JoeTaxpayer

On 8/16/2023 at 11:39 AM, gazumped said:

Hi.  Try signing in to Evernote.com via any browser. 

Perfect. The web version led me to update on a Mac that is not my main system to confirm, and it looks fine. iPad still taking some getting used to. 

I am running EN on my MacPro, Version 7.14, which is old, I know. I also run it on my iPad, and there, it's the latest version. 

The iPad view has changed over the years, and it's not as easy to navigate as what I see on my Mac. 

I don't want to update the Mac until I can see what i'm in for. Short of loading it to another Mac and just seeing what's up, are there any screenshots handy? Not finding any on the site. 

On 7/27/2023 at 1:41 PM, Bryanne said:

Although I guess you need to have a Synology NAS to be able to have access to that. 

I bought it just over 2 years ago. I had a small WD NAS that had promise, got me hooked on the idea of a good NAS, but didn't quite have the power for what I wanted. After a lot of time researching, I went with Synology, and happy I did. My main use has been to use it as a Plex server (an app that let me stream my video collection to any TV with access to the app). I can also watch video when away from home, on a TV, my phone or iPad. Second use is to backup from my computers. Not cheap, but was worth it, in my opinion. You can look and see if it's for you. Many, many apps run on it, depending what you want it to do. 

On 7/25/2023 at 2:56 PM, Bryanne said:

And are you saying that with your new setup you can dispense with EN - but what app would you go to? 

That was the issue, choosing the app. I loaded Synology Note Station and quickly found that it did not show PDFs the way EN does. For me, that's a deal killer. Then Joplin. Better, but the view was cut off, i.e. the PDF image is there, but only 1/3 or so, instead of viewing the full page at a time. Raven, AppleNotes, a couple more, and no luck. 

I realized, I should have listened to the advice to contact EN and ask what my renewal rate was. The replied quickly that my price will not change. I am at $45/yr. Every member seem to be getting different offers. In my case, I think I'll be with EN for a while. (And still just shaking my head that this one feature is so tough to find)

On 7/10/2023 at 11:57 AM, PinkElephant said:

@JoeTaxpayer  But as a subscriber you can use support - to get a definite answer.

I wrote: "My acct is the old "Premium Member", last bill was $45.
Can you advise what my renewal price will be? I am seeing some large increases, and would like to know so I can plan ahead."

Reply: "I understand that you'd like to know if you're having an increase for your upcoming renewal. Thank you for getting in touch about this, let me help you.
Upon checking this on my end, I can confirm that there will be no price changes for your upcoming subscription renewal."

So, in the end, I'm sorry I didn't jump on your advice the minute I read it. Although, the exercise of trying to find software that replicates how EN handle PDFs was eye-opening. 6+ apps and none do it in a useful way. Now I just need to spend a few more minutes deleting all this useless other software. 

20 hours ago, Bryanne said:

Super annoyed with this price increase - which I describe as GOUGING

I can't help but wonder how many customers are at the free level? And what their cost is to keep these customers.

I've been paying for some time, $45/yr, and I don't even recall why I made the jump. Only that the paid version felt like it was worth every cent for what it offered. So in my case, using it for free for a time got me hooked. But, at $130/year, I'd have stayed with 'free' and kept looking for other solutions. Now, I own a NAS and self hosting my own cloud to replace Evernote leaves me enough $$ to also have real cloud backup to avoid a disaster. Asked, 'so, given they left the price the same for so long, what is a fair price today'? I'd say $75-$80, tops. Maybe it's an emotional thing, but cracking the $100 price point is tough. 

17 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

You were on a grandfathered plan - rebated Premium. You never paid the full price for a Premium account, or it would have taken you automatically to Personal 2 years ago.

A is your decision to move from rebated old to fully paid new plan

Shows you how oblivious I may be - I never realized I had anything 'rebated'. 

Do I have a decision here? I can stay on what you are calling "rebated Premium"? 

In the end, I respect your math, really, it puts things in a bit better perspective. But, from a customer perspective, it's strange to be grateful for "no increases over 10 years" and then suddenly see such an increase. Whatever the underlying reasons may be, I paid X, and unless my grandfathering continues (which now I am wondering), I'm asked to pay Y.  

I started with 'Free' in 2009, and quickly saw the value in EN. I just mean, I used it often enough that the $1/wk was worth it. My account is Premium and last I paid $45 for the next year.  As Penultimate seemed to be abandoned, and simple things that should have been repaired were left broken, I started using Notability. Even though it's a different app with different features, many of those features replaced some that EN offered. Now I see the equivalent level  will cost me $130/yr. And I'll be spending some time figuring out how tough migrating my notes will be. I see members upset about a 50% increase. 45 to 130 is nearly 3X, a 189% increase. 

19 hours ago, agsteele said:

Evernote notes aren't paginated. To test, I exported a longish note that I have as a PDF using the Export PDF function in Evernote for desktop.  It appeared in the PDF as six consecutive pages. I then tried printing to the PDF printer and that created a four page document as the margins were different. But four separate pages.

In my case, I have documents created through Penultimate. While on the desktop version of Evernote, I look at the doc and right-click "save as PDF". That PDF is one page which has multiple pages of my document shrunk to fit. To convert to PDF, I've been "print as PDF" which works but is tedious. (I've started to use Notability, which syncs for me to Google Drive, and the document it creates on GD is a PDF, scaled correctly, reflecting the document on my iPad. 

