Big Trev

On 1/31/2021 at 1:13 AM, Andy123 said:

What am I suppose to do? I don't know if there is no access history, then why I'm receiving this email?

In the first instance, I would change your password and make sure MFA is on.  

7 minutes ago, CharlesC said:

Why is there no comment from Evernote about what they have done?

They've commented a bit, this is the latest from the CEO: https://evernote.com/blog/state-of-the-product/

Can't say that it passes muster for me - seems a bit like a half apology, "I'm sorry that you feel like that".  I'm looking at alternatives.

Just now, Christophe Gevrey said:

I made the mistake to "upgrade" - can I go back to the previous working one?

Yes, the Legacy version is available here: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

12 hours ago, WilliamL said:

I truly don’t get the hysteria around the legacy app which exists in these forums. What is this mysterious bug people speak of that means you need support and won’t get it? It’s stable. It’s getting exhausting now cause here’s the thing - if you want to leave, that is your choice, no judgement, we are customers and have the right to use what we feel suits us best. 

I'm not seeing any hysteria.  For mine, I'm just pointing out what software support means when people think they'll be able to continue running Legacy indefinitely.

10 minutes ago, AlexKuc said:

If you will run into any issues or anything, you are on your own. You contact support and they will tell you legacy app is no longer supported. In that case, why should I pay £40 a year to fix bugs myself?

Yep, that's correct.  I'm not saying you should continue to pay, I'm working on an exit strategy myself.

(edit) - No worries.  You're in a similar boat to me - I didn't come onto these forums until v10.  Yeah, Legacy is a dead-end and I think is only useful to limp along while looking for alternatives.  

3 minutes ago, AlexKuc said:

IDoes anyone know how to downgrade without too much hassle?

Literally the comment above mate: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

2 hours ago, ELeatherwood said:

Is it possible not to use this latest version?

 

Yes, you can install what they're calling "Legacy" - https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

Note that it's effectively unsupported however: 

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There will be no future updates or bug fixes in older versions of Evernote, including Evernote Legacy. If you are having trouble with this app, our Support team may recommend that you update Evernote to the newest version.

1 hour ago, wphall said:

But still curious about the lack of Local Notebooks. I'm not entirely sure what this means for privacy. I took comfort knowing some notebooks were not online.

It's my understanding that the lack of local notebooks is being spruiked as a feature, not a bug.  As far as whether or not you're comfortable with having some information managed by Evernote as a SaaS platform rather than being able to control it yourself locally, that'll be something you'll need to decide for yourself based on your comfort level.  I haven't bothered with running any notebooks locally, and have everything synched to cloud, but your risk appetite will be different to mine.

You could also run "Legacy" (6.x), which I think still allows local notebooks.  But that's a bit of a dead end, and is not being supported into the future.  I'd suggest if you really want your data only held locally, you'll need to seek another solution than EN.

On 11/7/2020 at 8:55 AM, gh08809 said:

I just installed Legacy and it's syncing fine.

Find it here: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314

Yes, but if it stopps synchronising, you will not be supported.  If it's a bug in Legacy, it will not be fixed. If you engage support, they will tell you to "upgrade" to 10.  That's what unsupported means.

2 minutes ago, DTLow said:

The sync process is supported for Evernote Legacy   
that's all I need for the time being

Evernote Legacy is not supported.  Not for sync, not for anything.  If you report a problem, they will likely tell you to upgrade to v10.  I don't see why you fail to understand that, but that's your problem.

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

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There will be no future updates or bug fixes in older versions of Evernote, including Evernote Legacy. If you are having trouble with this app, our Support team may recommend that you update Evernote to the newest version.

2 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

But for the time being, running legacy is probably the „best alternative“ you can pick. This must not mean the best one can imagine, but the best among several less-than-attractive choices.

Yeah, I agree. For many (including me) Legacy is probably the "least worst" option at the moment!  Just trying to point out to people that while Legacy is there now, it's not supported, and the rug can be pulled out from under you at any time.   

5 hours ago, atomicben said:

What the heck! This new version doesn't have screenshot capabilities it seems? I'm very confused! Legacy version better remain available for a long time, given this new release.

Legacy is available, but unsupported with no bugfixes or updates.  If you report an issue with Legacy, you'll likely be told to "upgrade" to v10.

38 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

To which conclusion do you come ? Sort of you start on a journey, and now the gas is out ?

The „legacy“ clients work - at the moment I don’t need „bug fixes and further development“. I can use them, in a productive way, I know what I can do, and do it  efficiently. That’s all I need, in terms of current operations.

Yeah, that's my point, you don't need a bug fix, until you have a bug that's impacting you, then you need one.  That's the way software works.

My conclusion is to investigate migrating away.  I am not going to wait out while they finish the development of the platform.  Not saying that's what anyone should or shouldn't do - ultimately it's a risk assessment.  I personally think the risk of trusting that EN legacy will keep running happily until v10 has had the features added back in and is stable is too high.  

On 10/30/2020 at 8:51 PM, PinkElephant said:

There is nothing in v10 that I urgently need, so why force myself into something.

This is the issue though, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you need it to at least operate:

https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote

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Note: This article details the installation of an older version of Evernote. There will be no future updates or bug fixes in older versions of Evernote, including Evernote Legacy. If you are having trouble with this app, our Support team may recommend that you update Evernote to the newest version.

