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Lazza

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  1. 8 minutes ago, Frank.dg said:

    And using STFU is respectfully disagreeing?

    Nope, that's why I represented the Evernote policy as that. Because that is what they actually told their customers: "shut up, this is it and don't you dare complaining about the sudden 40% increase, even though we do not have any new feature and you've been regularly paying for years... we simply don't care". Of course "gurus" like you continue to carry the exact same message to former (or current) Premium members who expressed the fact that they do not like the new prices.

    12 minutes ago, Frank.dg said:

    Might they not charge what they please

    Yes.

    12 minutes ago, Frank.dg said:

    and not have others undermine their decisions

    Ah, so Evernote wants to be exempt from criticism? Sorry, no, that's not how it works. People are going to express their POV no matter what. If it is not on this forum, it will be on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, personal blogs, whatever.

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  2. 2 hours ago, chirmer said:

    I didn't equate the two services as being offering similar features. I simply compared willingness to pay a certain amount for one set of features against the outrage at paying a smaller amount for an even greater set of features.

    You are:

    1. assuming that Evernote has a greater set of features (therefore you are comparing)
    2. impying that the Evernote features are more important than Netflix

    Those are just opinions (that we may or may not agree with) but it's basically an apples and oranges thing. Not to mention the fact that the "outrage" (how you call it) is deserved because they raised prices for current Premium clients by around 40-50% and dropped features from the Free version without notifications, not because paying is considered a bad thing.

    2 hours ago, chirmer said:

    I was simply discussing the repeating trend of New Pricing/Feature Change for Free Users → Whining, Kvetching, and Threatening to Leave/How Dare They Want Money for the Service I'm Using for Free?! → Sticking Around Anyway that happens every time there's a change like this. As is evident by the 50+ pages of whining going on in the announcement thread :D

    Here you seem to assume that all the people who migrated to OneNote (including former Premium users) are liars and freeloaders who actually are continuing to use Evernote in secret while saying the opposite. You also seem to assume that anyone who disagrees with a "accept this change and STFU, you customers" policy is "whining".

    I respectfully disagree on that.

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  3. 15 hours ago, chirmer said:

    But they also have way more users

    So? License costs are not fixed. You don't pay the same licenses for 10 users or for 1 million users. Netflix has more users so they have to pay more licensing fees. The fact that they have more users does not mean that their price go down for this reason. If all costs were fixed, doing business would be so much easier. :)

    15 hours ago, chirmer said:

    I'm starting to lose count the number of times people threaten to leave over a wide variety of changes Evernote has implemented. [...] I've got no problem with the people who don't use it enough to pay that much downgrading.

    Except from the fact that (as I wrote before) I switched to Premium from a Free account just yesterday. So I don't understand why you think I am one of those who "threaten to leave".

  4. 4 minutes ago, chirmer said:

    so many people have and don't think twice about. Ask someone to give up Netflix and you get a blank stare, as if they weren't aware that was even possible

    I guess I am not one of those people then. I would definitely think twice, or even more times, before subscribing to Netflix.

    5 minutes ago, chirmer said:

    all it gives is movies/TV shows

    License cost, for broadcasters, are quite high. It probably requires much more investment to run a company like Netflix than like Evernote, but well... every company has to make their choices. I hope for Evernote that they will get a positive outcome in the long run, I just believe it won't be so.

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  5. I am actually one of those who switched from Free to Premium after their announcement (I have already been Premium in the past for several months and Plus sometimes). However, I decided to do it only after I found a way to pay a reasonable price for Premium (way less than 60€).

    Evernote is a good service, paying for it makes sense, paying that much for it doesn't (for my personal needs, of course).

    Needless to say, the fact that they do not respect their users who use top-class operating systems (e.g. Ubuntu, Fedora, and all Linux based systems) does not add a positive note to their decision to raise prices.

    2 minutes ago, chirmer said:

    it's cheaper than Netflix

    Yes but Netflix is a totally different service (and quite expensive one) so why this comparison?

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