Sugeeth Krish

I could do longer videos, but who has the patience ?

Thanks for your feedback, my voice is pretty poor in narration, hence i preferred this... 

10 hours ago, MvdH said:

Also note that backlinks get broken when you merge notes. Something I do a lot. With an extra lookup index in the database, this doesn't have to be the case technically, but this is how Evernote build it.

Id guess that's logical since the structure of Evernote at its core is the note... 

So if u merge the notes, it's now a single note. The idea of multiple Backlinks now won't exist... 

I am from India, and am an Evernote expert. The pricing is in Indian Rupees, i dont see whats the problem here, although, i am not sure if the 40 percent discount will go through, as the rupee is already subsidised [ Professional @ 5200 rupees a year is around 62 dollars] , and thats meant for dollar pricing. 

You should be able to go with this amount 3999 a year personal, or 5200 for professional. Good luck if the 40 percent works with INR as well. 

https://evernote.com/compare-plans 

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Using Evernote's classical [internal note links] and the new [backlink], [preview note mode] and [ updated renaming of backlinked notes] feature in 10.x, build your own Study/Research dashboard

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Evernote's A.I. Powered Search works amazingly for "English" based content, found in your Evernote account. But, can you make use of the feature, for regional languages like "Tamil" or "Malayalam" as well?

You can atleast in some cases, by using some work-arounds [ for now] 😍 

Evernote's latest "A.I.Powered Search feature is amazing, to help "find specific notes", or to generate quick, short and concise answers, to specific questions", from information, within your own Evernote account? This is possible because Evernote can index and find content inside text, images and pdf's, within a user's account. But, can the same principles be used externally, for [video] content in YouTube?

12 hours ago, Federico Simionato said:

The only remaining issue seems to be on the authentication side.

If you're not logged in, I suggest you don't sign out until we fix it. But if you're signed out you are not locked out, it should be enough to try logging in again once or twice.

Federico, i hope your health is better now. 

7 hours ago, tuulikki said:

@PinkElephant, thank you for the pointer. I note that the reason I'm using Legacy to take screenshots is because of this forum, it was the solution I found when I last explored the problem. Evernote is a tool for me, not a lifestyle. 

Despite the help, your rudeness to me and others seems unnecessary, and your unpleasantness does not encourage me to spend any additional time here.

I understand your frustration, but so is this frustrating for those obsessed with 'legacy', a service that may have had an amazing past, but with no future, 

And by continuing to obsess with 'legacy', you guys are seriously blocking the faster progress of 10.x, which is clearly the future, ahead 

Long time users of legacy well know that the company went into a financial mess and was purchased...

Legacy was started at a different time period. Today in 2023, it makes no sense to no longer support multiple code bases , keep on adding tech debt to a point of no return , and long obsolete libraries. 

The best case scenario for legacy would have been that it was only kept supported to keep working, with no functional improvements at all ...

If that's the case , the app is as good , as dead anyways ...

10.x isnt perfect . At many points like the 'notifications' panel', 'seamless sharing ' with WC integration etc , it's definitely better. But 10.x has equally improved and has become way way snappier, and it continues to keep adding features, and is positioned to take on the likes of the newer gen apps , going ahead. 

Legacy would not stand a chance..come back , download 10.x and give it a try for a week, maybe you'll change your mind . 

On 7/11/2023 at 8:06 PM, AlbertR said:

OK, so if you promise to lead V10 to make it as handy as Legacy, I'll work with it. This includes ...

• speed of any UI/display action
• shrink down display space needs
• allow sorting by reminder (done) time and tags in (any) note lists
• work with two accounts in parallel
• allow images and attachments on one line

Alternatively, The editor in "Legacy" was nothing short of a joke [ I am talking the unified "Evernote experience, and not just one platform, as its a cloud platform]. Tables was a mess in Android. There was literally no scope for further improvement of any sort, leave alone envisioning stuff like RTE and Tasks or AI . 

Both "Legacy" and "10.x" have their strengths and weaknesses. Its not fair to "belittle" or "pit one against the other", but in current circumstances, clearly, EN has only choce to go 10.x 

18 hours ago, AlbertR said:

I'll use Legacy as long as V10 fails to replace Legacy's functionality 😉

To be honest: I do not insist on a promise that all this will come immediately. I want Federico to help us Legacy users to get our functionality back in V10 - and not only fancy features for new users (if Legacy will be really hard-dropped to save developer power).

How practical is this? How many features which were there in legacy, were dropped in legacy itself? Atlas comes to mind. How many features of Evernote 7 for ios, were dropped for Evernote 8 for Ios? Please look up. We are not talkng now, but maybe 7 to 8 years ago. Simple, because OS's dev tools were growing at their own speeds and many libraries which EN was using from other sources were getting obsolete. EN had to work hard just to keep them running, inspire of adding tech debt all the time. 

