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  1. No . . . . They Are Not Listening. Evernote had HUGE amounts of Goodwill from it's users. When I got really serious about using Evernote, I was blown away with the amount of Goodwill / Good Faith / Trust / that the hard core user community had about this app. It was people like Gazumped, BurgersNFries, JMichael, and Csihilling and many others that convinced me, through learning from them and their faith in the app, that going premium was a good idea for me -- YOUR CORE USERS ARE WHAT SOLD ME. Not you. Not your slick promo videos, Not all your marketing efforts. You Are Not Listening. You are now bleeding goodwill in buckets. The people that really use your service are telling you they can't use the beta to do any kind of meaningful work with their existing data and You Are Not Listening.
  2. Evernote is writing the chapter of WHAT YOU DON'T DO to your core user base. 1 ) You throw at us a "Web Beta" that is clearly not even close to complete. It's stripped of all functionality 2) You give the user community NO INFORMATION on where you are going with this other than spouting the new company policy of "workspace" 3) You get hammered with feedback on how HORRIBLE and UTTERLY USELESS this new UI is for working with existing notes and data 4) you do NOTHING but say "This is great feedback", "We want to hear your feedback", "Keep the feedback coming" and things like "3 more functions are going to be added in the new Beta," and maybe "6 more functions on the drawing table" 5) Crickets Chirping . . .. . . . . NOTHING . . .. . . No word . . . . No response . . . . No attempt at addressing the most basic core problem many people have with the Beta AND their people's growing concern over the direction of the desk top platforms as well . .. . . Crickets Chirping . . .. . . .
  3. So . . . back to how the new Web UI Beta sucks pond water. It's as if Adobe Photoshop started stripping away functions so they cold look more like Microsoft Paint -- that is insanity, Phil Libin. NO ONE likes the "Suggested" content Facebook pushes on people. WE DON'T need yet more INPUT platforms -- we have our phones. We have our Pads WHAT WE DO NEED is meaningful context platform to do meaningful searches and the ability to move information, data and notes. We can't do that wtih the new Web Beta You are KILLING the most prized thing you have -- the most versatile visual platform database on the planet WHY ARE YOU BETTING THE FARM . . . so you can look more like Facebook??? Put the gun down Phil Libin, Step away from from pulling the trigger. Life is meaningful as an External Brain . . .. It's okay Phil . .. You were doing good. . . You were at the top . . . You were . . ., You were ALREADY "bending the universe" You want a platform for working with business -- build it -- separately -- link it somehow. YOU DON'T KILL WHAT IS WORKING AND WHAT IS LEADING THE WORLD ALREADY Put the gun down Phil . .. . .. Put it down . . .
  4. Yup. the web beta is worthless for GTD, its' worthless for Research where you need to do complex retrieval, its worthless for any kind of retrieval where you need context, switching quickly back and forth between notebooks and tags. [edit] took out the -- evernote employees aren't reading this comment lol
  5. mmm hmmm kind of what I thought too, JMichael. We are all just spitting into the wind. When you're "Bending the Universe" -- deep into forum threads is not where you spend your time
  6. Archiving is one of the biggest reasons the mega users recommend tags over a heavy reliance on Notebooks, . . . .Just say-en For me, tags tend to really cut the clutter of false positives, then if your looking at your snippet by "last updated", the older things -- presumably things that would be archived are at the bottom. For GTD -- saved searches in shortcuts for "Important+Urgent", "Important+Not Urgent" etc - saved searches with "Unfinished to-do- items" will automatically Archive a note off the search when the last check box is checked
  7. EVERNOTE HAS CHANGED ITS VISION It is no longer interested in letting you retrieve your information as its main purpose So the New Web UI reflects this new Vision, not what we thought it was. These posts from another thead are very relavent https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/73509-me-vs-market/?locale=en So I think I am seeing the Modus Operandi behind the new Web Based Client UI -- Evernote is no longer interested in our ability to retrieve information as its core use but to be a workspace for collaborative projects for corporations and small work groups -- that's great if you want a good Microsoft replacement but it's not what a lot of us use Evernote for. The 100 year company of information retrieval is gone. I am troubled and keeping my eyes open for the next company that wants and is interested in storing and meaningful Retrieval of MY information.
