Stathis

Good point @DTLow Scriptability is not possible in new EN but there are a lot of APIs. Note Station has a web interface, but Bear doesn't. I noticed Bear has an API token in settings, I will be exploring their APIs, including easy connectivity/automation with other platforms and report back

Update #1 Some notes after using Note Station and Bear Note Station Migration takes a long time. After 8h only 800 out of the 4700 notes are migrated, so it is going to take a while Supports searching in attachments, no OCR however Bear If you like markdown, Bear is an amazing app to compose Migration process wasn't that hard. I imported all notebooks one by one, when importing Bear automatically adds #Evernote tag to notes imported. Then, I just renamed the Evernote tag to Notebook/My Notebook (yes it supports nested tags. To create a tag with spaces you need to enclose it between hashtags #) Search does not search in attachments, but boy it is fast Synchronization is done through iCloud It costs 1,49€/month Both apps support nested tags, which I personally find very useful, since I was using nested tag approach already Overall I like both options, they are pretty close to EN excluding of course the search OCR superpower. Bear is aesthetically pleasing when drafting a note, not that great viewing at it since it includes the markdown characters. iPad app is also nice in contrast to Synology Note Station that does not exist. Update #2 Both Synology and Bear support note encryption. Bear however doesn’t when note includes attachments Bear is amazing if you need to write html using markdown. Really amazing

I am currently testing the search function on the alternatives. I 'll post my results when they are ready

Yes, that's definitely I did not highlight enough. Owning your data comes at a price: One would need a lot of IT work (or rely on another professional's expertise), $ initial investment, continuous maintenance and backup strategies to eliminate risks including ransomware. I will be editing the post too

Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know that I have started the migration testing among a variety of apps. You are welcome to dig in !

Hello EN community, Following my Is this a farewell post, I will be exploring some migration options switching from Evernote. Please share if you have any other suggestions/explorations. My first move was to download the legacy Evernote application and export all notebooks 1 by 1 to .enex files. The reason why I did that was most import functions I found out there would need to do so. 1. OneNote I don't like OneNote. The only reason why I tried migrating to is because I am already paying for a Microsoft business account. The Evernote to OneNote tool did not work, so migrating to OneNote does not seem like an option. More info can be found in this forum post. The verdict ❌ (-)Rent a VM because the migration tool does not work on Mac (-)Lost 3h trying to make the migration tool to work (-)Not sure what happens with Tags 2. Synology Note Station Note: you need a Synology NAS for this option If you are an old EN client, when you see Synology Note Station you ask yourself.. wtf ? It's a 100% copy of the old-good Evernote we all love and my favorite part: You own your data Unfortunately, you would need: Either hire someone or learn yourself to securely set up your NAS for external access Energy/Internet backup if you need 100% uptime Setup Hyper Backup to include Note Station as all notes are saved under the Note Station app. Thankfully, I already had those set up, so I just needed to click a button. The import from Evernote function, takes you to the allow app EN page and then it start doing the magic. Works great, all notes (migrated only a couple of notebooks, not the whole thing) were migrated successfully. Tags work exactly as you would expect, it also supports tag grouping, which is awesome because I am using this functionality a lot. The verdict ✅ (+)Free of charge (included with Synology NAS OS DSM) (+)You own your data (+)UI + functionality identical with old Evernote (+)Functionality to lock/encrypt your notes with encryption password (+)One click migration (-) Outdated (-) Web clipper only works for Google Chrome (-) You need to know how to or hire someone that can securely set up your own cloud 3. Notion Currently, I am still playing around with it and I am not sure I like it. There is too much complexity going around for what I am looking for. There are cool advanced functionalities, like custom tags / properties, creating a database-like table, easily adding a Kanban board (just like Trello). Amazing code blocks, support also choosing what kind of code it is (js, html, swift e.g.), which I found awesome ! The migration process is very easy, click Import > Evernote... and the migration starts. They also offer a $5 coupon to migrate from Evernote ! Viewing my migrated notes is AMAZING ! An Excel-like table filtering is in place which transforms your notes into a database ! Most of my notes where payment/document records and organization was done mainly by using tags, which results to a magnificent table view of notes, filtering with tags etc. The very bad: Up to now, no attachments have been migrated to notion. Unfortunately, that is a deal-breaker for me, however I will raise a ticket to support just to make sure. The verdict ❌ (+)Very advanced features converting your notes into a database (+)Custom properties replace tags in a so much better way. (+)One click migration, at the moment without attachments (+)Webclippers, apps available for every platform (-) Migration did not migrate all notes (-) Migration did not include attachments 3. DevonThink A fellow EN user from the community reached me after creating the Is this a farewell post. He created a great document describing the migration process and his experience moving to DevonThink. I will not be covering DevonThink at the moment since he has provided a far more extensive post on that. Here is the resource. Currently, I just need to say that I don't like the UI, but it seems like a solid replacement The verdict ✅ (+)Supports tags (+)Import from Evernote functionality (+)DevonThinkPro comes with a scanner capability and stamping (+)They offer a self-hosting version, which I like a lot because you own your data 4. Bear What a beautiful app ! But that's it. No notebooks functionality, no tasks, but everything else is there. For me the no notebooks thing is really not important as I used 2 Notebooks (Inbox; Archive) excluding the shared ones. I am doing all categorization with tags, which works great with Bear. This means however, that you can export all your notes in 1 take and import to Bear without splitting them to notebooks. The import functionality of bear is great, it took less than 3 minutes to import a 850mb notebook. After importing notes in bear, I started reorganizing my tags and found out that bear supports a tag indentation which is amazing because that is exactly how I organized all my note library. The verdict ✅ (+)Supports tags with indentation (+)Clean UI (+)Fast import (+)The whole note is a markdown document (-) Too clean UI (-) Only available in Apple ecosystem For me, Bear is not right. It is too minimal and offers very limited functionality. However, I feel that's a very nice option for most users and offers a native import functionality I will be sharing more in the future, especially for Notion when migration is complete. Cheers for now everyone

