Jimmy Bionic

6 hours ago, AlbertR said:

Hmm, Plugins would make EN to get complicated to manage for teams. They're better advised to implement nested tags for Teams inside EN-core.

Separate plugins maintained by independent developers are the way to ensure that the solution is gonna stay free for longer

6 minutes ago, AlbertR said:

I'm sure they do exactly this to offer Teams accounts to SME-looking usage. And to be honest: Teams accounts are a very good choice 👍 (and if tagging features will be improved there, it will became a perfect choice 😉)

yeah, Joplin offers nested tags via its plugins. Evernote couldn't implement the hierarchical tags for centuries.. 🤥 That's the way they are ""working their butts off"", pardon my French. Seem to be having only marketing folks working hard. But the way they did targeting makes me believe that "marketing folks" have no relation to marketing, and in fact are their only employees

10 minutes ago, gazumped said:

runs to 160KB of compiled code servicing millions

Well, Webclipper extension seems a bit thicker than that, but anyway thanks for letting us know that IT support never attends the forum to read about users concerns  😄

sorry for being here an assh*le lately, just couldn't resist the temptation, given the backstory

30 minutes ago, gazumped said:

After a whole 10 seconds experimentation I can offer:  an Evernote bookmark takes up 33K.  Dragging & dropping the URL from my browser to the desktop takes up 95 bytes.  D&D from desktop to note bulks that up to 281 bytes.  So maybe D&D to desktop (or import folder) and then (if necessary) D&D one or more shortcuts to a note?

EDIT: the import folder has the edge,  because that then auto-names your note with the book title...

Well, this is what I do when I wanna bookmark. lets say, a Chrome extension to watch it. Because by some reason Evernote refuses to bookmark anything from Chrome webstore. So I have to do it manually by literally copying-pasting the URL. Though, frankly speaking, that seems a bit stupid. Automation is all about making things easier for people, not about encouraging them to engage in manual copying 😆

in fact, since all of us here seem to be somewhat advanced in terms of IT knowledge and coding, you would probably agree that my request implies only minor code changes. Because it's not about writing code up, it's rather about removing some lines from existing code and putting some checks to ensure that no extra data will be loaded 🤣 Otherwise, we wouldn't want to disturb you from your lazy idleness. But your aggressive marketing campaign launched lately makes us believe you are losing the ground....

My view is that Evernote does marketing the wrong way. You should target differently, folks. Some home office companies, SME etc use Evernote for synchronization their work between different employees. You can probably identify those by the number of sync requests, sharing requests and by IPs. But you seem to have chosen the way of carpet bombings 😆

On 10/25/2023 at 1:29 AM, ecirbus said:

This just keeps bugging me. I have to create another account, stop making notes, or pay. It just appeared today. Does anyone have this problem? How do you get rid of it?

 

 

Well, yeah, it's been on the news lately with the Russian IT community buzzing too 😀

Check the neighbouring threads to make sure that you aint gone insane, and people are having the same unexpected issue too

6 minutes ago, Jon/t said:

Evernote does bookmark clipping differently to Joplin and sends a thumbnail over with the bookmark.

Well, thanks for telling me what I already know 😄 All I meant to say is that Evernote can spare some cloud space by offering a different options set 

Joplin does it differently though.. see attached

2 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Depends how you're clipping I guess.  There are options that ignore the image...

 

Well, thanks for raising that. In the dialogue window that you've attached I would normally go for "Bookmark" option. Should I do it different then?

Hi there,

I've tested Joplin and its webclipper, the good thing about is that if offers the option of clipping URLs without saving the pictures included within each link.

Now as I've noticed the last month has been particularly "laborious" for my Evernote's account, because I've reached nearly 70% of my monthly 60Mb limit.  I have never been so close to my limit before in a nearly decade of using Evernote. I would normally utilize only a few Mbs of my space every month. No wonder Evernote has chosen my account for their aggressive marketing campaign. So I have asked myself, what did I do different last month in terms of clipping (most routine operation for which I utilize my Evernote)? And then I've realized that I've started clipping some Libgen ebooks from my RSS stream. So I've checked the bookmarks and, sh*t, I found that nearly every bookmark that I clipped from my Chrome also had the picture of the book cover (see below attached screenshot from my Evernote and also below Libgen's example link):

https://libgen.st/book/index.php?md5=149E096A1DC7D928E76B7B5ED824812F

While every picture would normally weigh up to 500Kb. In fact, I don't need those pictures at all, all I needed was the link and the book title along with its author. 

