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Before version 10.3 I was able to drag and drop to move a single note at a time (multiple notes were not working anymore either). From version 10.3, I am unable to move any note that way.

For some reason, this is now a feature request, not a bug report !...

This was moved from "issues" to "requests". Does it mean this is actually not a bug, but that the functionality was voluntarily discontinued?!

I have tried the new version to see if it's any better.

I cannot move notes to another notebook by dragging and dropping.

legacy : 

v10 : 

We used to have the note creation date and short clickable URL (domain name) located over the notes titles.

It is very useful information, I would like to be able to have it back. It would be best to make this optional, and allow users to fill that space with the most relevant information for their needs.

Same for Windows app.

11 minutes ago, aashish108 said:

Transferring notes to another workspace is buggy, slow in Nimbus. 

 

Today in Evernote, after moving my notes to different notebooks / notebook piles, I have realized 13 notebooks simply disappeared on my iPad (sync is completed and I tried to reinstall the app). Not sure it gets much worse...

I experience the same thing, both on MacOS and Windows.  It makes my computers hot and noisy.

4 hours ago, DTLow said:

Evernote Legacy is currently supported by the sync process

 

It still works, but is unsupported by Evernote : if a security patch is needed, Evernote will simply point out Legacy is no longer under development and that they told users to upgrade to v10.

3 hours ago, DTLow said:

I appreciate the release of the Evernote Legacy product (Mac/Windows)

Officially unsupported, so will not receive updates / security fixes (if needed). The least they could have done is maintain the two versions for as long as v10 is a work in progress.

3 hours ago, michaelsalk said:

I am switching over to FREE OneNote. Can anyone think of a reason why I shouldn't?

You should try it for a while. In my experience, sync is terribly slow and buggy. I've dealt with all kinds of problems trying to migrate my notes and sync them to all my devices.

Some really basic features and options that should be part of the program require macros. I realized I would probably end up paying for Onetastic. For example, you can't sort your notes automatically (by date, name,...). There is no option for new notes to be added on top of the list of notes as is the case in Evernote. So you always end up with your newest note being burried all the way down. There is no note preview / thumbnail, neither a text extract nor an image. So you actually have to fill in a proper title for every single note to have something you can work with. OneNote web clipper doesn't allow you to clip a complete webpage. It will take a screenshot, which is inferior to an html clipping where you can readily follow links, select and copy text, etc

You should look into the options you have when/if you want to move your notes out from OneNote. It does not look good at all. You will probably end up with a bunch of PDFs

I did notice a significant performance improvement on 10.2 compared to 10 and 10.1 on my computers. Still nowhere near as fast as native, but unfortunately it seems like the only native multiplatform option is OneNote and I have many other reasons to hate it

On 10/27/2020 at 11:22 AM, Stuhrer said:

Yes, Joplin is interesting. I tried it using WebDAV sync on my Synology NAS. But I found a number of problems which at this moment are showstoppers.

1. The Evernote import does not recreate internal note links. These links are still pointing to notes in the Evernote database. I would have to re-create all internal links which is impossible.
2. I had serious problems with syncing. All attachments in the imported notes had conflicts and many notes could not be synced at all. And since I am using my notes on different devices this is important for me. But this could be due to the installation on my NAS and might not be Joplin's fault.
3. There is no Web client. This is the biggest problem. The web client allows me to access my data on any computer without an installation of a client.

1. (edit : hadn't seen your following post)

About internal links, the issue was discussed. To quote the main developer (Laurent) :

Yes I've just checked and indeed since Evernote doesn't export the note IDs, the links to notes cannot be preserved. Unfortunately another reason not to use Evernote since they don't allow exporting the complete data.

2. I set up Joplin sync to my Synology NAS through WebDAV. I haven't had issues (except with >100MB attachements on the mobile version but this is a documented limitation). I am using Android, Windows, MacOS and iOS.

I have been trying lots of apps lately to have a better idea of alternatives. Here is a list that could help someone who is looking to try something else. Those apps could be considered alternatives for some of the usage one might have for Evernote. Most of them won't work for you, but perhaps one of them could.

Joplin

Typora

Obsidian

Notion

Bear

DevonThink

KeepIt

OneNote (Look into OneTastic for extra features)

Simplenote

Raindrop (exclusively for clipping web content)

FSNotes

Nimbus notes

Notejoy

QOwnNotes

Notable

nvAlt

Ulysses : mostly for writing, no WYSIWYG editor, pleasant design, Apple ecosystem only

Scrivener : mostly for writing, feature rich

My personal favourites so far are Joplin and Obsidian. I like Typora a lot but it won't automatically delete attachments when unlinked.

Notion is powerful but slower and I hate the fact it's all online. Cannot open and edit an attachment directly with another app.

Bear is nice but Apple only and it doesn't handle tables (!)

DevonThink is great but Apple only.

Pretty scary.

52 minutes ago, Kolmir said:

It may not be that simple. Maybe in short term yes, but in a longer perspective probably not.

Power users usually stays with a service for longer. They evangelize others about advantages of an app. They provide valuable feedback on forums. Power users are also more willing to choose the premium versions of subscriptions.

39 minutes ago, Alvin C said:

Whatever they choose, if the app is still unreliable with battery hog and slowness, the remaining 98% will not stay long.

I agree with both of you, my point was simply to illustrate what I think is the reasoning of EN management.

It is easy to anticipate that power users are going to be very unhappy when switching from an efficient native software to a slow webapp. I don't think they are that ignorant.

I cancelled my subscription and am in the process of finding a replacement because I believe the writing is on the wall. I am not a target customer. I think there is less than 1% probability that they are ever going to be able to make this app as fast as the native version. Evernote was supposed to be my external brain. And I want my brain extension to be quick and responsive.

13 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Yes, this is what I was trying to say in my post above, about the difference between a raw percentage of users and the intensity of use: how does 50% of casual users using a feature 15 minutes per day compare with 3% of users using a feature for 5 hours a day?

Keep in mind that EN doesn't receive more money when a user is more active. Any premium user has the same weight. If the 2% power users are leaving and the same number of new casual users replace them, income statement is not going to change one bit.

It is obviously a move to cut costs. Management has decided that it is ok for Evernote to be slow, unresponsive and heavyweight, if that makes future development / maintenance easier.

I would think their bet is that customers will adjust to the performance drop and stop complaining after a while. Let's see how it plays out.

I do not like the direction that has been taken at all. So I have cancelled my subscription.

The fact that many perfectly sensible feature requests are being ignored was acceptable as long as we could thing the developers' time was being used to improve the software for a new release further down the way. With this release, I can see that this has clearly not been the case.

Lots of resources have been poured into a low performance piece of software. Its main purpose is to be easier to maintain on multiple platforms.

Software should be getting faster, fixing problems and bringing more functionnality to the user with new versions. A different path has been taken here.

Vote added.

They are probably afraid customers would actually start using those 10GB upload a month we are paying for...

Please solve this issue.