  8. JMichael, really hit the nail on the head WE NEED THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE OLD LOOK Small Power user here, 6,000+ notes, on it every day iPhone, windows Desktop, iPad 90% of the time I need: I need to see the left panel with shortcuts, notebooks and nested tags I need to see the left panel plus the snippets I need to see the left panel plus snippets AND full note all at once do I like that these can sometimes go away? that the text of the functions and control buttons fade out 80-90% to give more focus to the note? sure but I have to have a way of seeing all of this old functionality,. Adding more mouse clicks and mouse movements to get what I need IS not helping me work.
  9. awwww, no spaces after comma, worked this time for me Thanks gazumped yeah that's the way I usually do it
  10. I tried a comma between them and it only sent the first address Windows desktop
  11. Right I didn't type that right, the 1st Notebook is for ALL your students - you share the whole notebook The second notebook you only share individual singular notes with each parent -- NOT the whole notebook, or you could have a notebook for each student you just have a limit -- would work for a primary teacher not a secondary teacher that might have hundreds of students
  12. Edits and emphases by me Okay let's say . . . this . . . is what you are asking? Reading between the lines, lets further say you have shared a Notebook with your class and Parents with projects the class is working on and maybe a calendar http://bit.ly/19ssncy * * * Caveat -- I am not a teacher * * * * I would set up 3 separate Notebooks for the class 1) one notebook you use like a blog that would post the wonderful things the class is doing together - You share this with the whole class 2) another notebook you might set up wtih each child, then you share individually each child note with the parents -- Share each note separately 3) Create a 3rd notebook for teachers notes, for each child -- this you do NOT share with the class or do NOT share with the parents (other than maybe in person conference . . .I don't know about the delicacies of what you should and shouldn't do there) -- for me I would need to visually differenciate between the note to the parents and the teacher-notes on the student you do not want to post to the parents -- I think I would do it with color image banner across the top of the note - Use red for private teacher notes and green for shared with parent's notes. you want to make it extremely obvious what note you are writing in and editing. I could see how this could get confused. Edit -- here is a link on how to share (obviously you want to test this on yourself or another teacher first so you know you are doing it right) https://evernote.com/contact/support/kb/#!/article/24973036
  13. Is it just me? I wonder what it would be like to be retained to market a file folder system? . . .. .. Now let's see . . . how would I go about doing that? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I need a problem .. . . a problem that isn't getting answered. . . . say what? . . . you say it's been answered? . . .. . .that won't work . . .. . Let's just pretend it isn't answered . . . .. [name drop] . . . [name drop]
  14. Missb this is awesome, I think something like this could work especially well when your sharing a Notebook and there is a shared calendar with links to the appropriate dated events
  15. Ha ha ha . . . . okay, NOW we are getting somewhere. I get that your frustrated. I really do. And I get the Clueless as well. CLUELESS is my middle name and Clueless is my native state. Take a deep breath and just reflect a little bit here. We are 89 posts into this thread and BurgersNFries answered your question in Post number 2. If it were me . .. . . and I am just say-en, if it were me I would run to her and give her a big fat kiss on the cheek, a big thank you, and a big fat PLEASE forgive my cluelessness -- but that's just me . .. . . because I'm always clueless BurgersNFries is on here everyday . . . . she is not paid (that I know of -- she sure as hell should be) and she has answered people's cluless cries for help 12,857 times . .. . she didn't have to . . . . Ever one of your questions have been answered. Every one . . . . and Vance . . . . ..if you can stop seeing red for just a minute . . . . BurgersNFries is STILL reaching out to you STILL trying to help you solve the fragmented image folder problem -- this is tips and tricks you won't get from me (why? because I'm clueless but she knows it) she is telling you EXACTLY how to take all those fragmented images in all the folders and move them into one . . . OMG, Vance . .. . . .. she is STILL trying to help you BurgersNFries deserves the Evernote equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honour !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anyway . . . . . I do understand the frustrations, but please . .. please understand who is trying to help you. Good luck with CloudHQ and wish you the best/
  16. Vance, No . . . . . No it's not. The pdf or photo is *referenced* inside the HTML and you can see it there but the pdf or photo is OUTSIDE and separate of the HTML document in it's original state There are all kinds of free HTML text editor programs -- Look at Sea Monkey, there are hundreds -- I don't see the problem It does that -- it exports the original photo in its native format -- JPG, PNG, whatever -- I don't see the problem