Was there practically any meaningful feature update since 2016? None. A few 'color codes' and 'templates' maybe. That's all. Why? Because of multiple code bases. 

As per the old dB, Mac had 'tabs', 'descriptive search' etc which Windows doesn't have, and mobile doesn't have 'table editing' or 'Tag management support', which 'desktop' has. And the web client of legacy was one big mess. 

The mess goes on. So how does EN go about it? Make the windows user happy? Or the mac user? Or the android user? Or the tablet user? 

It's impossible to keep every legacy user happy, and let's face it, legacy won't last long, and even those that adapt to V10.x, have to make some compromises to their work flow. 

2 hours ago, gustavgi said:

And since I can edit web clipped notes clipped using v10 inside Legacy, without destroying/removing/simplyfing formatting, why can't I have the option to do the same in v10?

It was a conscious design effort, as it retains the formatting by the original website. So, that the clipper wouldnt break the formatting. I think it makes some sense as all websites are not built by the same underlying technology. A section of users , would prefer the retaining "of the original formatting". 

If you need to edit, its just a "single tap" away. 

On 5/16/2023 at 8:13 PM, LeoKou said:

"simplify and make it editable" is a complete mess. I wish I can add notes and annotate web content and clips like I used to

I believe this was a conscious decision, to retain the formatting of the original webpage clip. 

Off course if you need to add annotations and highlights, you can always break the "formatting" and get a effect similar to Legacy. 

2 hours ago, Magnus Lidbom said:

@agsteele Did you read my comment!? If so, please tell me, how does constant long freezes during which I can get nothing done and I am forced to just sit there steaming in my own frustration become "OK again"? I cannot even do work in another application because it is when I switch back to Evernote that it freezes. If i switch away again I'm just resetting the wait time and I'm condemned to wait again from the start as soon as I switch back to evernote. This is not something for me to get used to, it is a severe bug that must be fixed but for some unfathomable reason evernote is simply ignoring. I just don't understand why anyone would suggest I just get used to something like that. Please!

These are not minor feature differences I'm talking about. I'm talking about a bug that makes the software damn near unusable and a horrifyingly bad UI design brainfart that simply should never have been implemented. For crying out loud, implying that I should just get used to it or leave is the exact opposite of helpful! Why in the world would you even post something like that?

 

V10 works, almost quite well for most users. The most common fix is uninstall your client, install the latest code, and re-allow your machine to sync. Its likely the problem will fix. If your a paid user and still have a specific use case problem, send your logs to customer support. They'll try and fix it for you, and make the product even better. 

If your a free user, tough luck. 

All this will work, only if you have the primary intent to accept the reality that you want to use Evernote for the long term, and give V10 a try. 

If your going to start with a prejudice (anyone who does so), and keep voting in favour of Legacy [ we all love Legacy], you will never get to over come the work around with V10. 

The old days of developing indvidual code bases - platform specific and then making them communicate with each other, is not only a night mare and is no longer financially feasible. This is the way forward, and is the reality. 

2 hours ago, Boot17 said:

but I'm really impressed with how long Evernote has been able to keep legacy desktop running in connection with all the changes going on with v10. Being able to add RTE for the new clients while making it so that Legacy can still work with that is pretty great.

Legacy is only a matter of time. Either, people make the choice to move to Version 10, or find more suitable alternatives. Thats the harsh reality, going forward. 

1 hour ago, johnm243 said:

I have tried several but none were able to import my 2 GB of notes

You have 2GB. I have 55 GB. Good luck to long term power users. 

For all its flaws that Evernote has and needs to be acknowledged, how perfect are the alternatives? 

On 5/8/2023 at 10:37 PM, Scott T. said:

I think what you would see in this case is that the first device would convert the note to the new format. Subsequent devices opening that note would need to re-fetch the newly converted note vs. opening the local copy which would still be in the old format. Again, should be a one-time slowdown. 

Is there some process which can auto update large databases in the background? 12-13 year accounts like us have 23,000+ Notes, data running over 55GB in datasize. 

So, it means that it may take years, before some random old note will get to be opened. So, not only do you need to keep this converter open, but it also is not very efficient. 

A background scan of a windows machine when running idle, can handle the note-conversion process, speeding up future note openings. 

30 minutes ago, Scott T. said:

Legacy clients were taken into account when developing the new note format. Though legacy clients will not be able to do real-time editing, the service does keep an ENML version of the note up-to-date for backward compatibility. Furthermore, we still manage "note locking" such that legacy clients will be able to edit the note and you won't get note conflicts due to simultaneous editing by an RTE-capable client. There should be a message that shows up in a legacy client regarding an RTE client editing the note. 

