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2 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

There is no valid reason to still use legacy. It is now deprecated for nearly 3 years. Using it after that time is plain inertia or procrastination.

I don’t say you have to use v10 - but there was ample time now to find ANY solution that works for you, and migrate.

Nobody should object when one fine day - boom - legacy is gone, and the frenzy starts.

This is exactly the attitude I was referring to. YOU have no valid reason to use Legacy. It is incredibly arrogant to claim that I do not have one. Let me give you a hint: Local Notebooks

And yes, there has been plenty of time, and I have been looking, for years. Tried quite a few alternatives. And I have not found anything that does for me what Legacy does.  So I am rolling my own, as much as I can.

I knew this day would come, I am not saying it is a surprise of any kind.

On 7/28/2023 at 4:16 PM, allendick said:

This could be a great resource. Problem is the same subtle bullies show up in every thread repeating the same propaganda and telling people what to think. 

I am sure this experience discourages people from posting or even reading here. I know I always eventually regret coming here.  It is a fan club and echo chamber that seeming provides entertainment for a number of perennial know-it-alls.  Granted these guys could be very useful if they stuck to technical info, but some cannot resist telling others what to think. 

I am gone now for good but have appreciated the constructive and on-topic posts that actually provided useful information and was entertained when a problematic upgrade burst into this thread illustrating exactly what I was addressing.

Sadly the same bad apples always eventually hijack and deprecate any thread I start. 

They must live under the bridge.  They are always here. 

I have to agree. Instead of help, there are so many instances of "you're using it wrong", or poo-pooing the very valid reasons that people have for preferring the Legacy version.

I just spent this weekend finishing up the program I wrote to export all my notes, in the way I want them, from the ENEX files. I wanted to get it done, since I do not trust Evernote to not cut me off at the knees and have Legacy stop working with no date specified (just screaming at me every day to upgrade). So I back up my notebooks daily to ENEX, so I don't lose my data. And the day it dies, I will go to plan B.

So sad, that after being a paid member since 2009, it has come to this. I have not found anything that replaces Evernote Legacy (and the new version is certainly not it). But at least my PDFs (99% of my 10K+ notes) are safe. With renewal in October, that was a hard date to get the program done, but with some of the more recent happenings, I had no assurance that Legacy would last even until then.

It was a fun ride, and I wish I could have stayed with Evernote, but when a company removes major functionality that people depend on, there's not much choice.

I heard the nag. Message received. I don't need it EVERY DAY! I have had plenty of software reach end of life over the 40 years I have been in the software business. Notification is fine. Nagging a few times after that is fine. Bombarding you every day with the message (which does not even say when it will actually stop working) is way over the top. If one of my guys suggested something like this for a product I worked on, I would kick their asses.

All is is doing is making me want to leave sooner (but since I pay yearly, they have my money already). But I am going to hold out until renewal time, unless they totally shut off this version.

I truly have trouble understanding how anyone could be defending this behavior, I really do.

On 6/19/2023 at 7:53 PM, agsteele said:

I guess the answer is switch to V10 and the nag will stop.

As I have said, that is not an option for me. If/when I have to upgrade, I will have to find another solution. But thanks.

I just don't understand thy they think that bugging me every day is going to make me more likely to switch. 

On 6/18/2023 at 4:07 AM, agsteele said:

However, there is no means to get rid of the nag screen. Legacy is on its way out. The current issues are partly due to trying to support two data structures. Evernote clearly needs Legacy users to make the switch.

If they need to, then kill it already and force the switch (or force some of us totally off).

But for the love of dog, stop the daily nag!

On 6/12/2023 at 9:24 AM, PinkElephant said:

You are never in danger of loosing anything. All content is saved on the server, readily accessible with v10.

Just take care of local notebooks, if any.

Yes, the local stuff.

12 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

Yes, just as a friendly reminder you are using unsupported software that has its days counted.

Could be you run some workflows important to you on this platform, and shouldn't procrastinate any longer with solving this problem. If not, just ignore it.

I'd be OK with a reminder once a week.  

Worst case, I wrote myself a custom utility to take the exported notes and save them all to disk, so I am not in any danger of losing my notes and PDFs. I am just tired of the daily reminders.

10 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

I think I'm the one who originally asked, out of curiosity, about the ongoing need for Legacy, so thanks. Hope you're able to develop a solution if Legacy goes away.

I hope so too, but I have not found anything that works as well as Evernote. It has been part of my workflow for so long, it is hard to move away.

