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2 minutes ago, gazumped said:
Wow - downbeat much?
Yes, the huge price upgrade has left a bad taste in my mouth for EN and it’s new management. I’ve been a paying subscriber for about 15 years, but the new pricing is totally off the top, considering that one can get a Microsoft 365 family subscription for $99 a year!
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18 minutes ago, Jon/t said:
Just tried exact match searches using the Windows app and works as expected. It finds the phrase inside images, spreadsheets and PDFs as well so check to see if any of your notes contain these with the search phrase.
If you don't want to contact support, do a full uninstall/reinstall and give it some time to re-index all the notes... see if it works then then contact support if not.
Thanks. It doesn’t work for me on the iPad or Web version (so reinstalling the app won’t make a difference if it also doesn’t work on the web version). If it worked for you, I wonder if EN doesn’t like the quote characters generated by the iPad Keyboard? I know that’s far-fetched, but I don’t know what else could be happening. I sent a message to tech support, but I suppose I’ll get the same runaround I’ve gotten with other requests.
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12 minutes ago, gazumped said:
document the search and the results and copy your activity log and feed it all back to Support. They need actual cases to work out fixes...
Thanks, but in my experience as a EN user for about 15 years, EN tech support usually makes you go useless hoops and doesn’t resolve the issue. I can only imagine how bad things have gotten now under the new management…
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According to EN, a search of two or more words enclosed within quotes, only returns notes that include the word string. I’ve always seemed to have gotten erratic search results using this method, as it usually retuned many additional notes that did not include the string of words. But now, it seems that EN just returns any note that contains the words within the quotes, so it no longer seems to work as an exact match for the string of words, but rather works like a Boolean expression where the words are combined with the AND operator.
I’ve having this issue with EN running on my 2022 iPad Pro, running iPadOS v16.6.1 and according to the AppStore, I’m running the latest version of EN. I also tried the web version of EN and got the same problem when running a search using multiple words within quotes.
has anyone else observed this? Is there a fix or workaround?
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On 10/23/2023 at 3:36 AM, Federico Simionato said:
Quick one to let you know that we started the rollout for AI-Powered Search on mobile too!
Make sure you update to mobile 10.57.0, as the previous version contains a performance bug on AI-Powered Search.
When running an AI search, it seems to lock up Evernote on my 2022 iPad Pro 11” running iPadOS 16.6.1. The buttons on the left become unresponsive and the only way to get back to normal is to close EN and re-open it. The AppStore says that I’m running the latest EN version.
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38 minutes ago, Boot17 said:
But if you don't use Publish and you use iCloud or Github syncing or some other service to sync and you are just using it for personal use, it could be free to use too
Doesn't obsidian.md use a proprietary database? From what I understand, syncing any database through a Cloud system is not advisable.
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2 hours ago, psaf01@gmail.com said:
After Evernote I switched to Obsidian.md
Do I read this correctly, that if you add the add-ons for Sync on all devices and web publishing, that costs $16 a month for both services or $192 a year? By this standard, EN is a bargain…
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2 hours ago, MvdH said:
True, but I use EN 80% of the time and Office 365 20% of the time, thus EN is worth more to me than Office. 🙂
I never use any applications made by M$, as I’m an Apple user and have no need for Microsoft products. How long one uses an app is one way to judge its worthiness. However, when comparing an app’s value you have to compare it to other products and what they offer for their price. In the case of Microsoft 365, you get a number of extremely versatile apps for $100 per year, whereas EN’s versatility and usefulness is limited by comparison while its price is a lot more expensive.
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5 hours ago, PinkElephant said:
I wouldn’t compare subscribing to EN to entertainment channels, however
Exactly! That’s why I previously compared EN to Microsoft’s 365 offering, and using this comparison EN’s new pricing fails miserably. A Microsoft 365 subscription at $100 per year offers access to multiple productivity applications, whereas EN at $130 or $170 offers access to a single application.
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2 hours ago, PinkElephant said:
Who has a grieve with EN should issue a support ticket,
I did, but it didn't get me anywhere...
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6 hours ago, pjbeee said:
A search in NoteJoy for (for example) microsoft browser will return ALL results containing microsoft OR browser, NOT just notes that contain both words, which is what EN does properly
I get erratic search hits on EN all the time. And the search results usually differ between devices.
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5 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:
You need to have an advanced master in selling snake oil to understand these twists. We minions will never catch the logic behind it - that's maybe the secret that makes it effective.
One doesn’t need to look too far to see examples of marketing geniuses causing significant economic losses for their companies. But it’s not only the marketing people that are at fault, it’s the entire corporate structure that marches in lockstep…
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5 minutes ago, pjbeee said:
Logged into EN to cancel my sub, effective in a few days when the annual agreement renews, and ONLY THEN do they offer me 40% off.
Someone else mentioned this 40% discount before. So I contacted tech support and asked them to extend the discount and I was told that they’re not offering any discounts. I don’t understand the marketing genius thinking behind all these policies. First, piss off long time subscribers by increasing their subscription cost by about 130% and then when they decide to cancel their subscription, offer them a 40% discount. Both these policies alienate the subscribers, as evidenced by this long thread. If they’re willing to cut the price by 40%, why not offer the lower price from the get go, which will make the price increase more acceptable?
