biglarry5

You call it "negative Nancy stuff". Psychologists call it monomania or the idee fixe disorder.

If you have to ask, you'll never know. And, if your post is not trolling, then you don't know or are pretending not to know what trolling is.

You omitted the primary reason for my response - the fact that you wrongly called me a troll. How does that square with this site's avowed philosophy of keeping the dialogue nicey-nice? Secondly, there are tons of current and former Evernote users who feel the same way about the unprecedented trick Bending Spoons (BS for short) has pulled on them. You are bringing up unrelated material yourself because I never complained about Evernote the app but about its new ownership policies and inept marketing, affecting their bottom line and causing unnecessary annoyance with potential customers.

I haven't been to this site in years. I only came because of the new rules of the game - to get some info and express my complaints about the marketing incompetence of Bending Spoons even when I tried to sign up for a personal account. If that is trolling in your book, you need to look up the meaning of the word and stop sucking up to LVL 5's or the new ownership.

As someone that might be living in Italy based on your name, do you know anything about Bending Spoons affiliations with the new ultra-right government of Meloni? Such businesses are well-known for their maximize-the-profits-at-all-cost and scr.w-the-little-guy philosophy, which goes well beyond the regular capitalist doctrines and ends up actually hurting their bottom line or even leading to their demise. Proper balance or the golden mean in everything is the recipe for success, which was known as far back as Aristotle.

"Bottom line, you won't reach Evernote's decent, sensitive people, or their heartless bean-counters, here." But you will meet some heartless LVL 5 users who act like wannabe bean-counters with their hateful harangues about free users. They seem to model themselves on the charitable personality of Elon Musk.

Don't mention FREE anything because you will incur the group think wrath and contempt of this forum's LV 5's. I've tried Joplin and One Note, but they are not a viable option for replacing Evernote unless you use them for basic note-taking purposes. I like the phrase you used for Bending Spoons' unprecedented action: gross rug-pulling.

You failed to refute (because you couldn't) my chief initial arguments about Bending Spoons' non-transparency vis-a-vis notifying free users about upcoming changes and the company's insufficient preparedness to meet the probable onslaught of upgraders from America. Therefore, you switched to my less important point of free users, about whom you seem to have an obsessive hatred. At this point, I will observe Mark Twain's advice and curtail this pointless exchange: "Never argue with an unreasonable person because he will drag you down to his own level and beat you with experience."

In order to comment meaningfully on social media, one has to have some basic reading comprehension skills and knowledge of terminology. Free membership has been a feature online since the early days of the Internet and is still continuing, as I showed before with some examples. Once you register for an app, you are a subscriber even if you have a free account as long as you keep on using it unless the terms of use change. When Web companies ask you to upgrade, that are never saying, "Please become a subscriber" because you already are. They are asking you to pay for an increased number of benefits that come with a paid subscription. Very rarely do they severely curtail your app's functionality as a free user and almost never do they seriously jack up the prices for paid ones. NEVER do they make upgrades seriously inconvenient in the largest potential market in the world by not accepting a major credit card used in that market or (God forbid) listing the offer in the major currency of that country and the globe.

Mixing apples and oranges. Evernote is still good, but its new owners, Bending Spoons? Not so much. They have deprived (just guessing) hundreds of thousands of free subscribers around the world of a chance to continue being productive and even of a chance for many of them, like myself, to upgrade without jumping through hoops and wasting time.

If this forum's purpose is not for complaints about the management (among other things), then it is nothing but an autocratic device for protecting the management from customer dissatisfaction and free speech. It is particularly ironic that I'm getting this flak for complaining about an inability to help Bending Spoons' business by upgrading my account. A business that cares about potential customers and customer service would first apologize about the difficulties I incurred and would then try to find ways and offer suggestions to surmount them instead of playing a blame game and defending the rigidity of its subscription system.

The management/marketing incompetence saga continues. After I wrote the above comment, I received a notification/offer to subscribe with a 40% off. I thought that was an acceptable price, so I whipped out my Discover card (a ubiquitous credit card in America) and filled out the subscription form. Imagine my surprise, disappointment, and anger when I found out accidentally at the end of the process that my Discover is not "supported in this country" even though it was shown among the cards on that page and even though I clicked on United States as my country. What happened was that the default subscription screen position was hiding a message on the top of the screen saying that Discover is unsupported instead of that message appearing around the area where my card number was entered. We're probably dealing with a reseller somewhere in Asia (still Indonesia?). How many ways does Bending Spoons have to prevent U.S. residents to subscribe?

Hello, Newman! You are talking out of your nether ***** in an unsuccessful attempt to be funny and maybe suck up to Evernote. Who knows, maybe you are an employee with a vested interest too. I've had free Spotify with stationary ads for 10 years now. I just renewed VIPRE security for two years for about 50 bucks. I've had free Microsoft Outlook email for about 30 years. My chief complaint about the new system is the fact that its introduction was not transparent enough, i.e., free customers were not informed adequately about the new rules by repeated notifications. Only a management that has something to hide or is incompetent would expect most free subscribers to waste time on this website, which apparently contained the info about the change. Only a management that is incompetent would offer me, who lives in the U.S., to upgrade by paying in Indonesian rupees and now in euros instead of American dollars. I was ready to upgrade until I saw the new subscription price (about $120 per year) - probably one of the highest prices of its kind in the Internet app world. Even if I eventually decide to upgrade, I won't even consider it until the offer is in USD.

My quote for the annual personal account was about $52.00, but it was given in Indonesian currency even though I live in Texas. I doubt that it applies to U.S. subscribers. This must be one of the least transparent and most disorganized changeovers in the Internet app history.

Why do you expect average Evernote users to spend their time on the discussion.evernote.com unless they are forced to do it by the company's failing to inform its subscribers about the vital changes well before they occur? I've been getting offers to upgrade to a paid account almost every day for quite a while now, but none of them contained any info as to why that might be beneficial for me in the light of the pending changes. Today, when I received the new change announcement, I was ready to upgrade, but the only option listed for me, who live in Texas, is to make a payment with Indonesian rupees. That doesn't change when I enter United States as the country of subscription. I doubt Indonesian currency will inspire the trust of many Texans or other potential American subscribers. If Evernote cares about their business, they should enable the USD option tout-suite.