On 12/21/2021 at 12:13 AM, Akshay Dadhwal said:

The 'Export to PDF' option converts the selected notes to a single PDF. 

Yes, but even a note that runs 4 pages is converted to one page PDF. I need to "print as" to convert to a normal, multipage PDF. 

After nearly 6 years, I've moved on. The advice from others in this forum led me to Notability which I'm really liking.

One question was about integration. Notability easy lets you set up a target folder in Google Drive where the document is stored as a PDF. This alone saves me a lot of time as I don't need to Print/save as PDF from Evernote to send a copy to someone or to print. 

And, the lasso feature, grabbing a bit of text or image you outline? In PU, there were always bits left behind/missing.  That was the bug that bothered me most, but they never fixed. 

I still use the paid level of Evernote, but Penultimate is behind me. 

Good luck finding what fits you best. 

Kind people here recommended Notability, and that's the app I use now. It integrates with many apps, Google Drive among them, So I write on the IPad and the notes are on my laptop and desktops instantly. 

Penultimate had great potential.  Out of 8500 "notes" I have, 500 were written on Penultimate, mostly math notes/problems. RIP, PE. (Still an Evernote user for the other 90%+ of my stuff)

I started using Penultimate in 2013. And really loved it. I've been very disappointed to see that this app hasn't been updated, it seems an orphan side product. I'd love to move on, but I am still a paid Evernote user, still love that app, and i have too many (over 500) documents in Penultimate that I continue to maintain. It would be a long project to break away. 

I wish the good people at Evernote would make a statement, either "Hang in there, we have some improvements coming" or "Sorry, PE has reached its end of life". No new support"

I am so sorry to find this answer to my same question. 

Penultimate as part of my (paid) Evernote app had so much potential, but needed a bit of TLC. An ongoing series of new features, small ones, could have made this far more useful. Given that I can happily drop a PDF into Evernote, it should be a no-brainer to add the ability to have that load back to Penultimate. 

I am about to load a 34 page PDF, and it will take a most cumbersome process. Screenshotting the pages, transferring to iPad via Dropbox. Then loading a page at a time to Penultimate. Importing a full PDF would be a great feature. Absent that, I'm considering moving on. 

That's my solution. Embarrassed this didn't occur to me. Much appreciated. 

Mac Desktop program. The converted page opens in Acrobat as a PDF 13 inches wide by 89 inches long. I suppose I could use the print option "tiling" to force it to print on multiple pages properly.  I'd have liked for it to convert to proper 8.5 x 11 page size. (But I'll accept the answer that my expectation was technically ignorant, from the programer's perspective.) 

For a single page document, the 'convert to PDF' works fine. But. When I use web clipper and and web page runs many pages, the resulting PDF is troublesome. One very long PDF with no easy way to print. Is this a known bug? Any plans to fix it? 

I discovered it gone via the EN app on Apple OS 10.10.5 Yosemite. But then gone even when accessing via web. 

What was most curious was that the info box showed they were deleted in October, but were from a different folder. Strange, but no actual loss.  

Much thanks! That's all I needed to make the move. I still love EN, but farewell to Penultimate.

Too bad. Sorry EN didn't see the value in Penultimate. I need to get over it and just move on. 

@darioangelo - I've never used anything but PE on my iPad.  Can you tell me one thing about Noteshelf?  For the paper selections, is there a grid paper choice? I use PE mostly for math class and the graph paper was a great feature. 

I had a notebook set up, _New , to be clear there is an underbar then the word New. I used this to have the notebook be a the top of the list, and treated it as an 'unfiled' folder. Going through it every so often to keep, move, delete, etc. 

Today, that folder, and a couple others that started with underbar, were deleted. The notes all sitting in trash, and all show 10/27 delete date as well as the original folder being 'Forbes' not the _NEW folder. 

Not a rant, asking - Is that use of _XXX for folder name frowned upon?  I can't have been the only one to use that to keep a folder up top. 

I got the note on this 2 hours ago, just saw it. Glad they took care of that. 

Now for the bug fixes from this thread. 

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Important Penultimate Notice

With Apple’s release of iPadOS, you will experience temporary usability issues with Penultimate if you choose to update to iPadOS now. You will still have the ability to launch the app, but you will be unable to create and save drawings until a new version of Penultimate is released.

We are working quickly to restore Penultimate’s functionality for iPadOS. In the meantime, here are some options:

•  Keep using your current iOS version on your iPad. This interruption only applies to iPadOS. Penultimate will continue to work with previous versions of iOS. •  Download the Evernote app on iPad to get similar functionality. You’ll be able to: •  Sketch directly on the screen using your finger or a stylus •  Select from different pen tips and highlighter colors •  Draw shapes and have them snap into place •  Work on detailed drawings by pinching to zoom in •  Save drawings as notes directly into your Evernote account

If you have NOT updated to iPadOS, we recommend waiting until a new version of Penultimate is released. This will ensure you can continue using all the features of Penultimate.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you, and we appreciate your patience. We’ll let you know as soon as an updated version of Penultimate is available for you to install.

Thanks, Evernote Team

 

I got this message yesterday. They know they need to push an update. Let's see how long it takes. 

Penultimate was the main reason I bought the latest iPad. I write notes with it all the time. 

Glad to see this warning. I'll monitor this thread before updating my OS.  I'll see how to start a ticket, I've been premium for a long time.