You are being forced into it - if you have a problem and engage support, my read is the "solution" will be to update to v10.  

(edit)

Found this below - their advice when you're waiting a week or two for support is ensure you're on the most up to date version (presumably, v10.x)

I wanted to let you know we are currently experiencing a higher than normal volume of requests. The average wait time for a response is currently 10-12+ days. 

Please know we're doing our best to get back to you as soon as possible. 

Here are some resources to help you in the meantime: 

1. Ensure you are on the most up-to-date version of Evernote on your device:
   
   For Mac or Windows go here. For iOS, check the available updates in the App Store

2 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Outlook tips should be discussed in the Outlook forums   
My use in Evernote   
- a single 'Filing Cabinet" notebook
- Receipts (scanned or email) are tagged with !Type-Receipt     
- Also tags for vendor and budget category    
- A !Taxyyyymmdd tag if appropriate   
- The note title is prefixed with the subject date

I'm not sure what you mean about Outlook?

Thanks for your response, but I'm trying to get an idea of how to do what I'm currently doing in Evernote in OneNote, since Evernote is now broken and I am looking at alternatives.

On 10/30/2020 at 1:37 AM, jowett2001 said:

Then I found that import folders were no longer supported, a feature that I have depended heavily on for years, especially for direct input from my scanner..   This is a showstopper.

Hello, it sounds like your use case may be similar to mine.  Much of what I put into Evernote is scanned receipts/documents from a Scansnap scanner.  How have you found that works with OneNote - are you able to give any tips?  For instance, at the moment I have a Filing and a Receipts folder for each financial year, and I just dump them in there and tag as needed (eg. if it may be something I can claim on tax it goes into Tax 2021 folder).  

On 8/16/2020 at 5:18 AM, PinkElephant said:

Yes, this is the most popular website for warnings of this type. I am a bit worried about it’s future. The founder tried to find investors, and I have read he failed. So maybe he is a little  short of money to buy new breaches from the dark net. 

Respectfully, you're not quite correct there.  He in the process of open sourcing the code base, and he's still actively running the site - I don't expect it to go anywhere.

Trying to sell the site was not about needing money, he was trying to make sure someone else was looking after it and he wasn't a single point dependency.  Hence, open sourcing it.  For more detail, read his blog here: https://www.troyhunt.com/im-open-sourcing-the-have-i-been-pwned-code-base/

23 minutes ago, Katz said:

But another alternative is do it automatically, that is discussed here.

Legend, thank you.  That looks like I'll need to do a little tinkering, but will probably do what I need.  Appreciate the tip!

2 hours ago, Katz said:

Yes, I've chosen Joplin as the closest alternative to Evernote. You can ask any questions if you need. Or you can use Joplin discussion.

Joplin is looking like a front runner for me.  Can I ask, do you use a document scanner?  A pretty major part of what I do with EN is scan in any mail and receipts and use as a virtual filing cabinet/records management system.  I'm trying to see if anyone has any feedback on this use case, although I might just have to have a play around on it and see how it goes.

On 10/27/2020 at 7:27 AM, PinkElephant said:

If you want to switch make sure you checked on your use cases. It is not „legacy“ EN you check against, it is the features of whatever you want to switch to. If you carefully read the threads here you will find that depending on what your use cases require, it is not that simple to find another solution that really covers it all.

Personally I found that for the time being, for me a combination of EN legacy and EN v10 iOS still serves my use cases best. If legacy would stop to work, I would have to reassess the situation. I hope that EN will roll out enough of the missing functions soon to make the app great again for me.

These are good points, and I agree with you.  However, depending on how much you rely on EN, I think trusting Legacy is fraught because they have indicated there will be no bug fixes or security updates - at any time a Windows patch or some other incompatibility could bork it, and you'll be effectively stuck.

I've got about 10 months to run on my sub, but I plan on being off onto something else well before then.  I think it's difficult to see how this could have been more poorly handled by EN, and even if they were to magically put all the missing features back into 10 and fix everything tomorrow (unlikely!), they've still lost my trust.  And for something like this, which handles so much of my day-to-day life, I need to be able to trust it.

There's a thread on Reddit as well which is attempting a similar exercise.  https://www.reddit.com/r/Evernote/comments/j87fb9/please_help_me_find_the_evernote_alternative/

I think it depends what you're using it for - I tend to use OneNote for note-taking (ie. study notes and similar), and also use it for meeting notes at work, and EN for basically records management - receipts, filing of letters and stuff, tax paperwork.    

An open source alternative is Joplin, which I'm going to have a look at: https://joplinapp.org/

v6.25 "Legacy" will keep me going while I explore what to migrate to now.  

Keen to get a response here also.  I've very quickly established that the new version is unusable for me, and installed the legacy version while it's either fixed, or I work out how to migrate to something else.

I'm afraid I'm in the same boat - even the most basic things I do (create notes, scan) have been altered in inexplicable ways to make them barely functional, or don't work at all.

I also had the thing hang on me when trying to create a simple text note.

I have gone back to the "legacy" (or what I would call the "working") version.  Will keep tabs on how we go, but given the current state of the application I think I'll be looking at what to migrate to since it'll probably be less effort than getting the new application to work properly for me.