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5 minutes ago, deman said:

 

 

This is great now very fast

 

Agreed. It is like night and day.

2 hours ago, Peter Olins said:

PLEASE will someone explain why they have a problem with EN 10 on an M1 mac! Pleas be specific, rather than just complaining.

I can share my personal frustration. Far too often, I am mid-thought when writing when I realize I need to see something in a note in a notebook already open on another monitor. I will click on the note to give it focus so I can scroll through the note. When I do not see a response, I click again (sometimes necessary when switching monitors). Usually, Evernote will later register both clicks then spawn a fullscreen window of the note, taking several seconds to render and being completely unresponsive until it finishes rendering. By then I have forgotten what I was trying to do in the first place. I will press CMD-W to get rid of the window I never wanted, go back to the document I was writing, re-orient myself, then go back to Evernote. I find it frustrating.

1 hour ago, Reaz said:

As a paid user of Evernote, I am extremely disappointed that in the last 20 months, Evernote has been unable to port the code to work on Apple Silicon machines. Can anyone recommend good tool for exporting all of my content from Evernote to another platform where I can retain the format rather than exporting everything as a PDF? I have been so disappointed with the poor advances in the user interface and this is the last straw. I'm done with Evernote. 

Everything PinkElephant said, plus be very careful that the new environment can handle the load if you have a larger database. I attempted a switch to Apple Notes last year, summarized here:

https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/113738-note-size-limit-increase/?do=findComment&comment=627412

On 2/2/2022 at 5:29 PM, PinkElephant said:

If it is "native" or not - who cares if it works ?

That's a fair question. For me, it is too slow under certain circumstances, enough that it disrupts my flow and thought processes. I upgraded this MacBook Pro partly to improve the speed of Evernote. It is better on M1 Pro but not better enough, in my opinion.

6 hours ago, town said:

Slightly off topic but related.  Bought a new MBP M1 Max for my wife (work computer). No migration assistant but fresh install of apps including EN. She has thousands of notes and attachments.  Worked fine and somewhat snappy for the first day or two but now having trouble waking/signing in in the morning where the mac seems to freeze and EN unresponsive and taking up tons of CPU.  

I'm new to EN and how it's structured. With a fresh install of EN and logging in, does it copy down every note... to populate a local database or only when a note is accessed?  If it does replicate a local database, will it continue to do this while the mac is in sleep mode?  I guess what I'm getting at is if EN being unresponsive as well as sluggish be the non-native M1 issue or a combo of that as well as it continuing to try to replicate the database?

Would a better approach have been to try to manually migrate the database from the old mac to new? 

Mac EN hosts a local copy of the database. A fresh install induces a complete download that can take many days to complete. Consider letting it stay powered up and connected continuously, including overnight, until the sync completes.

1 minute ago, gazumped said:

This thread has been quiet for four months and has a grand total of 4 votes in favour,  so it doesn't look like a high-profile issue that Evernote might think requires immediate action. 

If you check the posts above,  we all understand full well that the date of a note defaults to the date on which it was created,  which seems like a sensible option.  It is the 'created date' of the note and does exactly what it says on the can.  If you wish to show the document date - the actual date of meetings,  emails etc - then the sensible (i.e. faster and more accurate) option is to add a date as a tag or a title.  Even in Legacy changing a document date requires some messing around.  Evernote probably will restore the ability to change creation dates on a timescale of their own,  but if you need that option - find a work-around or a different application;  because I don't see the process being available soon.

We agree that this feature will not bubble to the top of EN’s priority list for a while, if ever. The workaround you propose certainly works for greenfield (new) notes and notebooks. As HSM notes, the workaround does not work well for brownfield (existing) notes and notebooks. In the end, this missing feature is one more reason that iPad EN cannot replace desktop EN yet.

I also see this as a critical feature. I use the create date to refer to the date the content was created and sort accordingly. That works well for the desktop version. Others seem to use create date to refer to the date the note was created in Evernote, regardless of the date of the content in that note. This works well when the note content is entered into Evernote at the same time the content is created. Evernote iOS assumes that all content is entered into Evernote at the time of creation.

When the note is entered into Evernote on a date other than when the content is created (for whatever reason), then this assumption falls apart. I have zero interest in tracking when the content was entered into Evernote. I have much more internet in tracking when the content was created, whether or not it was entered into Evernote on that date.

Apple switches architectures every 15 years or so. Perhaps EN decided to skip ARM and instead prepare for the next architecture switch in 2035?

Tonight I retired a 2018 Intel i5 MacBook Pro, replacing it with a 2021 M1 Pro MacBook Pro. A large driver for the purchase was the hope of improved EN performance. I should have checked here before I made the plunge, but now I am here. The EN database is downloading and likely will continue downloading for the next several days. It is disappointing to learn that EN still is not native to the new MacBook architecture. By new I mean more than a year old.