  17. The ScanSnap Evernote Edition (found in the Market Place) looks awesome but out of my price bracket too. I also use the Scansnap 1300 and it goes right into the windows desktop version of Evernote, but of course needs the Desktop or laptop. I've had it 3 years and still scanning away. After 3 years the only problems I am seeing is bundled documents that have come in the mail together -- folded together -- sometimes it tries to feed more than one page -- like 2 or 3 pages might try to go through at the same time. Those kinds of documents I have to unfold and sort of load individually or slightly crinkle the bundle . But on the whole, its still performing amazingly well and at a price point that is about half of the new "The ScanSnap Evernote Edition"
  18. hmmmmmmm ok . . . . so it's one-to-one and you can move it right in to CloudHQ if Evernote goes bad. but as Bruce.0 has pointed out there is a VERY steep charge to do so on CloudHQ (per their price page), but you can already download exported HTML files for free that jefito just explained . . . . .. hmmmmmmmmm Why would you do that Bruce.0, Why did you pay the fee at this time if, you said yourself the price was much steeper than Evernote? Not that it matters too much, other than it helps me understand motivations and how his motivation may or may not reflect my own, but Bruce.0 says he has been a member of Evernote since day one (that's impressive ok I am going to listen to this guy) but this is the first thread he has ever added to . . . . . .O.o . . . . .. (so maybe this is an Alt account and he wants to keep his main account private .. . . maybe . . . maybe he is CloudHQ employee . . .. shrugs) BINGO! So we are really back to the question of -- What is wrong with the way Evernote exports its notes? All the original documents are all right there in the same folder. There is no one-at-a-time extracting JPGs and PDFs files, clearly these forum posters refuse to try a sample export OR they have alternative reasons not to -- Edit -- OR they are just stumbling around and have no idea what Evernote can or can't do -- now *THAT* would fit my MO. I understand clueless very well hmmmmmmmmmm
  19. Have you guys looked at TagSpaces? http://www.tagspaces.org/ It is basically a non-synched local only evernote system with tags and searches. I had seriously considered using this for my financial papers I want to keep private on local computer only, but for now. I prefer the I-Can-Search-All-My-Notes-At-Once approach thru evernote and just use private notebooks. I haven't tested it but TagSpaces seems awesome and for some of this people that are using evernote as a file manager only this might be something to consider, you could certainly have it set up in your dropbox folder online or Google folder -- that would back it up
  20. What is your best 3rd party program (preferably freeware) to tackle long notes that have conflicts where using ones own eyes is just not reasonable I have found WinMerge http://winmerge.org but I haven't tried it yet What are other people using and what is your Best Practice steps (I know this was discussed someplace else but I can't find it )
  21. Vance . . . . seriously . . . .this is just . . . . bizarre. You are venting your frustration. . . . . ok . .. . I get that. That's your point. That's your real point. You're venting. . . . this is sort of how it comes across to me . . . . .you say, . .. "I get it. I get it. It does wonderful things, but all I want to do is drive it to the corner store to pick up milk and bread, like probably most everyone else that uses their NASA Delta III liquid hydrogen second stage Rocket. . . we now understand that its purpose is for deep space exploration and expanding the outer limits of human knowledge, that doesn't mean we have to LIKE it. I'm not saying NASA should supply reverse lights on it for when we back out of the parking spot after buying our lotto tickets, I am just objecting to this idea that somehow Interplanetary Space Travel is somehow as useful and convenient as an end product for individual convenience store shoppers" Vance . . . .We agree with you. . . . . the use you are using it for is not useful and convenient for your use -- a folder system We agree Now if you will excuse me, I need to get some cat food and I am at T-Minus 47 and counting.
  22. This is for other readers The ones ofi is asking for I don't think are currently avialbe -- but make sure you check out the ones that are available -- there are a LOT of Keyboard shortcuts https://evernote.com/contact/support/kb/#!/article/23168552
  23. That's your perception. It wasn't mine. I love what I have learned from the "one helper" ok, yeah . . . . I can see how that would be extremely frustrating especially since you have been using Evernote since , , , at least 22 Jul 2010 -- I mean that sincerely Edit -- I have been using evernote about the same length of time and I had never actually tried to export a sample either. So it was my first time too. I'm just not as upset with the output as you are. I don't dismiss that you might be extremely disappointed. It would suck to be that disappointed in your expectations. No . . . I don't think you are silly. I think your frustrated . . . . and that is understandable. I apologize if you took it wrong . . . .and I mean that. I don't think you are silly. But I was really talking to the people reading this . .. . Seriously, (you other people) export a sample and look at it. if the format is not what you want or scares you, learn from this and plan for other options.
