Julian

On 2/18/2022 at 2:15 PM, WilliamL said:

I couldn’t disagree stronger! Who on earth wants an iPad to function like a giant iPhone? If you want iPhone - use the phone, I think it’s entirely reasonable that the larger screen estate is used to present more information. 
 

Im genuinely flabbergasted by this!. 

I agree with Aben. I wonder if some of the disagreements here are because maybe there are different understanding of what he wants. For instance you (WilliamL) say "I think it’s entirely reasonable that the larger screen estate is used to present more information" and yes, what you say is entirely reasonable and if I thought that Aben's suggestion meant presenting less information then I too would be flabbergasted but, as someone who shares his strong desire for more flexibility on widget sizes, I do not believe that is what he is saying.

As an example my biggest frustration when using the Evernote Home page on my 12.9" iPad pro vs accessing the Home page via the Windows 11 Evernote app is the Notes widget which is by far the most important widget for me and is the first one on my home page. On Windows the Evernote app expands the width of the Notes widget to width to fill the whole top row of my home page so that I can see at least the top 6 of my most recent notes without scrolling. On my 12.9" iPad pro however the Notes widget only uses about 30% of the width of the iPad screen so I can only see my two most recently used notes without having to scroll within the widget (and about half of my third most recently used note). If only there was the option on the iPad to customise a widget to use the full width of the screen then my notes widget would show me at least my last 6 most recently used notes and would be far more useful.

So for me it's not about somehow making the home screen on the iPad display less information, it's actually about making it able to display more information by allowing at least some of the widgets to show a decent amount of content in them instead of only a tiny bit of content. Ironically I would say that the was the Notes widget works on the iPad right now it actually is behaving as if it was on a small phone screen rather than taking advantage of being on a big tablet screen.

Ah, might this - https://evernote.com/blog/see-evernote-like-never-before-with-home/ - explain what to me was such an infuriating and perplexing removal of the hide-note-pane option that totally broke the way I used Evernote? I am still using the previous version of EN simply because of the loss of this option.

If this new Home dashboard can be configured such that the only widget on it is a list of all selected notes (via search, tags etc - or all notes if no selection criteria are in place) then that essentially reverts to the legacy setup I am running at the moment so long as whenever I click on a note in the notes widget it opens it in a new window leaving the EN main window still displaying the Home dashboard.  In fact this new Home dashboard is probably better than the simple hide-note-pane legacy option because it would give me the ability to have one widget at the very top with a few of my most used notes (e.g. I have a note called "*SCRATCHPAD*" if I want to very quickly jot down someone's number, essentially a virtual PostIt note) and then have my main notes list using the other 90% of the Home display. (I see that EN has explicitly created a "Scratchpad" widget so I would probably use that as a replacement for my "*SCRATCHPAD*" note depending on how the Home functionality transfers to the iPhone and iPad versions.)

If Home can be configured as I hope then that would resolve my concern and get me to switch from the legacy to the latest version. From reading that blog post I'm not sure if the Notes widget can actually display all or selected notes, they only talk about "recent" and "suggested", but if the direction of travel is enhancements to Home then I will certainly be trying out this new feature to see if it gets me close to, totally back to, or maybe even slightly beyond the legacy version in terms of what I consider a clean and efficient screen layout.

I do note however that the blog post says that "If you’re an Evernote Premium or Business customer, you can resize, reorder, or remove widgets to customize your Home" which I assume means non-premium users can't. I'm a premium user so that isn't a concern for me but as a community-minded person it would still feel very wrong to me that Evernote has worsened the user interface for non-premium users who use EN as I do and won't, as far as I can see from reading the blog post, have the possibility of configuring Home to reproduce the previous note-pane-hidden appearance so although I might have an escape route on this one I'm still left a bit perplexed as to why EN removed such a basic option.

I'm running Evernote on Windows 10 Pro for Workstations. Whichever of the three options I select for "View/Dark Mode" ("Use System Setting", "Dark Mode" or "Light Mode") the sidebar at the left is always white text on what appears to be a jet black background. Is this really how it is supposed to work? I would have thought that setting it to light mode would not still have used a jet-black side bar.

No, stacks are a single level. If you need a much more complicated hierarchical organizational scheme, we'd recommend using Tags, since you can nest them to any level and have up to 10,000 tags.

Thanks. I was just curious really.

When I first came to EN one of my big issues was some way to implement a proper multi-level hierarchy but I've come up with a new way of organising my data that works for me and removes my need for anything more than a single level tag space so I don't think that I'll even use the single level of stacking when it comes to Windows and iDevices.

As jna said though, the fact that "foobar" can't appear under both "foo" and "bar" makes it ugly to implement a proper tag hierarchy even though it is technically possible. The user is left having to disambiguate any tag names that they want to have appear in multiple places in the hierarchy, e.g. "foobar_foo" and "foobar_bar" and the more levels then the worse it can get, e.g. a tag of the form ___ which soon gets very ugly. Allowing the same tag name to appear in multiple places in the tag tree in the UI would be a big step forward. That still leaves people to make sure that, if they tag a note with "foobar", then they also remember to add either the "foo" or the "bar" tag (and any tags for levels in the hierarchy above that) to give the "foobar" tag its full path/context in the hierarchy but at least that's cleaner than forcing tags to be full pathnames as described above.

Luckily this isn't an issue for me anymore but I do feel some sympathy for others that still want a full hierarchy.

- Julian

Is it possible for a notebook stack to have another stack within it, i.e. is this a single level folder hierarchy or a multi-level structure?

- Julian