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Krunoslav

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  1. Yes. And I wonder how they would feel if they got sued for pushing knowingly faulty software with potential data loss to payed users, even after the very same users used as beta testers reported the bugs multiple times. Only in Evernote, folks. Only in Evernote. A 100 year company.
  2. Fair enough. P.S. Aimed at who ever is reading this from Evernote.... I don't know if what I said is the reason or not, but I do now that if price is what we pay and value is what we get, I'm still waiting on the value for price increase which happened around that time. I would reasonable to expect that whatever the reason for problems was, the extra price we pay for subscriptions should cover it.
  3. Yes. Features wise, I have no idea why someone thought that emoji is more important to users than format painter, or some kind of font style feature. Something requested for ages, while emoji if requested I didn't remember reading about it.
  4. Cost and license fees should be taken care of by boost in subscription prices for which we got only more bugs. Perhaps you remember when that happen. We were promised features, but we didn't get any noteworthy features, and I'm not counting the now resident joke - emoji. Coincidental or not, this also happened to be time when the new CEO showed up who was former Google guy. This also included the ability to log in evernote with both evernote account and google account. Which I found supicious considering that Google is not know for privacy and Evernote was considered a place to store sensitive private information away from likes of Google and Facebook etc. Anyway, at the same time or about that time, if I remember correctly, maybe someone can correct me. but seem to be that we also started using buggy chrome editor. I smell google again. So if I had to guess, and I have no proof of this, just educated guess, its Google guy making way for Google. I said back than, Evernote will end up being bought by google eventually and the way things are been going downhill, I would not be surprise if that happens in the near future. Because I haven no idea how Evernote is making money or intents to keep its customers by being this sloppy with their product. Somebody will buy them. And google seems like prime candidate, they already have the insider. All that aside, Evernote has been making some really strange choices about main editor, UI design, and features for a while now. One thing that seems to be consistent with Evernote even before new CEO was lack of interaction with its users and listening to feedback. At least in the past, bugs were minimal, but since Evernote 6.5. 4 it was a disaster. I don't think I need to go down the timeline of all the bugs and bizarre choices on this forum. We are all way to familiar with it.
  5. So true. Even back than, I was the first one to post and I posted my skepticism about it. The developer assured me this time it will be differentiate, and it seem that he was honest about his intentions, but I was told later that he was probably fired, when the new management come on board. And that was all she wrote... as they say. Sad state of affairs in Evernote. Also they keep on sending us emails trying to sell us the wonderful evernote tips and tricks and new features. A marketing team totally out of touch with the development team, which only is good at delivering more bugs and features no one asked for. While the CEO is doing god knows what. It would be embarrassing if it was not corporate America, which knows no embarrassment.
  6. This, I feel the same way. P.S. This happen since the new Evernote CEO came over from google. Push for Google products at the expanse of its users and features. Not cool. guys.
  7. Hi, Nick If you are the one responsible for "advocating for more frequent releases, so that we can get these behind-the-scenes changes into the hands of our users on a regular basis." Did you ever consider that being a payed user of your product does not mean we are happy to pay for the privilege to be beta testers as well? I certainly didn't agree on that. And that is exactly what has been going on. If you want frequent releases, keep them in BETA stage, and let volunteers test it. Once it hits General Release its not a joke. I'm not paying you to test your product, I didn't agree on that. If you want volunteers, that is fine, people on these forums seems to be wiling to test and reports bugs. But not people who use it for IMPORTANT private and professional work. We are paying for reliability, security and stable releases, not for privilege of being beta testers. Its an insult to users. Stop releasing untested products to market, keep them in beta for reasonable time and make sure you fix all the reported and discovered bugs before it goes into what most companies use RC (Release Candidate). Version of product that is supposed to be bug free and its there to be tested, as a final version, just before its released to general public. That is what we the users want, and that is your responsibility. Please don't advocate anything that users have to pay for with lose of time and precious data. Its enough we are paying with money. Thank you.
  8. Indeed. At least you used sarcasm font. Kudos. I am not sure if that will change anything, but you do make a good point. I don't remember many people asking for emojis, compared to fixing bugs, stability improvements, security improvements, more devices we can use, and more notes and notebooks we can create. Something that has not been improved for a very long time and actually reduced for some users. And off course useful features like text editing features that almost all professional competitors have. Even features that were step in the right direction, like reminders got left behind with not much investment in improving those, also asked by people. Either way, there comes a point where stability and reliability and security is paramount. Something that makes the service and app actually safe to use and we are paying for. To evernote; you can have all the emoji you want, just fix the existing bugs first and please don't introduce two new bugs for every one you fix. Please. Raise your standards, and be professional about it.