Can you tell us why is there a "sync" button in the V10 mobile clients [hidden inside] Vs there not being one in the Windows client? If we are going to go for "real time editing", having a "sync" in mobile makes no sense? 

The only reason i can think of in mobile, is battery life. If thats the case then, will the "always on" sync feature on mobile, be a "battery-hog"

can you tell us this difference please? 

11 hours ago, Federico Simionato said:

I believe Directory > Space > Stack > Notebook > Note is kind of skeuomorphic but does not really scale well in digital realms.

Notion only has the note entity (and the block), which is not necessarily the best way to organize notes IMO, but a proof that you just really need one entity.

But we need to think this through very well, and for now we're 90% on sync, reliability and performance. What's your opinion?

The idea of "Notebooks" is very much similar to "Folders" in Windows. And the "Note" kind of represents a particular file. It does take a while, to understand and work-around the idea of the limited "Stacks-> Notebook -> Note structure". This is where the powerful idea of "tags and infinite nestd tags comes in" for more and better organization and "info-retrieval" in Evernote. 

@Federico Simionato my humble request, irrespective of any changes that may be brought into "Note" level organization. i request you, not to deprecate the "functional role" of "Tags". Tags also always needs to have "king level" support in Evernote. 

"Sync" and performance has improved immensely on Mobile. Desktop could still do a bit better. 

2 hours ago, johnm243 said:

I find it interesting that there are more fonts on this forum than are available in v. 10???

The "forum" is primarily designed to be only a "web only" experience, or will render as a html website. 

The "Evernote Service" however is cross-platform and has to support multiple platforms, so, its not feasible to support too many fonts, cross-platform.

Having said that, as the Editor is a unique engine in itself, i believe that Evernote will, and i hope, add support for more fonts in future. 

3 minutes ago, HeBoIz said:

No - no limit at all im my legacy version (still green icon and original pre-v10 Evermote, so no reinstalled "legacy"...)

assigning temporary tags to far more than 50 notes, filtering, moving to a temporary notebook, exporting notebook, deleting temporary tags, moving notes back to original notebook ist done in seconds - at least in legacy...

I think its a rather 'valid use case' to bring back, in Version 10.x 

7 minutes ago, AlbertR said:

Legacy is unlimited on this. EN10 limits it to 50 notes with its first edition. Some guys found a parameter "multiSelectionLimit" in configuration files to enlarge this limit to app. 1.000 - but not more. 

@Federico Simionato Check The perspectives for legacy - https://www.evernote.com/shard/s333/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=85f05ab8-3a6e-4d89-8620-2a801cc3cff9&noteKey=da2afbc47afb5261003943a8631af329&sn=https://www.evernote.com/shard/s333/sh/85f05ab8-3a6e-4d89-8620-2a801cc3cff9/da2afbc47afb5261003943a8631af329&title=EN10%2B-%2Bmissing%2Bfeatures%2B%28from%2Bbeloved%2BLegacy%29 

Interestingly, i had a bird's eye view of your view points. I would say that a lot of them, are based on perspective. I am happy you created such a detailed list, expressing your views in support of Legacy, while i have been doing some documentation on the other side, arguing that Ver10.x was the way to go [ and i am actually happy with the implemenattion of the new check lists  ] 

Thanks @AlbertR

Just now, AlbertR said:

Moreover: To get them back, they have to re-install Legacy (after having read this thread or contacted support because EN staff declined to simply download it) because EN10 installation removes Legacy (program [*]) from the computer 👎

[*] After having re-installed Legacy, content of local notebooks reappears immediately 👍

The idea of 'Legacy' Vs 'Windows 10' stems from the idea of 'local notebooks'. 

Legacy was started in 2000+. The idea of 'cloud', 'mobile' or 'collaboration', or 'always online' just didnt exist. It was started just as a client like standalone MS Office. Thats where you get the idea of having 'local notebooks' [ which was the main feature when it started], but later 'local notebooks' became a side feature, as 'Evernote embraced the cloud. 

But in 2019-20, when 'cloud', 'mobile', 'collab', 'always online', 'powerful mobile clients', 'powerful virtual devices' exist, i dont think the idea of 'local notebooks' even makes sense, when your going to have almost all data online. And if you still need 'offline notebooks', just create one in your local machine and use MS word. Thats the best option you have. 

7 minutes ago, AlbertR said:

But is it really a "brand new feature" to "Bulk action @ 100 notes"? 🤔 

I recall 'Windows Legacy' of having a select limit of upto 50 notes. Maybe, i am wrong.