  24. Lets see if I can understand what is happening here. First the fact =============== The Facts =============== 1) Evernote has been experiencing some lag issues, thsi has a lot of people concerned. Even BurgersNFries has reported, on another thread, that her windows client is lagging and she has tens of thousands of notes. 2) People are starting to get concerned. Will the Evernote Team get this fixed? Just how portable IS Evernote and how easy is it to get your files out? That's a legitimate question and one I am asking myself as I am just as concerned as the next person 3) Along comes Vance who wants to get his files out exported "in their original format" A ) If the evernote note is a text file he wants the note exported in txt, B ) If the note contains pictures, he wants that picture exported as a JPG or a PNG whatever it originally file type c) If the note had a PDF file in it he wants it exported as a PDF So in other words, apparently each of Vance's notes are either Text, Image, or PDF -- there ins't a lot of multiple formats in each note 4) BurgersNFries trys to explain, it's misunderstood, other join in -- concern grows -- Can you or can you not get your files out?? !!! ============= I tested it myself ============= I went and exported a bunch of my notes and it worked even better than I thought it would. Internal links from one note to another note are honored and I can move around inside my exported notes. WHAT A RELIEF I can even see the embedded files be it photos, PDF and see the spreadsheets that are embeded JUST like they look in Evernote. The original embedded files be it Jpg PDF are unchanged and everything I took a deep breath. =============== Why the confusion? =============== People, apparently don't understand what Evernote is -- Evernote is a data base. It's not a folder system. What is a Database -- A Data Base is a glorified spreadsheet that can do complex searches with links to things -- Links to JPGs, links to a PDFs links to a text documents But Evernote is so much more than a Database because it displays all these linked things right there in the note view and you can work with them in amazing complex ways. If all you are doing is just using it as a file system where each note is purely a Jpg, purely a PFD, purely a text file, Evernote is not the best application for what you are doing. There have been threads which have talked about how storing all your images in everynote is clunky and not efficient, other applications are better at that etc etc Seriously, if a person doesn't like the envelope idea of a HTML file that is fully and almost universally understood format which will let you put *context*, *meaning* to what is contained inside the note -- then clearly you didn't want to be using Evernote to begin with. What if a note has Text, and PDF and a Jpg and a Recorded note all in the same note? How did you expect Evernote to export that? A) Evernote could just guess which is the most important based on size and export it that way B ) Evernote could export the same note multiple times for each file type Both of those options, I personally find inferior to its current approach. Currently you STILL get the original embedded files in their original condition and format and there is only one note instead of many ========================= so . . .what am I to make of this ========================== Vance has more posts than I have on the forum so he is pretty active .. I guess, Confused is pretty new, bigbobbyboogie is new, a lot of the people worried seem to be pretty new. What is the chance that they havn't reached a level of understanding what Evernote can do and can't do yet? -- maybe kind of high Is their concerns about the sluggishness and portability Valid? yeah . . .. very valid Speaking to readers not yet posted -- Why not just try to export yourself to a temp file and see what it does for yourself. it wasn't hard 1) do a complex search 2) Select all those files 3) File -> Export -> Export as multiple Web Pages 4) then go look yourself. If what you see scares you, then your not using evernote the way it was intended and there are clearly better ways, such as Drop Box or Google cloud drive BurgersNFries can be abrupt but her advice is always spot on -- and the help she has given to people, me including, has been phenomenal with insight I have gotten from no one else
  25. The annotations options are very limited. The thinking, I'm guessing, is give Evernote uses a quick and easy way to make very quick and readable annotations -- "working files" -- sort of -- not like presentation of polished finished products. The outline mode gives the best chance of readability against all manner of possible noise of a background You didn't say what platform you are using (please do so when you ask for help, each version of EN has small differences --as much as they try to keep it the same) But I seriously doubt that a lot of effort will be put on making the annotation with a lot more bells and whistles -- there are so many areas people are asking for things and there is only so much time If making it look pretty is important you might consider doing the annotations with a 3rd party program on your laptop or desktop back home I could be wrong but as far as I know this is all we get for now
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