  9. Why is this a general release? The last half a dozen betas are alphas and general releases were barely betas. This one cannot have all the bugs fixed that have been reported. There is no way. It has been released way too soon, with not enough testing. And many bugs are threat to the users data? Why is this a general release? This is barely 6.11 beta 2, but more likely alpha 2, not a general release. Why has it been released? Why are standards of quality so low? This needs to be tested extensively for at least few months, and all the reported bugs fixed, with no new ones introduced. There is no way you have done that. I would like to speak to a product manager, or someone behind these release choices? Someone who has the authority and is responsible for releasing buggy, unfinished products that make it very likely to lose personal and professional data. Along with many other unwanted product behaviors. (And also someone who will actually answer the phone or forum post, and not some dead end forum thread no one answers.) And where is the known issues list? Because I'm pretty sure you know the issues reported that have not been corrected. I'm almost ready to bet that several upcoming posts here in this thread will show that as they always do. Ever since 6.5.4 release, when all this started. New editor, and rapid release of more bugs. Including changes to layout no one asked for, while bugs remain. Payed user here. I am not upgrading, until you guys actually release a stable, reliable product. Something that I'm paying for but not getting. The price has gone up more than six months ago, and we lost atlas and few other features, got bunch of bugs that seem to multiply with each release. Making it not only annoying but actually unstable to use. Last time I tried, after 6.5.4 version which I'm currently using, I lose precious data. Ever since than I'm reading forums and Its a disaster. All the regular forum users here know it. Once again, why is this a general release and not alpha or beta release, and why is it not being tested more? In order to correct all the bugs and make sure its safe to use.
  10. I can't add to the list myself because I have tried few betas, lost work which is unacceptable, and in this place there is no one to complain to off course. No one cares or listens. So I went back to Evernote 6.5.4 before they changed the editor and ***** everything up. Now I'm reading horror story after horror story on these forums waiting for some kind of good news that its safe to use the application I'm paying for. So far all I'm seeing is more bugs and more bugs. Ladies and gentlemen we are paying more than we used to for the privilege to be not beta testers, but alpha testers. While evernote keeps on insisting to take away key features, many depend on, like drag and drop. A simple drag and drop. In an app that is supposed to be all about productivity. Somebody lost their mind. Feels like twilight zone. In 2018, we can't drag and drop in a productivity app that already had that function working just fine. And we are paying more money for the privilege. That's crazy.
  11. Simple. Make it bug free and reliably stable. As for the features, they are second priority, but there are endless request for dozen or so features which users have been asking for years now and non have been implemented or responded to by Evernote in their usual fashion. Trying to make the same list and request again feels like Sisyphus impossibly thankless and incredibly frustrating task.
  12. Amen to that. Super frustrating. I'm still at version 6.5.4 for the same reason. A payed customer.
  13. Definitely agree. My hunch is that they hired bunch of untrained and unskilled developers to save cost and than try to figure things out as they go. And so first few betas after 6.5.4 were buggy but they managed to keep track of the bugs. As more people reported bugs they try to keep up with it, but with no clear understanding of what they are doing or good foundation so it became like a quick sand. Each new beta and or general release since 6.5.4 brings bugs on top of bugs. This conceited with brilliant decision to change editor of Evernote, which needed change, I agree, but not with something even more restrictive and buggy. All I can think off, is that they must be using new Evernote to keep track of all the report from the forums. Its hard to imagine how else they could be so incompetent and careless with the number of bugs and broken features. And what about product manager? They must have one. Why so irresponsible to let what is essentially pre-alpha as beta and super early beta as general release. Which ironically they managed to release with beta icon still in circulation until someone reported it. I mean you can't make this stuff up. This is not a video game, this product is what people use for work and keep track of their lives, its not some video game that we can easily change. Please, if actual product manager, who has the authority to do something about this, is reading this, please do something about this product of yours before your development team drives people away to another platform. This is getting really embarrassing. Just read your own forums. How can you let this go on? Please, we don't want to lose Evernote and we want to help, but you guys have to meet us at least half way.
  14. Yes Indeed. I agree. And we don't seem to be going forward either. Before version 6.5.4 every beta I tested was safe. It had only one bug or none and it was safe to test. Now its getting worse with each beta, from not safe to not even usable. Someone needs to take responsibility.
