4 hours ago, Kruger2147 said:

The title basically says it all. the default text is set to Sans Serif, size 16. I think it's too big, and I don't like the font. It would be great to be able to change the default font and text size for new notes. It would better accommodate personal preference of the user and differences in how monitors display text.

I agree completely that the user should be able to set a default font size. Only for the opposite reason - I think 16 pt is too small 😏. So far there aren't any user settings in the current web beta, so lets hope when they appear font size is one of them.

As has been pointed out, you can change the apparent font size using the browser,  but I really want this setting for iOS which has always been plagued with a too small default font.

The actual question asked was "What are your favorite apps for taking notes?", which would surely mean different things to different people. Does it mean literally typing notes? Then an app like iA Writer would be best, it looks great and is a pleasure to use. But it isn't much good at organizing notes, or capturing images or receiving email. If you mostly want to type notes, but also store images and documents, then maybe Bear is best. But it doesn't do everything Evernote does. Maybe you mostly want to store and organize notes, in which case Evernote is best, though the note editor isn't so hot.. anyway, a poll like this doesn't mean much as we all have different ideas as to what is "best".

Though everyone here must find some use for Evernote, else we wouldn't be here..

14 hours ago, DTLow said:

Still not much interest (49) votes for fonts in notes. I think it's more a concern in word  processing

IOS has a small/medium/large selection; also colours

 

Not many votes in this forum.. but this forum is tiny compared to the number of active Evernote users, so I'm not so sure you can conclude much about the popularity of a larger font option from this.

The problem with Small/Medium/Large is that if you prefer Medium, you have to change the setting for every single note. There is no way to make Medium or Large the default. Plus, if you change the font size of a note, and edit the note on both iOS and MacOS, you will invariably end up with a mix of font sizes in your note.

Hopefully the "new" editor will fix the font consistency issue. The web beta does allow you  to set the font size, so this should appear on iOS. Setting a default font size is not in the current web beta, hopefully it will find its way there eventually.

Isn't the reason no one has heard back about the beta program, that there are no betas to test yet? I thought the videos made this clear. The only beta available right now is what Ian Small called the "modern web experience", which seems to be randomly available to more and more people. But it doesn't even seem to have a way to report bugs, so it doesn't seem like a formal beta (maybe I'm wrong about this - I applied for the beta program, and some weeks later the modern web experience became available to me, but no notification that I was now a beta tester).

I'm only talking about the "new" Evernote. There is still an active beta program for existing releases - betas for upgrades to the current iOS version still happen.

Well it is a Beta, so I expect bugs. And actually, you don't need to go to Settings, you can switch versions from the main window in the lower right corner.

But I also expected a more direct way to report problems to the developers. Hopefully they are reading this forum.

Using the new Evernote web beta, I got the message:

"This webpage is using significant energy. Closing it may improve the responsiveness of your mac”

This is using the latest version of Safari on an iMac using the latest version of MacOS.

10 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Hi.  This might be an option - https://discussion.evernote.com/forum/235-web-client/

Web Client

 

Community-based help for Evernote Web. Running into trouble or have a how-to question? Post it here.

Thanks. People do seem to be posting web beta issues there.

For anyone using the new Evernote Web Beta - how do you report a bug? 

There is a menu to "Provide Feedback", but it is a survey, not a place to report issues.

Or maybe I'm missing something obvious..

A contrary view: the link feature, which I believe is Apple code, not Evernotes, doesn't work very well. I would constantly have problems with text containing numbers, like blood pressure readings, being flagged as a phone number. And dates also were highlighted, which I personally see no use for. Part of the problem is that the highlight of a link is bright blue, so these kinds of errors really stand out (the same error shows up in Notes, but they use a more subtle dark underline). So I am glad this "feature" is no longer turned on.

Since we users disagree on this, hopefully when highlighted links return, it will be a user defined option.

The "Evernote Web Beta" isn't really new, and everyone has access. I think it was released almost a year ago.

The new Beta is invitation only. That is the one with the tool bar that starts with "Normal Text" and "Sans Serif" and has the button in the lower right corner. This is what is featured in the videos we are all chattering about.

Things are a bit confusing with two "betas" on the web.