So why would Evernote clipper do any extra work by attaching the pics I dont even need? Is there any way this could be done by the same way as Joplin does?

In fact, I would prefer that Evernote redo all saved bookmarks to remove all attached pics completely by leaving only URLs with titles, if I may ask that...

4 hours ago, s2sailor said:

 It is also confusing since the online free plan documentation is now only correct for some users, and wrong for others.

Agreed. The published pricing policy is absolutely misleading. Out of the whole bunch of free note-taking apps available. incl. Joplin, OneNote etc.,  only Evernote chose to block users from creating new notes and simultaneously notify them of the policy change, which is usually regarded  as non-sense akin betrayal. 

But my main concern is private data leaks. The moment like this is  too convenient for competitors to intervene and arrange that to finally bury Evernote's reputation.

18 hours ago, gazumped said:

You may be offered a discount for your first year.

See websites like https://noteapps.info or https://toolfinder.co for possible options.

I would be very cautious to take on any particular advice from Evernote from now on. I think that users are free to choose from many more options:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_note-taking_software

The motivation for migration shouldn't also disregard the available toolset for migration, including 

Google query: evernote AND import site:sourceforge.net

or Google query: evernote AND import site:github.com

2 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

But now I have a different question. It may be that such an unannounced test will appear differently in some business cultures than in others. I can tell you that in the U.S.A. it feels wrong and offensive. But perhaps in Europe it is normal to randomly (?) choose a segment of your users to experiment on? I have long had great respect for the more stringent limitations on business activity that I seem to see in the E.U. (I have been delighted to see certain alphabetical constructions get spanked a little). But if this experimentation is commonplace there, while I would think it is almost unheard of in the U.S., that may be another cultural difference.

Same things are actually here in Russia. Sudden changes in pricing policy are no good, especially given the fact that the available information on free accounts limitations appears to be rather misleading

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005247-Evernote-system-limits

17 hours ago, gazumped said:

There are other 'free' services out there - that make their money by showing you ads,  or selling details of your online activity.  Evernote don't do that

well, we don't know that for sure yet 🙂 we don't know what's gonna happen to the data of the users who decide to retire their accounts.

While the way the new changes are being enforced and implemented makes me highly suspicious of what's gonna happen next

2 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

This has nothing to do with Middle East politics.  Evernote was sold to Bending Spoons in Italy about a year ago and the new team has been busy with many changes, some good: improved sync, and speed, and some not so good: pricing and how they are changing the free plan.  Personally, I think the free plan does need to sunset, but I'm not a fan of their approach.  Going from free to $129 USD is a step too far.  They need a basic plan if they hope to entice any sizable amount of the free population of users over to paying customers.

 

Thanks. Well, my understanding is that the choice ain't that limited as far as freeware is concerned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_note-taking_software

In fact, backups and sourceforge tools seem to be the right way for moving forward 🙂

1 minute ago, s2sailor said:

It looks like Evernote is doing a marketing test targeting some free users, but not all in an attempt to migrate free users over to a paid plan.  They have not communicated this at all (that I've seen) but we have been guessing based on posts in the forums.  It looks like the free plan may be removed at some point and they could be testing approaches on how best to manage this.

Well, I ain't here to judge about the pricing policy, but the the price tag they put in their ads seems overestimated 🙂 the other thing clearly being inconsistency with the above link which clarifies the limits for each type of user account. 

A sudden change as to disabling the creation of new notes strikes the most. I dunno if this has anything to do with changes in the Middle East politics. But in my view the usefulness of the latest software changes clearly undermines the whole marketing and targeting concept. So I've started pulling my data off the program just in case if a new earthquake hits the earth.

Hi there,

I've been a user of the free Evernote account for the last few years. My users statistics is as follows:

Total number of notes - less than 5000

Number of notebooks - 6

Number of new notes per month - up to 100

There was an app update last month which raised some concerns about UI changes with new popups blocking the view (see attached screenshot) and removal of the top toolbar, which I don't know if it is possible to retire and return respectively. Evernote has become noticeably slow with the retirement of the previous Legacy version.

