lisec

This is also happening on Android. I can't believe this issue is from Nov!  I thought the whole point of moving into this new 1 code base for all was to make it simpler to fix bugs!  Please fix asap. Evernote on the phone is pretty much useless now because all I do is save clippings to read later.

58 minutes ago, Saskia said:

Argh, the update has broken a feature I didn't even realise I used so often!

In the old version, when I want to apply the same tags to a note as an existing note, I can select both notes & bring up the "assign tags" dialog, with "hide unassigned tags" checked. This gives me a handy list of all the current shared tags (which are checked) and those that aren't shared (with a black dot in the box). I can then either click "select all" to apply all of the tags to each note, or I can manually select the tags I want if I don't need to apply them all.

Oh that is not good. Like you, I use that feature all the time - multiple times/day.

13 minutes ago, RavBoy said:

cool... great find and thanks for sharing. 

EDIT:* Correction... when I just tested exporting multiple files to HTML... the full titles were retained no issues at all!  However instead of getting multiple HTML files they were all merged into one... so if wanting to search in title from MS Explorer, prob better to export whole notebook

Yeah, I don't consider that an option really. I mean if we only relied on search, we might was well just have one large Evernote note with everything in it, or one large file in our windows Documents folder with everything in it. That's not the way people do things (rightly or wrongly). My guess is that option is there as a last resort type of thing, where you have confidence in being able to access your data the way it is, but if *everything* goes sideways, then at least you know you've got one big file with everything in it just in case.

I Found the solution to the truncated thing, by the way. I'll edit this to provide more details in a few minutes, but for now, you get the full non-truncated title ONLY if you export one file at a time, and select "Export as Single html web page". 

Yup. 1 file at a time. It's going to be a very long next 7 days.

Edit: To be fair, if you select multiple files and "Export as multiple web pages (html)" you will get an index file called "Evernote_Index.html" and when you open that, it includes the full titles with a link to the title's url within that folder. So... it's a crappy work around if you ask me because

1. it's just an extra step to see your full file names and
2. if you export new files into the same folder you end up with an another Evernote Index and
3. if you happen to export duplicates (easy to do if you forget that you already exported some notes) then you end up with duplicates and triplicates all over the place because Evernote doesn't overwrite, it just adds a [2] at the end of the html file and its corresponding folder.

4 minutes ago, RavBoy said:

I just did a test-export of a Note, exporting as HTML, and selecting ALL available options.  Interestingly, the resulting HTML file Meta-data only showed: Created / Updated / Source!  So the other options did not appear like it did in your screen-shot...hmmmm

maybe the fields are not filled?

14 minutes ago, DTLow said:

That's interesting; we don't have the options in Mac export - it was DIY for me   
I don't see Notebook or Note-Id in the list 

I don't think we have "note-id" in Windows, or if we do, it is under the hood and we can't see it. And yeah, there is no Notebook option. I think people usually select a notebook and export the entire thing into a folder with the Notebook name.

1 hour ago, DTLow said:

I edited my post with an example

Hmm. Could that be an Apple thing? 

On windows when you export a note to html you get to choose from a bunch of meta data and it goes into the note.So for example, this appears below the note title when I open the html file:

Evernote eXport options:

1 hour ago, RavBoy said:

I'm running Win10 v2004 and have EN-Windows v6.25.1.9091.

I just ran a quick export-test of a new note consisting of 171 characters in the title.  Both exporting as .enex file and .html successfully retained the full title character length when saved to my PC

RavBoy, Are you running the latest Windows (v1909)? Maybe that's what is causing the truncating thing as well as the search business.

1 hour ago, RavBoy said:

I'm running Win10 v2004 and have EN-Windows v6.25.1.9091.I just ran a quick export-test of a new note consisting of 171 characters in the title.  Both exporting as .enex file and .html successfully retained the full title character length when saved to my PC

 

Oh shoot!  I mean great, and thanks for posting that, but man, why doesn't it work on my machine!!!!  I get this, so I couldn't even search for "manual" using windows title search (which I prefer cause it's faster) because it truncates!

2 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I have a concern with note metadata (including title) missing from the backup export    
My solution is to append the metadata to the note contents

I'm not sure I understand, especially the bit about appending metadata.

Just now, gazumped said:

Exporting to ENEX is good for backing up data - and the format seems to be importable for a number of apps including Evernote.  AFAIK the format is not human- (or search-) friendly though.  Not good for viewing content outside of a hosting app.

yeah, I backup to enex all the time and am up to date. I wanted to export to html (as well) to see if I could go back to living with everything on my notebook and just using evernote for web-clipping stuff.

8 minutes ago, gazumped said:

How are you exporting these files?  To HTML / ENEX?

html.  Apparently v1909 of Windows could have issues with Windows Search. They changed something.  

