Alcafs

42 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Evernote,  like most developers,  doesn't (usually*) comment on whether or not a feature request is in development,  or - if it is - when it's likely to be released.  It's not a question of toxicity,  but you can guarantee that if the company said that (forinstance) "in-note links will be included with the next release" there will be a flood of responses demanding

• more details of exactly how this will be implemented
• more details of the level of subscription required - and why isn't it available to Free users?
• exact dates for the release
• why this is being prioritised above <insert favourite missing feature here>
• why this has taken so long

...plus objections to adding more 'clutter' to the UI and a flood of new suggestions about exactly how it should work.

And if they gave a date...

Because of another issue - server problems,  web outages,  whatever;  the next release may be delayed - queue the usual suspects flooding the forum with further demands on release date +1 - "You said this would be released..."

- So they'd rather keep their people actually working on developments instead of defending them.

* And yes,  I know they trailed v10 rather heavily,  but that was a special deal.  

 

 

 

I don't mean to suggest they give us a date, only that they say "we've seen this requested feature" and perhaps a "it will be considered fully at the appropriate time in the future, it is on the roadmap (unscheduled)".

Perhaps we've already had something like that on some of these feature requests, but those messages are few and far apart.

Just any recognition that they agree/conceed that it's a valid feature request that they would *like* to see - that would be enough for me.

On 10/10/2021 at 1:19 AM, PinkElephant said:

As I would like to see this feature emerge one day, a word of caution: Giving that currently EN treats the entire note as building block, outlining or setting in-note markers is a major change. I doubt we will see it any time soon.

Using a TOC note and linking notes together are at the moment the best way to organize larger bodies of text into an integration.

Good to know.

Do you happen to know if EN is likely to give us any lead time or heads up on this one? The lack of communication can be frustrating, not knowing what is coming ahead of time and whether particular requests are at all considered or ignored.

The forum is where community discussion is meant to take place and where we can vote for what users want, but EN staff don't get involved on the fourm (as far as I can tell, bar one or two individual posts) and - if I recall correctly, though I'm reluctant to even state this - I believe the forum is seen to be too "toxic" to be interacted with?

I've followed this post for some time and I would agree there is toxicity - but with posting rules and a moderator, those posts can be deleted as often as needed and a real conversation can take place. A lack of response from EN on top-voted community feature requests can only build frustration.

On 5/1/2021 at 2:21 PM, gazumped said:

While I agree it would be nice to have outlining,  I'm pretty sure that Evernote have never confirmed whether or when a feature under development might be released.

I'm necessarily even asking for a date, just confirmation that it's to come.

Place "collapsable notes/sub-notes" under a "to come" section (or mention it anywhere officially, really) and I'd be glad.

Could Product please commit to putting this on the roadmap at least?

This is a basic word-app function, which Evernote still doesn't have. It would be a significant Quality of Life improvement and I'd much rather that than anything else I've seen rolled out in the new EN over the past few months.

P.S. I'd also like if the UI could restore the snapping functionality of the older EN, pre-rework. Personally, I prefer function over form.

6 hours ago, Mike P said:

I find ctrl-shift-I really useful to get to the note info window and it works if the focus is on the note in the note list or if you are actually editing the note.

Thanks Mike

On 10/20/2020 at 3:20 PM, Alcafs said:

Have we been told why Sync has been axed?

I appreciate they're rebuilding EN, and interviews with Ian Small give me confidence that we're going to see much improvement over the coming months, but I would like to know the reasons behind it - they might convince me it's the better choice.

All I know is that I've been using it in the past to ensure my changes are saved, i.e. I may open/close a task within a few seconds at times, and to ensure the version I want is saved - I use the Sync button and see that it's done. Since doing this I've had fewer mishaps requiring me to dive into older versions.

Cheers,

So, I don't think my issue is any worse than it used to be regarding syncing.

In the last couple days I've had the issue of amending a note on an offline device, then not syncing before I make amendments on another device, plus an instance where I've got a note open in it's own window and then in the EN main window - not realising I've updated them individually. This caused an issue with versions - although I was prompting warned there's an issue it would have been most helpful if it highlighted the differences. That's a future request though.

It worked fine as it is - it just took me longer than usual to find the Note Info, as you can only get to it via the "..."

Cheers,

Have we been told why Sync has been axed?

I appreciate they're rebuilding EN, and interviews with Ian Small give me confidence that we're going to see much improvement over the coming months, but I would like to know the reasons behind it - they might convince me it's the better choice.

All I know is that I've been using it in the past to ensure my changes are saved, i.e. I may open/close a task within a few seconds at times, and to ensure the version I want is saved - I use the Sync button and see that it's done. Since doing this I've had fewer mishaps requiring me to dive into older versions.

Cheers,

The more info we can easily manage within Evernote, the more info we'll be able to get into Evernote and into the searchable database. Evernote's really missing a trick here.

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Upvoted. My to-do list is a mess. I would very much like to collapse tasks so that their sub-tasks/notes are hidden - then I could also re-order them with ease for the day or week, expanding them as necessary.

Other features are great (drag-and-drop re-ordering for a start) but I can't drag-drop points to any location, as if the line directly above where I'm dropping a point is more indented than the one I'm moving, it will inherit the same indent. Best left alone for now.

Admittedly I've not yet dived into the new beta release which includes one mention of "New to-do lists. Recognize at a glance which to-do list items need your attention." though at first glance it seems to be referring to tighter format options and more highlight-options.

If only Evernote would add collapsing/expanding to lists, it would demo much better to clients who want to organise tasks or projects within. I have 3 screens and still find Evernote desperately needs collapsible lists.