10. Every other app I have allows me to change the default font, why can't Evernote? 3. I cannot turn off auto-formatting of bullets and numbered lists in Settings. Why not? 4. I just looked and didn't see any way to connect up Evernote to Outlook. I use that at least 2 times every week! I find those 4 to be the most frustrating! If they were added to Evernote 10, I would gladly continue with Evernote. Otherwise, I'll keep on looking for a replacement. I hope that Notion will come up with a fix for importing huge Evernote DB's like mine! John PS: except for advanced searching, the new features you mentioned are not important to me.

Thanks Dave. You can see my reply above! John

@Federico Simionato I will not use the new Windows App, features that I still use constantly were removed in v. 10. Back during the beta (2020!), I (and many others!) complained about missing features. Our requests for the features we used in what became Legacy were ignored! This is my post "Evernote Beta 2 Issues - First Look" from September 5, 2020: 1. Outlook Integration was not installed 2 We used to be able to control the interface. I added controls I used all the time in the Toolbar at the top: I have New Note | Activity | All Notes (I used this multiple times every day) | Sync 3. We don't need New Note & Search in the shortcuts panel. In the old one, having Search at the top of the snippets list is much better. New Note can go in the toolbar like in the old Evernote. 4. More wasted space with Account Name on the left 5. The old list of shortcuts (I have many) was much tighter than the new list. 6. We should be able to reindex Evernote 7. We used to be able to control the defaults in Tools > Options. My default font changed and I don't like the new one 8. New notes get added to the last notebook used; I used to have a default notebook for new notes 9. New titles don't go in automatically 10. Click a link, it opens up the URL instead of going directly to it 11. Moving a note is a pain 12. When is sync happening 13. I turned off automatic numbered lists in the old Evernote, how do I do that in the new Evernote? 14. Evernote isn't in the dictionary (underlined in red as if misspelled) How many of those issues have been resolved in the most recent version of v. 10? Personally, I have been looking for a replacement for Evernote for quite some time. Unfortunately, as my total note size is well over 2GB, converting my notes into potential replacements has been a major issue. So I keep on renewing my Evernote subscription! Until I find a replacement for Evernote, I will continue to use the Legacy Edition. Of course, if all of the issues I brought up above have been (or will be) fixed, I will stay with Evernote ... and start to use v. 10! Meanwhile, is there anyway to stop the message "Let's update your app. A new version of Evernote is available. Update to New Windows Client (398256)..." from appearing? Thanks very much, John

I am getting this message more and more frequently! I will not use the new Windows App, features that I still use constantly have been removed in v. 10. So, until I find a replacement for Evernote (converting my GB's of notes into another app has been a major issue when I have tried), I will continue to use the Legacy Edition. How do I stop this message from appearing? Thanks very much, John

I know @Mike P, they didn't listen to us and released this disaster anyway! I posted Evernote Beta 2 issues - First Look back in early September (https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/127949-evernote-beta-2-issues-first-look/) with 14 issues I found. None have been fixed. Thanks to @gazumped, I found the Legacy Edition and have installed it. My Premium subscription expires in the spring. If they haven't fixed v. 10 by January, I will start looking for alternatives. Best, John

Just read The new Evernote 10 Version List of Missing Core Features (https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/129055-the-new-evernote-10-version-list-of-missing-core-features/). Looks like there are lots of old Premium users (like me - since 2008) who are ticked off and looking at alternatives. Seems like this release was not well thought out. They need to use an app like UserVoice or GetSatisfaction so that they can understand what users want!

Thanks @DTLow, good to hear!

Thanks Gazumped, I have just installed Evernote Legacy 6.25.2. Does this mean that features I use all the time will not be in Evernote going forward? Outlook integration Custom Toolbar Interface improvements (shortcuts is huge compared to Legacy Being able to change defaults Thanks again, John