17 hours ago, DTLow said:

I can use Evernote Web on my iPad (IOS12)

The UI suffers a little because of the smaller screen, but it is functional

I'm curious about this.. I'm now using the iOS 13 beta on my iPad. Using the "old" Evernote Web, I can't scroll past the length of the screen. Using the "new" Evernote web, things appear to be fine, but trying to edit is difficult at best, as I can't easily tap to place the cursor, which when it does appear, jumps around on its own. I don't have the new beta being talked about in the videos. So I'm curious which version you are having success with? Maybe iOS 13 broke it..

The small default font on iOS has long been my biggest frustration too. I'm hoping the "new" Evernote - featured in the videos - will allow more font control, but from what they showed, it looks like font and size still can't be set ☹️

53 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

We all (iOS users) hope that there will be a new client to make use of the power of iPadOS when released

Isn't Safari on iOS 13 supposed to be a "desktop" browser - which would seem to mean that using Evernote Web on an iPad would work just fine. So maybe iPadOS can be the lowest priority of the various platforms.. 

Unfortunately, I didn't think to check this forum before downloading the iOS 13 public beta to my iPad..

I'm running the latest Evernote beta, and it seems to work as long as you don't touch a note - that makes it crash. So Evernote beta does NOT work yet, though you can at least see your notes 😏.

5 minutes ago, emmgee said:

Nothing innovative is going on at Evernote.  Six months after the new CEO arrived and told everyone that brighter days are ahead – nothing. 

Not sure this is a fair characterization. It is true that new stuff hasn't been released yet, but if you have seen for instance the video on redesigning the editor, it does appear that big changes are being worked on. Hopefully this stuff will see a release to the real world soon. 

Is anyone actually using the web beta yet? I haven't seen any feedback about it. Or maybe participants aren't allowed to post about it?

15 hours ago, JMichaelTX said:

Hey guys, if this is on an iOS device, then this feature is NOT provided by Evernote. It is provided by Apple in all iOS apps.

To confirm, try typing the same thing in the Apple iOS Notes app.

Well, Apple provides the ability to access this "feature", but plenty of apps, including many text editors, don't use it. So responsibility is on Evernote if it doesn't function properly since they choose to use it anyway.

I assume you are talking about iOS, where a "feature" of Evernote is to turn dates and strings of numbers into clickable objects. But it doesn't work very well - as you can see below. This shows a snippet from a log I keep of my BP and HR, and Evernote thinks the date and first half of my BP are a phone number.

I believe Evernote is using iOS to figure out what to turn into a link. But there are plenty of iOS text editors that do not do this, so it could be turned off, but Evernote doesn't choose to do that, or allow the user to specify not to do this.

It seems to me there are 3 things wrong here - its guess as to what is a phone number is wrong, it colors the not-phone number bright blue making a page full of not-numbers quite ugly, and since this is inside a code block, I would think all formatting would be turned off anyway.

I'll make one comment here - I left Evernote a couple of years ago for Bear for day to day note taking. But I didn't abandon Evernote completely, I use it as sort of an archive for notes I don't need access to very often. This keeps Bear more manageable, and lets me keep an eye on Evernote development. And I must say that the new management seems to be doing all the right things. And I realize we have had promises from new management before that didn't turn out so well 

So assuming you like a lot of things about Evernote, I would suggest keeping your options open. Even with a Basic account you can keep your current data, there is no need to delete everything after exporting to another app. 

43 minutes ago, jefito said:

Citation for this? They're currently using CEF for the editor engine in current applications, as far as I know; certainly for the Windows product.

Nothing to cite.. I said we don't know what technology they are using, but as many other posters have speculated, it appears to be web based (so one code base works everywhere) and Electron is used by a number of existing apps as a way to accomplish this. This thread is based entirely on speculation, maybe I should have been clearer. We won't know for sure until Evernote tells us.

(Maybe people can vent here instead of filling up the comments about a search video with worry about Evernote's direction)

First, Evernote has announced some goals, but not exactly how they are going to get there. And they have released a Windows only beta of the new technology, which I haven't seen, not being a Windows user. There is also a new Evernote Web, but I don't know if that is using the same new technology that the Windows beta is using.

And we don't know what the "new" technology is, though it appears to be Electron, or something similar that allows multiplatform development using web based tools. There are pros and cons to Electron if you search the web. There are a number of apps that use Electron, the two I'm familiar with are Notion and Simplenote. Notion is no speed demon, but Simplenote is. Notion doesn't work offline so well, but Simplenote does.

