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Same here. Been using Evernote v.10 on Galaxy Note 9 and 10. If I'm lucky, I can get a stroke or two with my S Pen in Sketch before it stops responding and freezes; the finger works alright though. 

Definitely the problem is on Evernote's end of things, as I've tried drawing/writing with my S Pen in dozens of apps on both devices, and none whatsoever besides Evernote had this problem. 

Moreover, the three year old Android version 8.13.3 of Evernote (that I usually go back to after trying out the current v. 10-smth every once in a while and find it still rather slow, buggy and routinely unable to open/save/sync/render notes and images properly) actually can handle using the S Pen in Sketch just fine still. It's just v. 10 that's unable to do so.

28 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

This may have existed from the Samsung side.

Not from EN, the only pencil integration supported by EN is Penultimate. It exists only for iOS.

Framework based apps like EN v10 is notoriously difficult to access. This is no „replicate as it was“ shot.

The sync I'm describing works as mutual sharing of links, basically, not dissimilar to automated filters applied to emails. I've been able to replicate that sync on non-Samsung Android devices, and it worked fine, too—so it's not a "only because Samsung allowed something extra on their OS"-thing. At least on surface, it works as automated sharing of links/pictures, and should be not too difficult to replicate without too much effort as there's no need to "deeply stick fingers in each-other's code", so to speak.

And Evernote 10's inability to properly integrate S Pen's SDK and libraries, which have been opened and streamlined since 2018 and exist *specifically* for third-party developers to have native support for S Pen and all its features in their app, is, well... at this point in time, it's honestly inexcusable.

On 26.10.2023 at 16:42, PinkElephant said:

There is no such integration in EN, and I doubt it can be done, especially on mobile devices. 

On mobile every app is running inside of its own sandbox. Communication between sandboxes is impossible, or severely restricted. The only options are typically those provided by the OS - like the "Scribble" feature in iOS, converting handwriting into computer text on the fly.

Furthermore the data structure of EN does not support handwritten content at all. EN uses a variation of text based HTML code.

Conclusion: We will IMHO never see such an integration of handwriting. Watch out for alternatives, if handwriting is important for you.

There absolutely is such integration, and this particular one by Samsung and Evernote had been developed, maintained and working for years — and pretty well-known, actually.

In fact, it still very much does work, exactly the way I described. You just need to install the last available version of the old S Note app from Galaxy Store for Android and Evernote 8.13.2 or 8.13.1 on your device to check it for yourself. The sync sets up extremely easily from the S Note app, and runs smoothly and instantaneously, despite being 5+ years old by now (for reference, I tried it this very day on stock Samsung running Android 10 and it worked like a charm). 

By the way, the current versions of Samsung Notes (the app that's supplanted the actually still better S Note app of old) and One Note by Microsoft tried to somewhat replicate this solution. Theirs is a much less elegant and only half-baked attempt, but it shows that such sync absolutely can be done and automated still, with current apps.

Again, why not just replicate this exact solution, just as it had been already done a decade ago, by Evernote themselves, no less. Would absolutely be enough.

 

Honestly, the full replication of the sort of integration with the old SNote app on Android (Samsung) from ten years ago would've been enough for me. When you set up the sync, and then each handwritten note you create in SNote (and now it would've been Nebo) would sync into an automatically created SNote sub-notebook in Evernote, as a note containing a single (or a set of) jpg image(s), that would be ocr-searchable in Evernote, and update automatically when you edit said notes in the original app.

That's it. If you tapped a synced like this note in Evernote on a device with SNote installed, it would launch the SNote app and open the note in question there to continue editing. If you tried opening the synced handwritten note in a browser, or on a device without the SNote app installed, then it would open as an non-editable note in Evernote, containing automatically synced images (or a pdf-file) of everything within it. You just wouldn't have to share anything extra manually to Evernote, and redo it all every time you make an edit in Nebo. It should do it for you, is all. 

It's just... The bluepring for this is already *there*, and had been for a decade in Evernote by now. It's simple, it works, it's *enough*. It doesn't require hard-to-do integration, as well, just literally replicate the easiest solution you've done already, and watch your customer base grow exponentially with every stylus-loving user from every platform Nebo works on, please. It will also finally put an end to years of piling complaints of how abysmal Evernote Sketch/handwriting support is (especially on Samsung devices. It's honestly disgusting, the lack of palm rejection, or any development of the tool - and the lag on many a Samsung device or complete inability to natively work with an S Pen is so insufferable, it's just frustrating).

And Nebo would be interested in it too. They won't loose their customers, won't need to develop much, for any platform, and will be able to send everyone complaining that they *only* do handwriting and recognition well (while everything else functionality-wise in the native app is basically a joke) Evernote's way. It's literally the perfect symbiosis begging to happen.

On 01.12.2019 at 19:57, terablade2001 said:

I say that Evernote's (android at least) handwriting feature is garbage because its impossible to keep actual notes there, while i.e. you are watching a seminar. I mostly think this is due to low response time of that feature. This may intepreted as lag between writting and displaying; writting fast and seing the ink displayed with lag is confusing. To understand the difference you have to actually use stylus on Evernote's handwriting feature and on other apps.

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most important is to reduce lag between writting and displaying.

The visual lag of Evernote handwriting is atrocious. Even not comparing it to the responsiveness of Nebo, One Note or Samsung Notes, the "feel" of writing in Evernote with any stylus is an exercise in frustration. It's like the feature hasn't advances at all since its introduction in 2014.

Now that Samsung has severed the 'sync with Evernote' feature in their notes app, and other competitors have very fluid and natural-feeling handwriting features, there's really no excuse to keep it so rudimentary in Evernote.

I can live without OCR "on the fly", no support for dark mode/backgrounds, and a very limited color palette, but please do something with that input lag.