tony10000

What about Google Keep? 

I used to use it but found the web version somewhat unreliable and there is no offline version. 

It is integrated into Gmail and Google Docs which is nice.

1 minute ago, eric99 said:

If this forum keeps spreading nothing but this kind of messages and negativity, it will be a self fulling prophecy for sure...

I am just waiting for Evernote to throw us a bone.  They have been very tight-lipped lately about the new release, stability issues, and missing features.

10 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

... and maybe a big stone falls from the sky, right on their heads !

Then maybe there is something to worry about for me.

Maybe the stone does not fall on them, but on me ...

Then I need not worry any more - and I will regret every second spend worrying instead of living !

 

P.S. A few month ago, the forum was full of doubts "EN does not innovate, they will fold". Now it is "Whoops, they released, and I don't like it, so they will drown". Let me assume that next year, we will have another crisis, and another, and ...

At least they are privately hold and not forced to live by quarterly reports to the vultures.

It is funded by VC...and VC firms look for profits.  If profits aren't there, the funding disappears.  Looks like they are currently debt funded: https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/42706-63#overview

1 minute ago, DTLow said:

So, someday in the future I will be "forced to make a decision"   
I expect by then the Evernote v10 will be completed, and will be an option

That will only happen if the company is still in existence.  Given what I read in their Wiki, I am wondering if they can survive if they suffer a mass exodus of paying users. 

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evernote

That is why I am looking at other options.  YMMV...

3 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I am a user of the Evernote services, and really don't want to leave   
Still using the Legacy software   
I'm not "forced to make a difficult decision"

Yeah, but the legacy version is a dead end and who knows how long it will continue to work?

It is sad that we see so many people who are very loyal to the Evernote platform and really don't want to leave.  Yet, they are forced to make a difficult decision because the company is tone deaf to their needs and does not clearly communicate its intentions. 

As Evernote is privately owned and funded by VC, I fear for its survival.

It is a nice and very stable Framework that a lot of mature apps use.  For example, Scrivener is Qt.  Plus, a ton of other apps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software)

1 minute ago, egypturnash said:

Nimbus has a lot of features but it sure is failing the "aaargh I hate Electron apps and their utter disregard for normal conventions of OSX keyboard shortcuts" test for me, and that's one of the things that's making me look into switching.

It seems like the whole world is going Electron these days because it is multi-platform and web compliant.  I wish more folks would use Qt Framework.

2 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Mac and Window users are not stuck; Legacy version at https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314?fbclid=IwAR2TNqp-eGRH3Ds8Vfu-CiKPjYolJzZ_keR9eWQaDahJ2GN-7hwn595zI8w&__s=bsetfdgzirbvqtopurph

Yeah, but I found incompatibilities.  When the web switched over, I just got the spinning disc on the web and it locked up Chrome.  I could only fix it by upgrading the Windows version.  Other folks are having issues with the iOS version.  

1 minute ago, DTLow said:

I thought Evernote was very clear about redeveloping the product to use a common framework

That is fine, but sticking paying customer with an inferior, unstable, and unfinished product is not cool!

Why did the fix what wasn't broke?  Why give us a less feature rich alternative?  Why force folks to use it (web version)?

No answers from Evernote!

4 hours ago, hl3401 said:

I wish I knew how to go back to my earlier version. I naively updated today...what a mistake.

The legacy app is well hidden:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

Just now, davidtderrick said:

Plus most of the guys who do reviews don’t notice any of these bugs. They just rehash the press releases.

I thought they did extensive beta testing.

They should have never forced the rollout of the new version until it was functionally complete. 

They are trying to fix the plane while it is flying.  It is not working well for them.

I downloaded the Evernote Legacy version as well to get the deprecated and missing features and will keep using that as long as possible.  If they kick out that leg of the table, it may be game over for me. 

In the meantime, I am still looking for alternate solutions and workflows.

What a long, strange thread this has been!

VERY BAD!!!!!!!!!

29 minutes ago, s2sailor said:

At least on the Mac, click on Notebooks to get to the Notebook list.  Then in the ellipsis (more actions) menu there is an export notebook option.  I just tried that on one of my larger notebooks and it appears to have exported the full notebook.  I didn't confirm but the resulting file was quite large.

No export Notebook option on the Windows version.

When I click on the notebook, it only exports the top note.  When I select ALL, I get the 50 note selection limit.

The 50 note export limit in V10 Win coupled with the lack of HTML export tells me that Evernote wants a captive audience.  Not a good look!

There seem to be a lot of legitimate complaints that need to be addressed.

It would be nice to get a response from someone at Evernote.