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2 hours ago, tymbee said:
there is no way to do any kind of bulk export from EN
I haven’t tested it, but here’s their write up on using their importing tool from EN (I don’t know about encrypted notes).
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2 minutes ago, pjbeee said:
Not sure Teams is an apples-to-apples comparison. But isn't Teams bundled with most if not all Microsoft 365 subs, and is much less than that?
Teams is the highest subscription available for EN. I don't follow your comment about it being bundled with MS 365 subs...
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4 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:
Since I work alone, it doesn't sound like it would suit me.
$4/month is the spot that Evernote doesn't have, and which relatively light users often request. $8/month for Plus = $96/year, $36 less than Evernote's current Personal, and $12/month Premium = $144/year, $26 less than Evernote's Professional. The price differences are noticeable, but not overwhelming, IMHO.
I think that their solo or Plus plan will work for people that work alone. Also, I don't think that their Premium plan compares to EN's Pro plan--a more apt comparison is the Teams subscription which goes for $21.83 a month or $262 per year, which is a significant difference to NoteJoy's Premium at $12 a month or $144 a year.
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55 minutes ago, Twilight said:
I've been a subscriber since 2009. Initially, Evernote was an amazing application. However, over time, there has been a noticeable decline in the app's overall quality.
I've been a subscriber since 2008 and I must say that I disagree with your assessment. I think EN has improved greatly over the years. I can't speak about the clipper in Firefox, but it works pretty good for me in Safari on my Macs. But considering what other apps go for, $170 for EN is too much, but I'm going to stick around for another year while I look for other suitable alternatives...
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On 8/13/2023 at 4:59 AM, MK2020 said:
Many others might be in the same situation and switch as soon as there is a suitable alternative available.
Take a look at NoteJoy. They offer the three features you listed in your message and they are considerably cheaper. I plan on sticking with EN for another year, but will begin testing NoteJoy to see how well it can fill my needs. I’m very concerned that this EN price increase may cause lots of paid subscribers to leave EN and that may threaten the product’s longevity in the future.
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6 hours ago, idoc said:
I am absolutely dependent on EN and paying another $70 is not going to change that.
In my Case it’s going to be an extra $100 in addition to the $70 I’m already paying. But I plan to stick around for another year, because like you I use EV daily for just about everything. On the other hand, my bigger concern is what will happen if EV ends up losing 40 or 50% of their subscription base, due to the excessive (IMO) price increase.
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6 hours ago, PinkElephant said:
MS is mainly selling to enterprise customers, that’s their main target group
Doesn’t Evernote do the same? They have placed a lot of emphasis on the Teams version, with many features that are of no interest or use to solo users.
Also, according to Investopedia, MSTF’s revenues are as follows: Intelligent Cloud: 35%; Productivity & Business Processes: 31%; and More Personal Computing: 34%. So the notion that they mainly sell to enterprises is not accurate, as Personal Computing makes up about 1/3 of their business revenues. -
To put the price increase in perspective, a Microsoft 365 family subscription is only $100 a year, while a personal subscription is even less at $70. This gives you access to 10 different apps, including Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, etc.
Contrast that to Evernote's new pricing of $130 and $170 for the Personal and Pro plans, respectively. How the heck can they justify that price is beyond me. I suppose it's a case of "what the market will bear." We'll have to wait and see whether Evernote users will renew their subscriptions or tell them to go pound sand. If the latter proves to be the case, the future of Evernote will be rather dubious...
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8 hours ago, bmcl26 said:
I take it you were on a discounted plan. The Normal Price of Pro since introduction has been $99.99 per annum.
I upgraded last year from the Personal to the Pro plan and the invoice for the year came out to $70. I thought that was the standard price, though now that I went back and looked at the receipt, I realize that I had gotten some credit for the unused remaining balance from the previous year, plus a 25% discount.
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9 hours ago, Cardin said:
Since you mentioned you use iPhone, presumably you may travel to areas where you have a network deadzone and there is little to none data availability.
From NoteJoy’s Help Center:
Offline access
Notejoy makes it effortless to browse all of your notes while offline, continue to edit notes and add new ones, and to seamlessly sync it all whenever you come back online. Notejoy's offline support also makes your overall Notejoy experience much faster by first loading notes from your local device before also checking Notejoy's servers for any changes.
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10 hours ago, Mia said:
So I REALIZE the Longevity of These APPS are fleeting.
We have created the ultimate disposable society. I wonder how future historians will find original sources of information, since the digital data we create today will probably be lost in the future or they will be unable to access our storage devices. And it’s only going to get worse with more and more of our data being stored on the cloud…
Heck, I have family photos from the early 1900s. I bet my kids and grandkids will not be able to find or access the photos we took when they were growing up, which is sad for preserving family roots.
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in Evernote General Discussions
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Sorry, but you missed the point. I was comparing the subscription price of MS 365 Family to EN. As you know, MS 365 gives you a number of apps whereas EN only gives you one app. In other words, by comparison, EV’s pricing is outrageous!