Dr.Peril

Hmm, perhaps that's fair about the post deletions. This forum is... depressing.

I'll collect up some links. I had them in Evernote but... c'est la vie eh. Still, if I recall it's only been a few years since most of the executive level swapped out (or at least around)? As for security, yeah I'll do some Google-fu for ya but the ones that come to mind are the password breach in like 2010, the clear text error logs issue in... 2015?... the employees accessing notes thing last year... Not that any cloud solution is risk-free of course. Evernotes replies to security breaches have also been pretty tone deaf which doesn't inspire confidence. Still, they've managed the basics like 2Fa and end-to-end encryption.

I'll consider going back to the older version. Given how late to this frustration-party I am is probably a solid indication that I don't use EN enough anymore to justify paying for it anyway.

I almost wish they had a lite version. All the integrations with other apps and the device ubiquity, but just a basic version of the app: markdown, image/file attachments, folders, tags, the end... I miss that.

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I think part of it is that it seems more and more that Evernote is taking a similar direction to Dropbox you know? I'm sure there's a huge market space for workspace unification so integration with Office and Google Drive make sense but... they're still a 3rd party tool vying to take users away from the ecosystem's tool. I like dropbox fine myself but I'm not going to try to shoehorn it into my Exchange and O365 work environment, that's what OneDrive and SharePoint etc are for. Likewise, all the Office-esque features Evernote seems preoccupied with are ... ok ... but they're not going to take OneNote's user base unless they go all-in on cloning it, and it's still an uphill battle... Google environments maybe. Context for example, what is that except marketing? It's not like an algorithm is matching content to sources you want, it's sources that EN thinks are worth working with. That's not a feature, that's not informative, that's a revenue stream. The business back-end market just seems like a strange choice for EN to be so desperate to break into that they're willing to add, remove, add, strip down, rebuild, add, and remote ad infinitum features, UI elements, whatever. It's like the architecture team is made up of squirrels. Be a note app—wherever people use you if you do it really, really, well everything else will fall into place. It's literally what made them. I'm sure they're feeling some pressure from the digital disruption of so many competitors popping up all over but... tools like Bear don't do a fraction of what EN does and it's growing like bamboo because they focus on what they do well. It's like EN is scared they're not up to the competition so instead of polishing what they've got they're playing pin-the-tail-on-whatever-people-might-talk-about.

Genuinely.

It seems like it shouldn't be that difficult to sync text and meta data, but somehow EN continually makes a mess of their platform. I work in IT and the only other tools I see that are as buggy and disconnected from what users want are the ones whose business leaders don't actually use the product. The developers, I assume, do because they have to build on it but at the same time, if I were a developer at EN there's no way I would trust Evernote to retain development docs, code snippets, any of it.

I've been a member since May 2010, just checked. My subscription expires in October of this year. So far I've got 10 GB (99%) remaining this month and [my] monthly limit resets in 7 days. Previous months back to June are the same.

I used to love EN, it connected to everything, it was fast, and organization was fluid enough that building a personal workflow was easy. Then it became a case of acclimating to the workflow they force on you is ... easy-ish. Then it became feeding your data into their machine so they could recommend ***** from the NYTimes or whatever, with, of course, no way to turn the feature off. Now all my notes live on their servers without local copies? It's... not really mine anymore is it? If you have a fire, an angry admin, or just forget to pay the electric bill (which my history of reading EN news would suggest is very possible) all my information is just ... gone.

Evernote used to be a good note taking application. Then it wanted to be a good document storage solution/office application/team management tool/collaboration hub/whatever other buzz word some C-level desk-jockey felt benefited the SEO. And now, now it's uselessly slow, the note window has turned an empty text box into some psudo-object based segment thing. But of course, they won't just commit and make page layouts like OneNote or Notion, no, they're going to strip out text, replace it with blocks no one wants, and then make it proprietary.

Never mind years of running security scandals.

I realized today, while looking at the forms and my barren data consumption information that Evernote isn't a tool I trust to save data anymore. I valued it highly for all the integrations but do features you don't use because the platform is flawed really have value? Opening Evernote now is more dread than interest. I don't ask myself a question then go to EN to find the answer or information. I occasionally and reluctantly open EN hoping it hasn't randomly deleted that two or three year old note I made when I still trusted it to keep notes.

All ENs new features are worthless when they come at the cost of stability. I want to like EN. Desperately I want to like it again, but I just don't.

Sadly, I'm out. Going to use Apple Notes for a while until I get back in the habit of electronic notes because, looking at my desk, EN has pushed me to using Sticky Notes on my wall and a spiral binder because it's literally faster, more secure, and doesn't fill me frustration like EN does.

Anyway, I'm sure this will just get deleted because EN doesn't like to hear criticism, which is why r/evernote exists, but whatever. Maybe one day when EN isn't a revolving door for developers and executives it can finally decide what kind of application it wants to be then pull up it's big boy APIs and be a suitably stable solution.