I think it's time for me to go into my cinema and watch all 25 movies of my Zatoichi box set. Maybe things will work better when I come back in about 3 weeks 😉

I tell ya, there's no winning.

I'm being good, exporting all my files for backup purposes (and also just in case I need to dump evernote). Then I discover the titles are all truncated and I'm missing half the relevant info.  Ok, well, Windows Search function is pretty good nowadays, so I can just search for the contents of the html files when I need to find something.  HA!  Windows Search doesn't find anything in html files!  Geez. So now I have to research that.  What a frustrating day.

I lost a pdf receipt today that was in an Evernote note from 2018.  I noticed that it had encryption so I entered the password, the pdf displayed as expected within the evernote note, I opened it with Acrobat, removed the encryption, Saved, and all was good... until I synced the note. Poof - pdf is gone.  It is *not* cool to mess around with our documents and attachments, and this missing attachment business has been going on for a few months now (with pasted jpgs disappearing all the time). 

Luckily I'm a paid subscriber and have access to note history and was able to recover.  I repeated the process and all worked out fine. BUT the only reason I caught the missing pdf was that I double-checked on it right after modifying it. Had I just gone about my business I never would have realized the attachment disappeared.

It might be time for everyone to backup their notes & attachments onto a hard drive or some more reliable cloud-based solution (which I was in the process of doing). And honestly, if we have to do that, then evernote becomes nothing more than a very expensive web-clipping service.

I could swear I used to export and get the full titles, but now my titles (and corresponding folders) are all being truncated at 140 characters (incl extension). Is that new? More important, is there a workaround?

The issue started with me about 10 minutes ago. Google Chrome.  I actually got an error.

5 hours ago, CobaltJacket said:

This article sums up the problem nicely: Electron is Flash for the desktop. Why does a note-taking program need code for Xbox 360 controllers? That is the definition of bloat.

Thanks for that article. It's great!  Even better is this other page the article links to:   https://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm. I laughed so hard. All developers should read this.

8 minutes ago, Don Dz said:

I forget exactly where I read it, but version 6.25 will no longer be updated (hence the "legacy label"), they are focusing on the new version 10.

I am under the impression some old timers in the forums have been through this before, totally revamped program and editor, etc.

If I'm not mistaken, legacy is 6.25.2 and the previous version is 6.25.1, so in effect they are both 6.25.  I thought I read today that there was an update to the legacy version although I don't recall what was changed.

1 hour ago, avevers said:

Native sync (optional) coming too, @lisec
- https://obsidian.md/pricing

That's good.  I'm taking a look at obsidian now. Very interesting. Not the simplest thing in the world, though, I mean in terms of how to deal with filetypes they don't support.

1 minute ago, CalS said:

Until there is a clear definition of what is in the "legacy" 6.25.2 version I am sticking with the last version I have, 6.25.1 .  6.25.1 is working plus the chaos in the V 10 cluster thingamabob makes sitting on the sidelines seem the right thing to do at this point.

That's what I'm doing as well. As long as it still syncs, it's good for me.

11 minutes ago, avevers said:

 

Obsidian only works with markdown files; from my (limited) understanding, it's a front end to those files but with sophisticated linking and graphing technology overlaid. This is why I am interested in MD - you can take those files anywhere without necessary exporting (as you'd have to do with Evernote) - you just need an editor and a viewer to present it. Heck - a normal text editor to edit it and a browser to present it would suffice. But these MD clients offer more than just editing or rendering. Things are missing from Obsidian though - OCR, native mobile apps etc.. Depends on what you're looking for or what matters. For me, I use most if not all of Evernote's features, so right now Obsidian doesn't cut it in that respect. Just like Notion doesn't. But they're fascinating products nonetheless. 

 

This sounds promising... there might be an independent way to OCR, and as for mobile, I'd probably be happy just to use a sync service (google drive, dropbox) to have access from anywhere...

3 minutes ago, avevers said:

@lisec - you might want to check out Obsidian. I've read very good things about it, but I've not explored it much. Simple Notes and Nimbus are both on my radar also. I already use Notion but, for me, it's just not there yet.

I'll take a look, but honestly I think that Evernote was the last proprietary thing for me (aside from email). If I get out, I'll stay out. I'll revert to old school with txt and jpg and a good file explorer/search engine, or maybe some database that keeps my files where they are but just displays them in a pretty way. 

It answers my misunderstanding of what he was saying 😉

I thought that installing legacy auto installed *both* legacy and win 10, thereby increasing the space taken on the drive. 

1 minute ago, ej8899 said:

Legacy appears to be completely stand alone and not attached to v10. 

excellent. Thanks!

3 minutes ago, ej8899 said:

 if you're running Legacy and don't want to play with v10 - uninstall and you should only have the Legacy database remaining.

Ok. But if I install legacy it only installs legacy, right? It doesn't  auto install both legacy and v10 (after which I would have to uninstall v10)?