For me, while things are in beta, I'm not going to get too excited. I really think it is important for Evernote to unify their various platforms, so I'm hoping the new strategy and tech work out. It all depends on the implementation. But we can't judge the full implementation until we see it. Missing features in a beta doesn't mean they will never show up. 

3 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

The Evernote editor is following the OSes abilities. 

On the Mac, it „borrows“ the font-management from MacOS. This is not a property of Evernote.

With iOS, my iAwriter has exactly the same font editing ability as Evernote: Small, medium, large, and that is it.

Only apps that bring their own fonts along like Pages or Word offer more control.

As long as iOS is Running without an own font module, I doubt that typical apps will start to offer this as a feature. The unevenness of the look of notes in Evernote-iOS is probably a side effect of fonts carried over from the MacOS or even Windows- world. Heavy editing there may have side effects in the iOS client. This is not good, but I think there are many other things to straighten before this one.

I don't really understand what you are saying.. that iOS limits the font sizes that can be used to three? Take a look at 1Writer on iOS, very similar to iA Writer, but lets you set the font and size. Or closer to Evernote, look at Bear or Agenda, which allow you to set either or both the font and font size.

In fact, iOS includes a mechanism to set font size for apps - Dynamic Type, which you can set in iOS Settings. Many iOS apps honor the type size set there. But Evernote doesn't.

As for font consistency and control not being important, well to each his own. One of the primary reasons I use Bear now is because of this issue.

18 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

This is similar with markup-editors (in my case iAwriter), that have the same choice of s/m/l without any font picking. The font will be added by the properties of the web site the text is embedded into.

IMHO this is nothing to blame Evernote for anything, and it is nothing to complain about. EN is a note taking tool, not a full fledged editor, and this it does. It does not have to look the same between operating systems and devices, because it was not built to look the same. This even makes it easier to move notes around between clients and devices, because it will always flexibly adapt to the new environment.

if I want to create a document with more formatting control, I export the plain text to pages (or word, or ...), and format it there.

I want Evernote to act like iA Writer - a note, and its font - looks the same on any platform. Using the Evernote defaults, this is not the case. And if you change fonts - font size on iOS, size and font on MacOS - you get all kinds of weirdness when moving across platforms. Not to mention that the tools for controlling fonts are different on different platforms, not because of platform requirements, but because different coders and different code bases resulted in different capabilities.

As to the idea that Evernote is only for "note taking" or "simple" notes, I've never understood why people say this, except as an excuse for the poor editor. Evernote gives you a whole toolbar full of formatting tools - bullets, italics, bold, etc. This clearly implies more than the simple capabilities of say Simplenote or other simple text editors. I wouldn't write a book using Evernote (though I'm sure someone has), but I expect to write a decent looking document, and for it to look the same on my iPad and my Mac.

My hope is that the rumored current development towards a common code base across platforms will resolve most of these issues. The same fonts available on different platforms, and the same methods for controlling those fonts.

On 2/11/2019 at 7:37 AM, gazumped said:

Evernote user count: 225M+

Votes for this thread....  33

Just sayin'

I'm going to try hard to not turn this into a personal attack, but..

Why in the world would someone post this? This is a forum for requesting features. Someone requested a feature, and you feel you need to post something discouraging about their request? What does this mean - its a poor idea, because there haven't been many requests? You don't agree with the need, even though you apparently don't use iOS?

If you really think there are 225M currently active users, ALL requests in this forum are going to be from a very tiny percentage of users. If someone makes a feature request you don't agree with, or you think will never be implemented, why comment at all? Seems to me any feature requests should be welcomed.

And yes, I agree completely with this request - the tiny default font on iOS is a pain.

2 hours ago, DTLow said:

These are features I use the service for, and Evernote continues to work well for me with 12GB of documents sync'd between a Mac and iPad.

You mentioned "Bear is very close to Evernote"; I'm not seeing that.  
Bear seems more focused on the editor features, compared to Evernote's focus on filing features.  
Evernote does supply a basic editor, and it''s good for basic notes in enml/html format.

Depends on what you mean by "close". I agree Bear is focused on the editor, which Evernote certainly isn't. But Bear works just fine for filing features - you can drag a .pdf file or text note or any other document in or out of a Bear note, just like with Evernote. Everything is stored in a database, just like Evernote. So for many people, Bear can be a direct replacement for Evernote, only with a good text editor. Its not that Bear is EXACTLY like Evernote, it doesn't have every Evernote feature (nor is the reverse true), but for many users it will work just fine in place of Evernote.