I know this has been discussed before, but after fully downloading my database a few months ago, I noticed it has come out of sync — see photo. I let it run for a bit in the foreground, but it was only managing some 145 kb/s — see photo. Is this normal? Is it OK?

I know some people have some responses prepared, so let me save some bandwidth by addressing those preemptively. See below expected responses and my response to those responses.

1. The storage is full
   1. Nope. See attached photo clearly showing 500+ GB available.
2. You have a slow connection
   1. Nope. See attached speed test I just ran.
3. You have a slow iPad
   1. Nope. See attached photo identifying this as an M1 iPad Pro.
4. You shouldn’t download your notebooks (it is a waste; no one needs to do that; you have better uses for your storage; etc.)
   1. Maybe or maybe not, but this is a philosophical discussion that probably has nothing at all to do with download speed.

Does anyone know what causes slow download speed?

In case it helps the next person, I spent a week experimenting with importing Evernote (EN) notes to Apple Notes (AN) then aborted that effort last night after talking to Apple support. AN has several serious flaws to keep in mind when considering a migration:

• AN will silently drop attachments and features it does not support
  • This is terrifying
• AN will not let you know if / when it finishes synchronizing
  • I let one set of imports settle over the weekend but my five Notes instances (iCloud, personal MacBook Pro, work MacBook Pro, iPhone, iPad) never agreed on note counts and content
  • This is also terrifying
• AN is terribly sluggish when loaded
  • After loading 20 GB of the 160 GB database, AN was borderline unusable
• AN logs (from Notes app and cloudd process) never did quiesce after days of synchronizing, continuing to report errors and warnings
  • This is also terrifying
• AN has zero facility for redating notes
  • Occasionally I change the creation date of Notes in EN and this is a critical capability for me
• AN has no meaningful way to export notes
  • This makes the migration to AN a one-way trip with no escape hatch

In the end, my fear of AN lack of integrity trumped my reasons for migrating to AN.

BIG REASONS TO MIGRATE AWAY FROM EN

• EN has note size limits that I regularly bump up against
  • This is still an issue but perhaps may change soon
• I am reluctant to install EN on my work laptop because I do not want my personal information swept by a corporate backup or monitoring process
  • If EN had encryption at rest then this would not apply

SMALL REASONS TO MIGRATE AWAY FROM EN

• Premium EN costs $
  • Still true, but in the grand scheme of things this is just a few dollars per month
• EN is getting sluggish-ish
  • But AN is worse at scale

For me, the big reasons to migrate are not big enough to overcome the fear of notes losing integrity in AN.

Cheers, Marty

1 minute ago, PinkElephant said:

I just dislike my files being read - even if it only serves „to know me better“.

Agreed. This is yet another reason for EN to implement encryption at rest.

2 minutes ago, keruchan said:

Being in partnership with google  EN doesn't want to enter that area. .. If you know what I mean. 

I would actually prefer that EN said, “Our magic is in the note app, not the storage” then allow me to choose whatever backend storage I prefer, e.g. iCloud. I would pay the same or even more for the software, despite having storage costs on top of the software costs.

4 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

How much more are you willing to pay ?

This issue is near and dear to my heart. Because of this and other limitations, as an experiment, I am trying to move my entire database to Apple Notes. It is not going very well. I would be willing to pay more, perhaps even double, to overcome this and other limits.

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You can very easily avoid the upload limit by using a cloud storage build for large files, and embed a link to the file into the note.

I have heard this approach before. I want my notes to be a fully contained archive without external dependencies. Those items on which the note depends may or many not exist when I want to read the note. Evernote’s concept is perfect for storing this type of data.

We are clearly not communicating well. EN does tell users what to do, but those instructions depend on certain iOS security features not being used. When those iOS security features are used (as in my case), the EN instructions do not work. iOS has a feature to accommodate this situation. I suggested that the EN app take advantage of those features.

Nowhere do I suggest that this happen without user acknowledgement or that anyone should be surprised.

4 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

As an app developer that does NOT want to have his app removed from the AppStore I would totally comply with Apple rules in this case.

Agreed. The rules specifically allow for keeping the app in the foreground. When sync is complete, the EN app could set this back to false. This should be false by default, only enabled when the user requests offline download.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiapplication/1623070-isidletimerdisabled

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About documentation: Support describes what has to be done. The description in the help pages is not very helpful, EN needs to revise it.

Support describes what has to be done but that solution assumes the presence of certain capabilities that might be absent.

I have learned a little more. First, any app can disable the screen lock with the following configuration item. It seems that this is the method used by video players, maps, and stopwatches to keep the screen lit.

