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On 4/29/2024 at 3:34 PM, Pavel Sapehin said:

 I've tried tables in Evernote, and they were terrible. I remember using them for temporarily calculations, but huge tables were unusable ...

You probably used Notion or some other app, EN never had this functionality.

so AI functionality now costs $40/year (there is little in Professional vs Personal beside this perk unless you really need to store more than 10gb of data)

Notion's AI addon is much more expensive: $96/year (granted, it's more powerful than what EN is offering)

7 hours ago, Colinz said:

I honestly feel that the Evernote product is being so heavily upgraded just because it can. Given the feedback here, I do not believe that the early users need or want these upgrades. Evernote is over-developing a perfectly flexible and workable product. But that's just my opinion.

yes, EN can do this. but so can you and any user in response to their decision, there is a big notetaking app market nowadays (i for one migrated to free Notion plan and downgraded to the EN free plan and i don't miss the paid plan)

2 hours ago, gazumped said:

You might want to feed back your situation to the support team - and please make sure you visit https://www.evernote.com/BillyBillingProfile.action (it's the 'Billing' page of your online account) and check out the very bottom of the page,  just above "Terms of Service".  Cancel your Evernote subscription' is there - choosing it will downgrade you to Free in 10 months time and avoid any future complaint about being automatically charged.

i sent that kind of feedback twice: once when i started contemplating leaving EN and again before downgrading to the free account (having migrated to Notion). not sure if anyone read it or cared. i got no reply.

12 hours ago, sleepy0004 said:

Does anyone know how I turn off prompt that appears evertime I click on a single web link in one of my notes

ie "You are leaving Evernote > Please press Continue to go to https"

I want to go straight to the web page I click on.

you can't turn it off, but if you right click on the link and choose "open in new tab" or "open in new window" (or Ctrl-click) it goes directly to that page.

12 minutes ago, ThomasCee said:

Oh I didn't realize this! All web based?

Gotcha, yeah for sure pass then.

Thank you 👊🏽

Notion has apps for win and mac. frankly, i tried the apps and saw no reason to use them instead of the browser version since the data is still not local. otherwise, Notion is fine for me (i migrated from EN after the price increase).

2 hours ago, ThomasCee said:

Notion I know has been all the rage lately, but my next computer will be Linux, and Joplin and Obsidian have Linux versions.

Notion has no offline mode, so the OS doesn't really matter.

i moved to Notion and canceled the renewal so i got put on the free plan and started receiving one year offers at 60% of the price (too late).

@fuchsfr RE your chart, are you sure Notion can't save searches?

It looks like EN has started copying Notion features (the smart slash e.g.) so perhaps links to sections of a note are also on the table.

15 hours ago, ferol said:

I don't use any of that.... so it's really individual. 

 

That's key. Each of us uses a subset of EN features and cares mainly about those. Sometimes a new feature comes in and we adopt or ignore it. For me, for example, the features I use to price ratio has become too low to continue with EN.

On 3/13/2024 at 11:44 AM, Grant837 said:

Let's give BS a bit of room... you do not see the list if you actually type HTTP://   You see it with the first slash, but its gone if you go on and type the second one.  Maybe not elegant, but it works....

Don't make up stuff. In Notion when you type http:// you can pause all you want after the first slash, it won't pop the menu.

13 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

In Evernote, at least for me, Esc "escapes" the editing function altogether and leaves you in some kind of limbo where no keyboard input does anything.

I now see that Notion is smart enough not to pop up the menu when you type http:// or https:// 
if EN wants to emulate this, they should make it ease to use (and offer disabling it for those who want their EN note taking to continue undisturbed as they are used to)

On 3/8/2024 at 12:58 PM, Dave-in-Decatur said:

I'm finding it actually way worse than just the prompt always appearing. Every time I type a slash, the menu pops up--and proceeds to narrow down options as I type letters! 

haven't tried it in EN, but in Notion if you hit esc the menu disappears and you keep just the slash.

I migrated to Notion not long ago. The / was pretty disconcerting in the beginning, but by now I got used to it and put it to good use.

3 hours ago, delawaredave said:

Good points.  After 10 years of EN and  3 months of Notion - for organizing information -  I don't know how anyone could pick EN over Notion. 

That's true, tho probably not for everyone. For me all the core features that I need are in the free version of Notion and so far I didn't even find the much maligned Notion search to be so bad. The biggest downside is the absence of offline capabilities, but for me this is only a redundancy issue, I haven't been using local EN for the last year or so anyway. 

3 hours ago, delawaredave said:

No need to reply with "Notion webclipper sucks" or "Notion mobile sucks" (it does).

Notion webclipper sucks 
But Save to Notion saves the day.

10 hours ago, jcnassoc said:

I've narrowed down the candidates to Notion, Obsidian and Joplin. 

Question: Have any of you played / used any of these three and do any of them support encrypting or otherwise protecting sensitive data. 

for Notion see here

4 hours ago, jpaz said:

What about tag importing?

Using Tags in Notion does not seem simple. As Ferol referred before. Looked up some solutions to try

https://matthiasfrank.de/global-tags-in-notion/

Yet another lame aspect of the Notion global search: can't search by tags (I don't consider this BS about creating a global tags database a "solution", more like pushing backend development work onto the user).

So a week after I downgraded my EN to the free plan, I got an offer to renew at 60% off. Several weeks before I started looking for EN alternatives I had emailed their customer support expressing my dissatisfaction with the price increase and intention to discontinue the paid plan. I never heard back, but had they replied with this offer I probably would have taken them up on it. Now it's too late, I've already committed to Notion.

On 2/3/2024 at 11:19 AM, 3v3rn0t3 said:

.... Consequently, I followed the suggestion from this thread and tried Notion, transfer was an absolute breeze and I am very happy with the product. 

 

As of today I am on the free plan in Evernote, my 4000+ notes and several dozen notebooks are now in Notion.

On 11/15/2023 at 4:06 AM, Linda Eskin said:

 

So far I've only tried to import one Notebook, as an experiment, from Evernote to Notion. It went well enough, but ...

• It looks like I'd need to repeat that process a couple-hundred times, because Notion can only handle importing in small chunks (AFAIK, so far).
• It stripped out almost all of my formatting, and I rely heavily on formatting to make my notes easy to scan and read. From what I can tell, I can't even manually reformat things - not that I'd want to reformat 10 years of notes.

i've recently imported a few dozen stacks and notebooks from EN into Notion. it took a while, because if you try to import too much the Notion importer doesn't finish the job. but in the end i was able to import all me 4000+ notes and everything looks good (some of the bullets in bullet lists appear as checkboxes after the import; i like it in recipes and to do lists :-----) for the rest i change it if i ever get to that note again)

2 hours ago, ferol said:

One tip - Blue links in Notion in chrome Browsers:
... grey is really bad

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/blue-notion/jffhjoedhmpmkoeilaeagfdelfaciebc

nice. and with Tailored Notion i also got the text and font to look like i want it.

thank you @ferol for improving and updating the EN vs Notion comparison list in your first post.
your "winner by color" is interesting (of course, my choices would be different).

one thing i want to mention: you can change the font size in Notion, but in a limited way (Small, Medium, Large)
however, you cannot change the font itself. i see this as a problem, since the default font color is not black but a dark gray which makes text look washed out compared to EN.

6 hours ago, ferol said:

Structure is no here... all in one folder and complicaded Names...

thanks for the demonstration, restoring from Notion backup seems like a solution for the desperate indeed.