Dominik Kociecki

On 1/19/2023 at 5:58 PM, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Welcome to the forums. Generally speaking, it is best to read through a thread before posting. To hide the note list/preview panel, see the numerous suggestions in this earlier post:

 

Your post for me is not addining anything to this discussion.
This button was mentioned before and there is reply that this is not what we need.

6 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

So maybe strategy is not that central any more compared to before.

This might be part of strategy

The strategy may be to follow what the users need  

6 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Well, this was just matter of factual. Legacy 7.14 (notice that Windows is 6.25) is 64Bit software (Windows legacy is still 32 bit, that’s why it does not support Windows dark mode), and supports dark mode.

Nice! Didn't knew about this! 👍🏼

2 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Well, this was just matter of factual. Legacy 7.14 (notice that Windows is 6.25) is 64Bit software (Windows legacy is still 32 bit, that’s why it does not support Windows dark mode), and supports dark mode.

This is only one example of how ruined EN was before they decided to cut all old rope. They even did not have a common code base for Windows and Mac, and needed to code everything twice. They hardly made it every year to get ready when the new OS release wiped the canvas.

In such a situation you don’t need a strategy, you need a chainsaw.

Yes, I agree that there was logic in move they did. Don't like new versions, but there was logic in this decision and good they have recorded those movies with CEO.
But it's past.
My question is about now + future.
Reading your replies it seems to me there is nowhere anything about strategy and they don't like to share anything about where they want to go.
It's ok if they do like that. But wanted to ask - maybe somebody knows something what I don't.

Just now, Boot17 said:

There is a lot of information about that out there. Here is one such place: https://evernote.com/blog/ceo-update-january-2022/

> In my last post on the Evernote blog, I said that Evernote’s newest features, like Home, Tasks, and Calendar, “expand the vista of what Evernote can do for you.” Time has proven that statement true. Evernote’s new building blocks convert our newly reinvigorated mission of “remember everything and accomplish anything” into concrete capabilities for our users. At the same time, our reconfigured product lineup—Evernote Free, Evernote Personal, Evernote Professional, and Evernote Teams—build upon that foundation of new productivity features and better reflect how customers use our product.

I posted this in another thread:

> Stuck in a quagmire of legacy tech debt and getting their lunch eaten by new competitors, EN puts all effort into the new v10. It is released and there are is a ton of legacy tech debt to resolve and address... lots of fires to put out. They also wanted to get some big wins with the new version after that -- and for them that was Tasks and Calendar integration. A synchronization overhaul is now also already underway.

Evernote's ship was sinking with the legacy product. It was sink or swim. v10 and the new features is the way they are swimming.

 

Thx for link.
Yes, I seen all videos with Evernote CEO when there was new versions pushed out.
It's not nice for me but I understand why they did all this.

BUT I'm still interested in strategy
If there is not, than ok.
Just asking.
No hard emotions or judgment.

6 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Again - who needs to know ?

It's interesting for me as I'm person who is involved in strategies in companies - this is way I think about producs when I make decisions about them.
If it's not interesting for you than why you reply to my post?

2 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Home is an offer to build your dashboard, Tasks is an offer to convert „dead“ notes into workflows, calendar integration is an offer to combine content and planning. I don’t care if it is „strategic“, if it adds bang for my bucks.

This sounds nice, shows some bigger perspective.

PS. I have asked question about strategy. This is not emotional complain post. It's not nice for me to read posts with senteces like "change your computer to mac" or "use other product".

