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They (Evernote) are in business, correct? Customers do matter, I hope. In the traditional American business model, the company providing the best product, service, etc. prevails over time. The trail is littered with the carcasses of dead corporations. A quick Google survey reveals the level of discontent with Evernote unresponsiveness to customer needs. Yes, many customers still sing the the Evernote paean, but often with an "if only Evernote would listen and provide us with sorting." after their praise.

Spot on. The implementation of a new editor would be precisely the opportunity to add new or even ancient capabilities that are much requested. Sorry for recent lashings out, but the lag over adding one of the oldest file/list features is incredibly frustrating. Of course there are workarounds. One could always throw away the computer and use 3x5 cards in place of Evernote, but in the absence of a post-apocalyptic dystopia, why?

Exactly.

Apologies for the Android aberration.

Fine, always glad to help. Since I am not psychic, however, send me a copy of the code, Einstein. Besides, is it the responsibility of users to do the jobs of corporate programmers gratis? Not a very effective capitalist model, I should think. Sorry to repeat myself, but, "This ain't no way to run a business, Homer," Totochto...

Fine, always glad to help. Since I am not psychic, however, send me a copy of the code, Einstein. Besides, is it the responsibility of users to do the jobs of corporate programmers gratis? Not a very effective capitalist model, I should think. Sorry to repeat myself, but, "This ain't no way to run a business, Homer," Totochto...

"This ain't no way to run a business, you know, Len." -The Sins, Episode 5, "Greed", British TV Series, November 21, 2000. By ignoring repeated, reasonable customer requests, I mean. Totochto...

"In this chapter we shall study a topic that arises frequently in programming: the rearrangement of items into ascending or descending order. Imagine how hard it would be to use a dictionary if its words were not alphabetized! We will see that, in a similar way, the order in which items are stored in computer memory often has a profound influence on the speed and simplicity of algorithms that manipulate those items." Donald E. Knuth, The Art of Computer Programming, Vol. 3, Sorting and Searching I was required to read this when I studied CS @ UCSB. of course we programmed in logical languages, apparently the Evernote crowd must use Brainf***k, making basic programming and algorithm adjustment next to impossible. Oh yes, we used modular programming and OOP (not to be confused with Oops! ) techniques as well, not just willy nilly cut and paste. End of Sarcasm Section >>>>>> To be expected when reasonable requests are met with disdain and a dismissive, (apparently undeserved) superior attitude. Totochto...

OneNote doesn't do Linux either. But the handwriting part is much easier and better than Evernote's. That's what I need for classes, since I have a disability that requires use of a tablet for note taking. (Wake up, EN. Sorting is a must for many of us. Not so much in need of sarcasm.)

OneNote (free now for Windows, Mac, Android, iOS, web) It sorts. Does handwritten notes really well even with active styli. Bye, Evernote. It was fun while it lasted.

Yeah, that's true. If and when this feature is ever implemented, since EN corp. tends to be Mac-centric, the rest of us (the majority) will then have to wait another year to enjoy access to it.

Sorry to say, but Evernote may have already missed the boat on this one, folks. Try Trello - more advanced list handling than EN, including internal alphabetical list sorting. The paradigm used is different; it is a graphically-oriented system, using 'cards'. But it's flexible and the list-handling capabilities are far more sophisticated than EN. If what you want is sorted lists, they have it and more. I am still using EN as well for the time being because I am set up there and still learning the new system. Trello is great for organizing projects. Sitting on this list sorting request is not a good idea, guys. The world doesn't wait. (awaiting flames)

JMichael, Glad you said it, brother. I think It could even be accomplished just using the provided developer tools from EN and the API. Searching and sorting are like CS 102.

Hence, Evangelist: a person marked by extreme enthusiasm for or support of any cause (context, pejorative) an unquestioning religious fanatic Source: Allwords.com Operating word - fanatic.

No dashed expectations here. Pardon the cynicism. Glad there are open ears & minds there to help. Thanks.

A Modest Proposal (for Accomplishing Note Line Sorting with Evernote) 1) Print out the note to be sorted on any common electronic printer. 2) Copy the contents of the note to a sheet of fine vellum with a hand-plucked goose quill pen in actual ninth-century ink by hand in fine calligraphy. Be sure to scribe by hand on the sheet of vellum, an exquisite illustration in the style of The Book of Kells. 3) Write another note to accompany the original note in step (2), requesting the finder of this note package to sort the lines of the note in step (2) using an alpha-numeric sort algorithm by hand. Then indicate the finder should scribe the sorted list on another sheet of fine vellum, as indicated in step (2). In closing this note explain how the finder should follow the bottle procedure outlined below, enclosing all notes, including the sorted version, also finely hand-illustrated. 4) Place all notes in a hand-blown brown glass bottle, sealed securely with cork, wax and string. 5) Travel to the coast of France, along the English Channel by sailing ship. 6) Set the sealed glass bottle in step (4) adrift in the ocean water, taking into account the current circulation contingencies. 7) Pray in Medieval Ecclesiastical Latin that the liberated bottle reaches the coast of Ireland, where a visiting scholar from Trinity College, Dublin, will, while frolicking in the cold surf, notice the floating bottle and open it. 8) Also pray that visiting scholar is, as a hobby, trained in medieval monastic calligraphy, and that he will follow your bottled directions to the letter. 9) Request that that the scholar, upon completion of his sorting and illustration tasks, take all the documents to the nearest FedEx Office, have them scanned to a 16GB USB flash drive and delivered to the Evernote Offices, where the sorted note image can be posted to your Evernote account. 10) Upon receipt of the sorted note image, hand-copy the text into Notepad and save it and transfer it to your Evernote account. 11) Or hope that Evernote responds to the frequent user request to implement line sorting in Evernote. Since I expect some moderator, evangelist or whatever to miss the satirical approach here - it is still sarcasm – and pontificate endlessly and hostilely, I include this addendum. Credit Jonathan Swift (Gulliver's Travels) for his original essay with a similar title regarding English elimination of the “Irish Problem”. Though this is satire/sarcasm, the problem addressed is real – lack of response to serious user requests. Without Evernote users, we'd all be using Google Keep. (awaiting flame)

Oooww - touché. Ha ha ha..

