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David Heimer

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  1. I switched to OneNote and it's working great for me. If outlining is really important to you, as it is to me, then the switch is worth it. I haven't found anything in Evernote that I couldn't get it OneNote. I feel bad posting this in the Evernote forum, but despite YEARS of us asking for this simple feature, Evernote failed to respond at all.
  2. Over the years in this forum several people have suggested 3rd party addins or front ends to Evernote to get some better level of outlning (some to promote their own product). I think that a note-taking, thought-recording tool requires full outlining functionality, and I think that should be built into Evernote. But, I've given up on them doing that. So I am in the process of switching to OneNote. (BTW I have no relationship with Microsoft, OneNote, etcetera.) OneNote has the full outlining functionality I need, full multi-platform access, and so far (I've been slowly switching for about 3 months) I haven't missed anything about Evernote. And a bonus is that Microsoft hasn't been spamming me with upgrade notices. hahahaha.
  3. An integrated outlining tool would be great, and would, IMO, make Evernote a complete product. I use Evernote all the time, and I think it's great. Sure, I could use 3rd party outliners, but it's not the same. I've tried; it's an incomplete solution.
  4. Per GrumpyMonkey's suggestion I followed the link in his/her signature block to the support link and logged the following support request. Outlining is an important tool that's missing in Evernote. I love Evernote, but the lack of a decent outlining tool in Evernote is a problem every day for me. I know that sounds like an overstatement, but it's not. I think in outlines, I organize myself in outlines, and I plan in outlines. The ability to create outlines, quickly move sections, indent, subordinate, reorder, collapse, expand, etcetera makes the tool tremendously effective and easy to use. Thanks for your consideration.
  5. Just checked out the release notes for Evernote 5. I'll save you the search -- no outlining! :-(
  6. Evernote staff read these forums, and they seem pretty well aware of the issues. You can contact Evernote staff directly via support (see link in my signature) or chat (Premium folks). I'll do that -- AGAIN -- any hints for getting results this time? I look at the enhancements to the latest version of Evernote, and I think they're nice, but not anything as significant or gap-filling as outlining.
  7. I'm not sure how to do this, but there must be some way to request that outlining tools be bumped up in the priority list. Anyone have a contact at Evernote?
  8. Thanks for the heads up -- I'll check out NoteSuite. Yeah, as much as I like EverNote they just don't understand outlining and why outlining is so important. You'd think that since all major document creation tools have good outlining tools that EverNote would see the market opportunity, but apparently they don't.
  9. @jefito I have no idea what defending Evernote's "right to make their own business decisions" has to do with outlining. Did one of the many people requesting basic outlining features say that Evernote couldn't make their own business decisions? Since you're an Evernote Evangelist, surely you would see the benefit of keeping this little part of the Evernote discussion forum strictly focused on the subject -- OUTLINING.
  10. I'm amazed by several items in this thread: 1. Like me, many people assumed Evernote would have standard outlining functionality. 2. Evernote DOESN'T have standard outlining functionality. 3. Despite a large number of Evernote users saying how much want this functionality, the Evernote people commenting don't seem to care, which is odd. Typically paying attention to what your users want is a good idea. A lot of people don't get the power of a full-function outliner. But for those of us that use it a lot, it's a great tool for collecting and then structuring your thoughts, developing relationships between items, and creating to do's, projects, or just for note taking. You can collapse levels, expand levels, move the items around, renumber and reorder at will. Typically they include all the different numbering styles and automatic indentation. A friend of mine says he "thinks in outlines" which makes sense to me. For him, having an outliner is indispensible. In fact, it's the only reason he doesn't use Evernote. I like Evernote, but I agree with all the other posts, that not having a true outliner is a major hole in Evernote. As soon as an Evernote competitor appears with a good outliner, I will switch. But I'm hoping the Evernote people will realize the power in outlining and give us what we want.
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