@PinkElephantYeap, for the past 3 hours 😞

It did not work for me. Any ideas ?

Thank you @gazumped ! Depends on the content you are storing in Evernote. I keep all my personal archive in Evernote, including medical data, scans, tax info, e.g. To highlight the importance of Evernote, I once won a court just because I had captured a handwritten document in Evernote. Definitely not paranoia. That’s why I share complaints and thoughts, out data in Evernote is not just fiscal documents nor just contracts. It’s our whole life in there and it is very disappointing EN’s management consider it as just business

Sounds interesting, any references on that ?

Update EN Support responded to my message pointing to this post, I was surprised to see that the support representative took the time and had the knowledge to argue many of points raised here. That was surprising because in my experience support agents -at least front line- have no idea what are you talking about and just ask for more information. Arnold was very professional answering without exposing the new version’s fail. He explained that most of those issues are indeed there and the reason is moving from legacy. He also acknowledged the links issue to be true and not expected behavior. If only dev team (or better dev architect for technology decision) were that good. Expanding on my complaints, I would like to just mention 2 new issues experienced lately. 1. Used iOS safari extension to import a pdf, when launched EN, one more note was pending sync also ! I waited literally 10 minutes for those 2 notes to sync, but they never made it to the server 2. Just got my 2nd dose vaccination, at the front office they requested a medical serial number. I launched EN as I do since 2011 to find my serial number. It took me 3 minutes to abort waiting and search it in my e-mails. The note where I keep all this relevant info was created in 2013 and never experienced 1 damn issue to get it. Enough is enough everyone, I am now starting to search for migration options despite the fact that my subscription period is right in the middle of the paid year. I plan to create migration options/review/feedback posts, please contact me if anyone wants to team up, split the workload.

Great to have an opposing view, thank you@PinkElephant for joining our discussion. I believe your 80% is very optimistic. Regarding the web client, I can't really have say since I never used it ! I think power users will never use web client, except when they need to access EN from another computer.

Hey @hanseric ! Thanks for sharing. The screenshot taken from the Google Play store is definitely something worths flagging. I had no idea the disappointment is that wide-spread, that's very interesting. Let me quote a sentence from the reviews you posted: "Ruined a normally working app". Exactly, I used to follow Phil anxiously to check out what new partnerships he might bring to the service, do you remember the Evernote store ? You could buy an iPad stylus, ScanSnap and a plethora of great partnership products. Now it's dead silence.