Just now, Boot17 said:

For me some of Evernote key features are:

• Find a note quickly. (I can do this very quickly with the Switch-To command. I love it.)
• Save and keep documents and images and be able to find them. (OCR searching on images and searching in PDFs is awesome.)
• Make notes actionable. Tasks was a great addition for this and I'm glad they are there.
• Dead simple note entry. It's so easy to add data into Evernote compared to more curated personal management systems like Notion.
• Built-in PDF Viewer.
• Ability to attach any kind of document to the note.
• Availability on all major platforms. (I use it on iOS, iPad, Windows, Mac and Web)
• Consistency in UI and UX across all platforms. I think Evernote hit this one out of the park with the new version 10.
• Along with the above point, a clean UI. The Legacy version just didn't look great to me and was too cramped.
• Data integrity. This has worked out very well for me. I lost data one time due to (what I thought was) a sync issue, but could have recovered with version history (but I didn't have.)

I find tasks very useful and am glad they are there. I don't use the Web Clipper, but I wouldn't rant against how it is garbage and should be abandoned.

Ok, I'm aware that there are other users of Evernote who like all new features.
I know.
But do anyone know what is Evernote strategy?

6 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Hmmm - either your caps lock got stuck, or you intentionally used all upper case.

The later is seen as shouting at a fellow user and disregarded in this forum.

I like to use sometimes caps but you are right -> message edited.

Looking on new features I ask myself question - > What is Evernote strategy?

For me evernote key features are:
-ability to fast search in many ways (all notes, in notebook ect)
-stability
-ergonomic pane (I turn off most of addons)

For calendar and tasks I have Office 365 + some clients use G-SUIT like most companies.
If not MS/Google than for teams planning there is already mature solution -> NOZBE

What the hell is Evernote stratedy with all those taks, widgets, calendar sync ect? 😟

I feel that Evernote is slowly loosing it's unique features up to now (since long time I read that new version will have legacy features being added).
It was the same with BlackBerry, when they left their unique technology and devices with physical keyboard they lost their uniqunes at all and there were gone from the market...
That's why I ask what unique value is Evernote planning to have and develop for it's users.

I would love to pay more for new legacy version with just dark mode added....
Don't need all other garbade like skething, tasks, calendar, bla bla bla...

2 hours ago, Mike P said:

If you don't need the sidebar there is also the "expand note" view. Press the grey two arrow button at the top left of the note

 

The "no note list" view that @agsteeledescribes can be obtained in a few ways. Here's my current list:

• Where you have added a note to shortcuts
• From the recent notes list
• a note in the "go to" section under search (either one of the ones that is there before you start typing into the search bar or the search suggestions that come up)
• Any notes that are found in the quick search (Windows ctrl+Q)
• Notes opened from "Home" as already explained by @agsteele

 

We don't need note preveiew (NOT sidebar) 😕

Same here.
Using legacy because of such stupid things like this -> can't hide note preview

New version solved my problem too, thank you for fast update release

34 minutes ago, Shane D. said:

@DominikK

You wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by empty widget space, can you send a screenshot?

For what I described, from the Customize screen, make sure the Scratch Pad is the top widget on the list.

My freeze screen from iPhone

4 minutes ago, Shane D. said:

please make sure that you're putting the notes widget block in the top spot

What does it mean?
Should we have empty widget space or there should be something?
I have empty widgets space and after reinstallation it freezes the same way on home screen.

1 hour ago, Shane D. said:

Hi there,

Thanks for reaching out!

@NickBH This is an issue that is affecting a small number of users, and we are working to fix it as quickly as possible.

In the meantime, you can workaround this issue by doing the following:

1. Uninstall Evernote on your iOS device
2. Log into your account on the Web or Desktop app
3. Go to Home, then Customize
4. Make sure the notes widget and scratchpad widgets are on your Home and save the customization
5. Reinstall Evernote on your iOS device, go to Home, and tap through the tool tips

I'll provide an update here once this issue has been fixed.

Let me know if you have any other questions!

 

Did that and still app freeze on home screen without widgets.

I'm tired of all those bugs and poor performance and not needed features (Evernote are you trying to beat Microsoft Word with all those features?!).

Since new version evernote is not any more useful for me. I'm moving to NOTION after 10 years with evernote and many months of waiting for Evernote to fix new app quality problems.