  15. Normally I would agree with you. I mean as a general principle, sticking to the topic. However , many of these new topics go unresponded, Certainly not from Evernote even when people are posting in them. Pretty soon the forums is filling up with this dead ends. I wish it was not so. Since there is no response from the Evernote team or anyone in charge of disastrous updates we are getting from Evernote lately, and not all are betas, at least not officially... maybe they can read between the lines. The reason this Nimbus business came up, is because people want more than anything for Evernote to work, at least as it used to if not better, and are looking for alternatives. People are not satisfied and there needs to be some valid and meaningful response from Evernote. If they care at all. I mean there should be a legitimate Evernote representative with authority apologizing and compensating with some useful information for the bugs they introduced. All I hear instead is crickets and resident Evernote apologists. I said my piece. I won't engage in anymore Nimbus topics on this threat. If new one is opened, we can continue there. I agree.
  16. I have heard about Nimbus Screenshot Shot tool and used it in web browser in the past, but I was not really aware of the Nimbus Note. Sounds interesting, promising even. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I appreciate it. I agree with what you said but I have my doubts about of Evernote being around for a long time. They certainly don't seem to be acting like it. And far mightier and better managed companies have failed than Evernote. So far they seem to be getting by on old fame and lack of strong competition, but I don't see any innovation, or even maintenance, I see raise in price for no return on value for the users, I see restrictions that are there because of old foundation on software that is no longer adequate solution for both users and competitive company. I have serious doubts if Evernote services next few years. If something like Nimbus note or some other software decided to up their game, and offer good migration options of notes from Evernote, I don't see how Evernote can survive for long with their atrocious development team and lack of compelling innovation. There is also a really bad sign when evenote marketing team sends me emails and tells fairy tales of productivity and evernote development team can't make a an update without breaking half the program. I don't know who is in charge of the teams but that is really confusing and conflicting message they are sending to their user base. Anyway, thank you for the Nimbus Note heads up. I will be sure to check it out in the near future and see if its a viable alternative. I truly hope it is. Happy New Year.
  17. Well said. I don't understand the Evernote insistence on doing that when on top of all that they have willing users feedback in forums such as this. All they need to do is give people what they want and the company prospers. Why would they insist on giving users what they never asked for and break what worked while at the same time not fixing what everyone asks for. Makes zero sense.
  18. Couldn't agree more. I have been pointing this out for a while, no reply off course from the actual team or people responsible. Its like howling to the moon. Frustrating.
  19. Yes, indeed. There were promises but not much has happened, or what did, it was really badly implemented and full of bugs. Such as changes to the main editor. I am on the lookout for alternatives, but sadly Evernote still offers some of the best web capture tool (webclipper) which is important in the researcher. Other than that, the list of reasons to stay are only linked to the amount of time and efforts I invested in notes.
  20. Yes, but that is not a replacement for the edit ability of note taking app such as Evernote. Its a backup feature at best. I am aware of that, but I need to continue to work on the files/notes, which means that it has to be hosted in a note taking app such as Evernote, not as static HTML file. Its a good way to backup notes maybe, but its not a way to replace functionality of Evernote with something better. OneNote would be a possibility and I'm using that as well, but their Evernote2OneNote feature is not that good, need lot of polish. Anything more complex does not translate well.
  21. Yes, I agree, its not a replacement for word processing on a large scale, but things like highlighting and formatting tools, H1, H2, styles, etc. Basic stuff that it should have. On top of that, as you can see in these forums people have weird issues with font size not matching when using bullet points, as well as copy paste issues. These are basics. There should be no excuses for that. Basic table editing as well, which they try to add with new releases, but its still buggy as hell. You said "It's very easy to export your data from Evernote." I don't see how that is possible and still maintain the structure, with images and text intact. Unless you know something I don't. If so do tell, because I have not found anything I can use yet. Mind you, I'm not using only text. Its a combination of text, images, fonts, highlighted elements etc.
  22. Yes. However when you put some of the numbers in context its really disgraceful.... you have to admit. The Evernote web service launched into open beta on June 24, 2008, 200 million users worldwide. That is over a decade later, decade later.... and we still can't get a working word editor in a note taking application. Application that works with words. That is its core functionality. That's crazy. Its riddled with bugs, even things that used to work, stop working or have weird bugs. Reported bugs are not all fixed and we are greeted with new features that either broke what used to work or are things no one asked for, like that weird new note button placement. As evident by reading the forums or testing yourself. We are still missing word editor features that virtually every other word application in existence had for probably as long as Evernote has been around. And that is just a tip of the iceberg. You have been around long enough in these forums to remember all the leadership bizarre decision, tight lip development team and security concerns. If I didn't naively invested 17, 000 plus notes into this app, I would be crazy to stay. Things are not getting any better. Its been probably six months now since v6.5.4 and I still don't dare to upgrade. I mean who is crazy here!?
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