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  1. 21 hours ago, evername said:

    Hi.  I'm new here.  Please excuse my ignorance.  I have an iPad pro with an apple pencil.

    If I handwrite words in a new note with the "sketch" feature, will EN try to recognize my writing?  I know it works that way with post-its that I photograph with the EN camera.

    Or, do I need a separate app like Notability?

    If you want to handwrite text directly into Evernote, have you experimented with Apple's "scribble" Pencil features? How has that worked for you? 

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  2. On 7/25/2021 at 7:56 AM, PinkElephant said:

    Most apps doing the handwriting stuff use a license of the Nebo engine. I am not aware it is tuned to run on a server, every app I know using it does recognition on the device.

    The EN handwriting recognition is older, and I think it is proprietary from EN. But it doesn’t do text extraction.

    Scribble is already great (and they keep adding languages, initially I had to switch my system language to English to be able to activate it). With iOS 15 we get instant local text recognition in pictures - EN IMHO needs to do something to keep up. 

    Yes, the Nebo approach needs to record your ink strokes, since the order, direction, velocity, etc all factor into how Nebo decodes your handwriting. It's different than analyzing a static picture. But we are seeing other server-based approaches that do analyze a scan or picture. Google Lens does it, and now Apple started to do it (though in Apple's case it's on device?) 

    Many of these handwriting discussions here began before Apple introduced Scribble. Scribble is best — so far — with short bursts of text, not novel-writing, to choose an extreme example. So people who prefer their primary text input to be longhand — when entering lots of text, notes, creative writing, etc, are not happy yet. 

  3. 2 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

     Not that easy: The picture to text conversion of the handwriting apps happen on the device itself. This ability is build into the clients.

    The OCR capability of EN is build into the server software. And it is used to build a search index, not to extract the text. AFAIK It does not change the document itself, it writes information into a hidden part of the note.

    EN would have to implement a whole new set of capabilities into the clients. I doubt this will happen any time soon.

    My workaround is still to use GoodNotes 5 for my handwriting. In autumn with iOS 15 there will be this capability build into iOS - at last for newer devices, because it needs a lot of computing power.

    I didn't say it was easy. I said I wanted handwriting recognition in Evernote. 🙂  And since it happens in the cloud, it should be possible to implement. I'm curious — do you speak for Evernote, PinkElephant?  

  4. Since Evernote now wants to be everything to everyone 😉  I'd love it if they finally add this feature. Text extraction as OCR to editable text. Not just image search. It would be a killer feature. It could eliminate the need to buy a ReMarkable etc (because you could scan in anything with Scannable), and thus EN would be a great value proposition. It's a cloud-based feature. It's 2021, processing power is ever cheaper. Google can do this on your phone... 

     

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  5. Replying to keep this alive, and also because I also rely on the Nebo for handwriting. 

    I'd prefer if EN would deign to allow text extraction. Google does this now. EN is already recognizing text but not giving us direct access to it. But I digress. My current solution is to write in Nebo, then copy over. I'd prefer to be able to write on anything, including pen on paper, then take a Scannable and have EN give me the TEXT, not a searchable image. 

  6. For real handwriting recognition and "word processing" by handwriting, I use the Nebo app. Then the text can be imported. What I WOULD like is for Evernote to convert a scan of handwriting into ASCII/editable text. They are already recognizing your handwriting in scans. I don't see the problem in taking the next step and letting you pull that text into ascii form. (I'm trying to find other suggestions about this, and that's how I landed on this thread.)

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