As opposed to a specific generalization. Thanks for the clarification.

Ah yes, the clarion tone of monotonous mediocrity. The opposite of innovation in the (business) world of technology is not conservatism, it is stagnation. Perhaps if an automobile does not suit one, a horse-drawn cart would be better. After all, most people are probably not afraid of progress per se - such an abstract concept - rather of being left behind in the dung heap of history. But line sorting - seriously? So elegant, so basic, so handy (for some). When needed, I much prefer an alphabetized dictionary to a random word list. (Do I feel a flame approaching?) "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home." - Ken Olson, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC), "Think outside the box, collapse the box, and take a @#$%@#@ sharp knife to it." - Banksy, Wall and Piece "Innovation, being avant garde, is always polemic." - Ferran Adrià i Acosta

Ridiculous indeed. (Please save the unnecessary flames) On that subject - where can I get an unabridged unalphabetized copy of the Oxford English Dictionary. Of course, I forgot - just use other dictionaries until you find what you are seeking, then go through the whole unalphabetized OED to verify.

Ballard Jones - spot on, mate. Enjoyed the posts. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. totochto

I read the opinions here and respect the holders' rights to express them. But let's be clear "I am right because I am right" or "I am right because I am a self-proclaimed authority" aren't any kind of well-reasoned arguments worth reading. Appeal to authority is instead a fallacious argumentation technique. Anyway, I recall seeing line sorting implemented in the most rudimentary editors from the computing Stone Age, so it certainly isn't "rocket science" And Evernote is so much more than an editor. It is presented as the best thing since sliced bread by many "evangelists" - great. So live up to that. This a relatively minor addition with respect to recoding with great benefit to many users. Sorting is a topic first semester CS students cover in detail, so the professional developers on the Evernote team are not up to the challenge? Yes, this is a matter of priorities. The fact that many are so passionate about this addition speaks to its desirability and functionality for many, many of us. Of course, some of us Evernote users c-o-u-l-d spend months developing our own personal note-taking software, or developing scripting workarounds - but why should we? This excellent product is already here and we Premium users pay for the privilege of using it - and for suggesting new, useful features that the company who takes our money responds to. (I am a month-by-month Premium subscriber.) Just as some of us c-o-u-l-d build our own cars, rather than buying one, what would be the point unless that is our primary focus in life. I don't know what is most important to every Evernote user - except perhaps enhanced productivity - but I am willing to bet that re-inventing the wheel is not among our concerns. I c-o-u-l-d waste time pre-processing all my notes to adjust for an unfortunately omitted, easily-implemented feature of Evernote, but... wait that is what I do already. Maybe some of you are right - this will turn out NOT to be the choice for some of our note-taking needs. So look for the next greatest note app before you know it. (Are you listening, Google?) Is the American capitalist paradigm really dead? Like it or not, Computer Software Development is an often cut-throat business and innovation is the key to success - the roadway is littered with defunct companies for whom "good enough" was their motto. I would rather not see that happen here. Come on, get on the ball or lose the race. BTW, I would like to say that I appreciate the input and suggestions so the so-designated evangelists. As very long-term users of Evernote, you possess a long-range view of the development of EN that we newer users do not. I may not always agree with your positions on issues (I am a tad argumentative), but I take your input seriously and always pay attention to your contributions. The current issue here discussed - line sorting - is a case in point. Before any further griping on my part - thanks.

Point taken. Never had a green car though. But they are available for those who want them, eh?

Certainly, you're correct about being able to accomplish something as basic as sorting in another app, but if we're going to take a Luddite slant to improvement, why not shut down the power and get out a spiral-bound notepad and a number 2 pencil? I recall hearing the constant chanting of the GTD gurus with respect to EN - the fewer clicks the better. And having to constantly switch apps for trivially-implemented yet useful features is not only distracting, it is bad for business.Yes, each EN user probably does have some pet feature they would like implemented - and it can't all be done if we look at it reasonably. But they can be discussed nevertheless. Thanks for the spirited discussion. "Any customer can have a car painted in any color he wants so long as it is black" - Henry Ford, the American founder of the Ford Motor Company.

Evernote is a superior product and has literally changed my life, but are we asserting there is never room for improvement? Look, people, one of the oldest programming languages still in use is LISP, which is a LISt Processing language - nothing to do with word processing per se. One of it's powerful features is sorting. Sorting is not inherently a text-oriented activity. Sorting is done on lists, arrays, vectors and matrices of things that may contain text.. Since Evernote already supports lists (to-do lists et cetera), logically, sorting should be a basic feature. In fact, I am willing to bet that underneath the pretty Evernote interface, the raw code does a lot of sorting as it hums away doing our bidding. Not asking for the most efficient quantum sort here, just basic line sorting. I too, would not really want Evernote to become the Swiss Army knife of apps, trying to do everything, since it already does what it does so well. JMO. totochto.