And BTW, I am still constantly getting the damn popup to upgrade, every day.

On 5/29/2023 at 7:33 PM, CalS said:

The benefit of local notebooks for me was security.  I did not want confidential notes syncing to the cloud. I did however want to search local and synced notebooks in one place (EN) when on my PC.  I did not need to search local notebooks when on mobile.  So legacy EN local notebooks were a great fit for my use case.

Very much this. I use Evernote to keep together all my financial documents (mostly as PDFs). All of those are in a local notebook. Stuff that is not sensitive and/or that I may want on-the-go, will be in my sync'ed cloud notebook. I export and back up my local notebook regularly, since it is not being saved elsewhere.  And since I have been WFH since 1998, I rarely need access to my Evernote elsewhere.  

Back to the original topic, is there any way to disable the daily nags to upgrade? Because at some point, that will prompt me to leaving, since staying with no local notebooks is a non-starter for me. I know it is old, unsupported, blah, blah. I just don't want to be bugged to upgrade every day!

I am seeing the nag every day, it seems. I have not really  been looking at the new version features, being totally happy with the Legacy version. So I am not sure if my deal breakers were ever implemented.

The biggie was local notebooks, and removing those was a design decision to have everything on the cloud, so I assume those stull don't exist. For me, that is the key feature. Over a third of my notes are local, and I do not want them on the cloud.

The integration with my Fujitsu ScanSnap was also missing back then. That was a big annoyance, but one I could live without.

1 minute ago, gazumped said:

As far as I know 2) is already back,  3) has viable workarounds and 1) is never going to happen.  Your point being?

I thought my point was pretty clear. Without those things (and if #2 is back, I missed it), the new version is a non-starter for me. This is a thread on missing features, and I posted what I miss.

So with the new release, I was hoping to see if they had restored the three features that are a must have for me, given my work flow. A flow I have been using for years, based on what Evernote could do.

1) Local Notebooks

2) Import Folder

3) Integration with my Fujitsu ScanSnap

Sadly, I see none of the above. Are there new features that might be nice? Sure. But with the basic needs completely broken, it is pointless to look at the "good" stuff when the "bad" stuff has at least three deal breakers.

As long as Legacy is supported, I will stick with it. But I will be looking at alternatives if that changes.

1 minute ago, gazumped said:

There's more detail elsewhere on the forums, but I thought Joplin might have been a contender - optionally encrypted syncs to your Dropbox account.  But I tried it out and was not overly impressed with the reliability of the syncs.  Secure is good,  but Flaky secure is even more worrying than untrustworthy servers... 

It also does not show PDF previews, which makes it a non-starter.

I realize that. It is what made Evernote so useful. But I will go to folder and files before I put my private info on their cloud. I do not trust their security enough. Or anyone else's, for that matter. If they allowed me to encrypt notes (and not the 1/2 assed solution for text notes), then maybe. But not as it is now.

10 minutes ago, BobRed_0965 said:

Yeah, I get that.  But this  is a step back from the original feature set.  Local sync was a foundational feature, and the one that convinced me to go premium. This is like Ford giving me an "upgrade" to my car, replacing the tires with skis.  Sure, it goes fast on the snowy hills, but it won't go at all where I need it to go.

Exactly. Local sync, for items I do not want in the cloud, is the main reason I  stayed with Evernote for the last decade+. Without it, it becomes useless to me. About a third of my notes (over 2K of them) are local only.  I will stay with the Legacy as long as it is supported, since I do love Evernote. But I will not be able to upgrade ever, if local sync is not there. I will have to go with a totally different solution, even though my whole workflow revolves around Evernote.

I'm not sure what the people in charge were smoking when they decided on the feature set, but to say this new version is a disaster for me would be an understatement. No local notebooks is a killer, right there. And no import folders and breaking integration with my old ScanSnap? Those three things are the most used features for me. I have been using Evernote since 2009 (and paying since 2010), and this is a disaster of an upgrade. As much as I hate to do it, it is time to start looking at options.

I do have some questions. I installed the new version, but stopped it when it wanted to convert my local notebooks (there are reasons why they are local). I promptly uninstalled it again and reinstalled the Legacy version. Are there any other steps I need to do to clean up? There was some discussion earlier about the double storage used when running both versions, but I am not sure if uninstalling the new one clears that up.

As a software designer, it is blindingly obvious that you do not just remove major features like these. I can't imagine their thought process.