Now Evernote constantly puts up adverts on my screen every day proposing to switch to a new plan. But today I've noticed something new after update: Evernote doesn't permit me create any new notes, the advert says in my native Russian  that I am only allowed to have now 1 notebook and 50 notes. I am a little surprised of the change because the following link says that I am still within the limits of the free account:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005247-Evernote-system-limits

Can anybody enlighten me on what I've been missing so far to fill the picture?

Thanks.

1 hour ago, agsteele said:

I may be misunderstanding your hierarchy for tags but there is an ability to do this. This post may be helpful

https://evernote.com/blog/how-to-use-tags-to-organize-evernote/

 

From the article it is still not clear for me how I am supposed to use hashtags and numbers in order to create a hierarchy for my tags..

Hi there,

I assume some folks on the forum must have been over this before. Evernote is handy in many aspects, though I somehow tend to use it mainly for tagging my bookmarks, perhaps even more often than for keeping my notes. Once Chrome and other browsers have tagging implemented for bookmarks, Evernote is supposedly gonna start losing  its audience.

First thing to notice is hierarchical tags. Currently Evernote doesn't have them. Lets say I have two tags: microservices and Kubernetes. Apparently, Kubernetes is for microservice management, so the tag must be included within a more general tag name of microservices. Evernote doesn't allow to do that yet.

The other thing is automated tagging. There is some clear development in this area: https://towardsdatascience.com/extracting-text-from-pdf-files-with-python-a-comprehensive-guide-9fc4003d517?gi=732b9a4c62a1

Since Evernote has the capacity to manage large collections of attachments in PDF, audio or other formats, it'd be great if Evernote could also do tagging automatically by using the AI to analyse the content of a bookmarked page or a file, then by matching it against the existing set of tags a user has in his/her collection in order to reduce the range of possible tag names and, thereby, to facilitate further search by a user. 

Looks like a heck of work, but the impact is quite clear 

9 minutes ago, Jon/t said:

You need to select the three dots on a notebook and not just a note. You can also right click any notebook in the sidebar and export it as an ENEX file for backups. It does all the notes. 

Oh, my goodness. I see now. Thanks. Although still it doesn't seem a partcularly friendly way of exporting in bundle, especially when compared with how it used to work in the past.

20 minutes ago, agsteele said:

There are native installers for Windows and MacOS. https://github.com/vzhd1701/evernote-backup/releases/tag/1.9.2 No need for Docker or Python.

Then follow the installation instructions and it worked easily for me. https://github.com/vzhd1701/evernote-backup#usage

Doesn't seem to be a particularly secure way of making a backup. Is there any possibility of a leak of my password/account credentials when I interact with the third-party app? The instructions from your link tell me to share my authorisation details

3 minutes ago, gazumped said:

If you go your your Notebooks page in v10 and check the three-dots menu to the right of the name,  you can export the entire contents of the notebook (without any 100-note limits) to an ENEX file.  Not very helpful if you have a lot of notebooks,  but doable for a dozen or so...

EDIT - on a desktop...  mobiles and the web version don't have the option.

I think I need a video instruction or screenshot to do all that. 

My first humble attempt has failed when I tried to click on three-dots in the upper-right corner because I've been offered to export only 1 active note (see attached screenshot)

Thanks.

Evernote-backup doesn't seem to be particularly user-friendly and requires docker & python to be deployed for a start

https://github.com/vzhd1701/evernote-backup

What a disappointment!

Thanks God Evernote doesn't ban Russian users by their IP as yet, given all the sanctions we've been exposed to since a year ago. But we never know what awaits us in the future..

12 minutes ago, agsteele said:

I schedule evernote-backup to do its things every Sunday morning at 5am so I always have an up to date set of files.

Sounds like an even deeper automation of backups  (supposedly, via Windows Task Scheduler) than I'd expected

Hi there,

Following the most recent update to version 10.63.3 I have discovered that I am no longer able to export all my 4600 notes for backup. Because the new version of app has set the limit of maximum of 100 notes that I can select. This is the Evernote free version I talk about.

Is there any way to revert the changes and install the older version, so I could be more flexible with my notes? 

The legacy version I've tried to find in my bookmarks seems to be no longer available by the following link

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

Kind regards

Seems to  be resolved for a while. Clipper runs smoothly at the moment. Thanks.