UIApplication.shared.isIdleTimerDisabled = true

Second, by using Guided Access, the iPad can be locked to running a single app with an override for screen timeout. I am currently running Evernote in the foreground using this approach.

In my opinion, if EN needs screen auto lock to be disabled, the EN app should provide that capability.

2 hours ago, Stacey said:

• Open iOS Settings > Display and Brightness > Auto-Lock > press Never

When I joined my current company and installed Outlook, the Never option was removed from auto lock settings. I think this is some security thing, since my iPad now insists that I change the PIN regularly too. I am unclear how to get around this limitation.

Thanks for the suggestions. I struggle with the answer that this is an iOS limitation and not an EN limitation, since somehow Outlook seems to work in the background as do Notes and Reminders. Even when in the foreground, the EN app downloads at a glacial rate. I am currently seeing a 0.5 mbps download rate on a 1200 mbps connection.

I cannot set my auto lock time to never, but I can have the tablet open in front of me while working on the Mac. Maybe I can just let it grind away when I am not using it today and it will hopefully catch up.

I know this has been an issue before but it is still a problem with a new M1 iPad Pro. I am now in day five of using the new tablet and Evernote still has not downloaded offline notebooks. This is running iPadOS 14.6 and Evernote 10.11. Attached is an example of the download status for a few notebooks showing that downloads have a long way to go.

The responses in the past to offline download problems include:

• You do not have enough storage
  • Incorrect: see second attachment of the current state of iPad storage; there is plenty of free space
• Leave the iPad on all night with Evernote in the foreground
  • I have a limitation whereby I can only leave the screen on for up to five minutes; see the third attachment for my screen locking options.
• You don’t need offline notebooks
  • Maybe, but that is an option and it seems to be not working

 Has anyone figured out how to get the offline downloads to complete?

Many thanks, Marty

I have used Evernote for about a decade and love it but have found myself using Evernote primarily on an iPad Pro and my work laptop via Evernote Web. My personal machine has desktop Evernote and is generally powered down all week but then powered up on the weekend for schoolwork. As a result, I rarely use the desktop client throughout the work week.

Sometimes I will find that I need to do something and cannot figure out the solution, such as a rename a scanned document file name sent to Evernote from a Raven scanner. I could not figure out how to rename it with the web app nor the iPad app. I opened a support ticket asking for guidance. The answer was, “Use the desktop app.” I have had several questions that were answered in a similar way.

I am wondering if I am the only Evernote user that rarely uses the desktop app. Does anyone else here use Evernote regularly without resorting to the desktop app? Is it possible to survive without desktop Evernote?

6 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

It still is a note app and not a cloud storage. One needs to remember that EN only charges for upload, not for storing. They need to limit somehow the size of the data hoard on their servers - or change their business model to charging an (additional) fee for online storage, which I (and probably many more users) would regret.

For large projects, you can use any cloud service, place your project there, create a link and paste it into your EN note as a link. When you share the note, the link is shared, and depending on how you set it up, the recipient can open and contribute to the project.

I think we agree that some boundaries should exist around what and how much is stored in Evernote. We probably disagree on where those boundaries should be.

Support kindly reminded me that I had a 200 MB limit. I notified that I was seeing the error on an 80.1 MB note while trying to enter text. Support then asked for a screen recording showing the error, which I supplied.

I discovered that I was able to finish editing the note by editing it on the iPhone, which was a tremendous pain, but at least it is done.

It will be interesting to see what Support says.

Starting this morning Evernote on iPad is unusable. While I was writing a note, a pop up told me that I had reached the limit for my plan. I have uploaded 480 MB of 10 GB, so that is hard to believe. I opened support request 3293950 because it was not allowing me to attach files to a note.

I tried to work through it, suffering from regular pop ups every few seconds as I typed. Then I learned that my typing was not saved into the note. Evernote is now effectively unusable. I opened support request 3293961.

I need to trust a note taking tool. This has seriously eroded my trust in Evernote’s availability.

Woohoo! I came here looking for help with filenames being truncated when files are shared via the share sheet in 10.6. I noticed there is an update to 10.7 so I installed it and tested sharing a file. The filenames no longer appear to be truncated.

Thank you.

Now, if I could just figure out how to update a file name. Let me give you an example of why that is helpful:

1. With an iOS app, open a document (such as a credit card statement) that I want to put into Evernote.
2. The app names the March 2021 statement PDF with a name similar to 249b3802-91c8-11eb-a8b3-0242ac130003.pdf
3. I want to put that in Evernote, but the name is useless both for the note and the file (in case I need to download the file later).
4. If I share the file into Evernote, I can certainly fix the title, but not the filename.

Thanks again for fixing the filename truncation,

Marty