Thank you @gazumped, I just did both

Hello everyone, I decided to spare the time to write this disappointment post. Let me note right here that the disappointments you will read in this post is just a small -but most recent- fraction of my 10 years awesome user experience with EN. I have been using Evernote for the past 10 years, maybe half of which are premium. Documents, thoughts, tutorials, web archives, book suggestions, recipes, code, everything I care about is on Evernote and I am still using and love Evernote Moleskine notebooks. Early this year and thanks to COVID (spare) time, I took the time to transition all my data from the cloud to my Synology NAS, firstly because I ended up paying >500$/year (excluding business) to cloud subscriptions but most importantly because I wanted to own my personal data and not pay rent for it. After a streak of subcription cancelling, I cancelled almost all -I am still left with Evernote and iCloud-. I will be cancelling iCloud too when I 've built the Photo workflow I want to. And.. last one standing: Evernote. After giving it a thought and despite the fact that Synology and OneNote both offer a seamless way to migrate notes from Evernote, I said "no". I will be keeping my Evernote subscription, despite the fact that my subscription cost almost doubled in my paid plan years. Why ? Because I got high value from Evernote and it was acceptable to have my data on the cloud but get instantaneous search, famous Evernote OCR etc. And then... v10 came along. Being a developer myself, I don't get judgemental on product changes. When my clients are going back and forth with features they themselves requested, how easy would it be to offer features that 225M users will love or at least find acceptable ? However, performance/productivity aspects are must-haves and there is no point keeping a productivity app that kills your productivity, and that brought me to: shall I cut the last man standing ? Before doing that, I thought let's share some of those reasons, maybe someone will pay attention: New version Performance/Productivity/Reduced Functionality issues. The new app is by far the worst transition I had in my 10 years using EN. It feels (and probably is) a rubbish web hybrid that builds to macOS app too. Don't get me wrong, the UI is great/clean, note composing tools are better than ever, but guys/ladies, creating a note, moving batch/1 note to another notebook are the essentials. Who cares about functionality #3475 when you don't deliver functionalities #1 and #2. Here are 6 reasons why it sucks + 1 inconvenience: When dragging document to Evernote icon, user needs to click on a notebook, wait up to 10 seconds so the import occurs When moving a note to another notebook, it may take up to 30 seconds to be able to select the desired notebook. There is a lock icon and notebooks are greyed out for up to 30 seconds ffs. See screenshot here. When in need to do a batch action for a lot of notes, maximum number of notes is 50 ! (Seriously, is this a joke ?). That's also why I believe the new version is a web hybrid built. Launching the new app in every client (macOS, iOS, web) takes up to 1 minute, when data is not in cache Both macOS, iOS apps "hung". They are stuck and either need up to 30 seconds to revive or they need to be quit. Truth be told, newest updates have limited this issue to a minimum, but yet existing occasions. Linking notes inside the app ! That functionality existed, can't say I was really happy, but at least it worked. Now if you link one note to another, it creates a link that only launches on web ! When searching, ⌘ A selects all notes (all=50 as explained in 1.3) instead of search text Cost commitment. That's why I cancelled Dropbox, they took me from 69 to 129 in 1 year. If not mistaken, I believe Evernote went from 39 to 59, which I find somewhat acceptable considering I am literally paying to accommodate the free user tier. The Moleskine partnership is really cool I have to say and I 'd love to see an update on that Palaeolithic API. EN's API is literally last decade. I attempted to use EN API, but the process is only intended for external vendors that need to integrate a product to EN. The documentation is so outdated and non-existing, that really makes me wonder how safe my data is on EN. Documentation does not include the plain simple cURL commands. Innovation Stopped. It seems like there is no innovation happening, especially after Phil took off. I get it, there is no way competing to notes.app when Apple is really investing in that, but I expect to see some new features in my note-taking app of choice. There is limited app updating (Scannable, Skitch, Penultimate) going on. Features and business strategies I would like to see in the future Performance/Productivity/Reduced functionality -> See issues above. After having composed this post, I tend to realise that all those issues might be related to my assumption that EN now uses a web hybrid. If my assumption is correct, we need native apps. Batch actions -> See 1.3. Why on earth would a functionality of that importance be removed ? I know, hybrid app, right ? Stable Pricing -> Either keep it same and offer more or reduce it and keep it as is. At the moment we are paying more and probably even more in the future for same functionality with performance decrease ! Where does this elevation stop ? Maybe reduce functionality for free users and offer paid ones the value/innovation their cost deserves ? Tagging AI -> Tag suggestions based on user use. For example, every month I import in EN a tax document and payment. How hard would that be to identify pdf pattern and recognise that there are 1000 similar notes with the same tags. Breath-taking iPad app -> Penultimate was great back when it was introduced, but nowadays seem somewhat outdated. iPadOS has brought numerous features on note-taking and there are apps on the App Store that do use those innovations. We need the Evernote iPad app to be as good as it deserves to be. Automations -> Not getting up to date with the environment has its cost: the environment will not update too. Automating note imports in EN should be part of the EN app, just like the EN email. I am not talking about Zapier stuff, but plain-simple automations. At least create a AppleScript dictionary we can use Tasks Management -> We got reminders that -tough truth- never reached an acceptable state of productive use. I literally remember 3 years ago, I needed to manually go to notes 1-1 and clear reminders to remove the clutter. Alright, that's 2 free hours from me to you @EverNote, a price I am happy to pay considering the productivity gain I had all those years. So, are you going to keep me productive or is this a farewell ? Best regards, Askaridis Stathis

I have 272 notes I have to manually click to complete, caz an automation of mine went on steroids. It would be nice if multiple notes could be completed together.

When your tagging system includes tags starting from special characters #,@,! those tags cannot be used in the send note via e-mail functionality. It would be great if an escape character or a quotation system was in place to separate those characters from the code. e.g. Note: Food Recipe Notebook: Inbox tags: #food, @Sophie, !starred Email subject example: Food Recipe @Inbox #(#food) #(@sophine) #(!starred)